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Hi there! I am new to this website, and I have been reading alot of the threads and replies, and you moms are great!! (Aren't all moms though!) So, anyways, I have a question for all you out there. My boyfriend and I are planning to move to upstate Vermont, with my 5 and 7 year old. The land is owned by friends of ours, to whom we have been paying money to and eventually will have 30 acres or so deeded over to us. When finances are available. WE are planning on building an a small addition onto their house, which was jsut finished last fall. I want o do this, my only concerns, are there is no well dug yet. Plenty of water, we make water runs, but no running water. I think I could deal with this. There's no septic either. There is an outhouse, but it's a good 25 feet from the house. WE don't have much for money, although my boyfriend would plan on working with her husband, who owns his own siding company down here in MAssachusetts, and I plan on getting a job. But he want to move in this summer, and I don't know if I can commit to doing it at least without a toilet. Does anyone have any reassuring stories or thoughts, concerning this. I just can't see making them leave their familiar surroundings, friends, grandparents, and modern home, to living wih no electricity, toilet, running water, etc... as being fair? Am I just worrying too much? I know it will be beneficial in the long run, but is that too much?
 

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I grew up with an outhouse and I must say if find it relaxing to wander outside and use the little house. Night was fun to sit and look at the stars, day time to examine all the flowers outside the door.<br><br>
It would be a lot more work for all involved. Some will find that way of life enjoyable, some not.<br><br>
Try it for the summer and see how you all like it.
 

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Hmm...Thank you for your reply, I know when I listen to myself talk about my concerns I feel like I just worry too much! Cause, I know it would have to just work. But, ya know the summers are alot different in Vermont than the winters, which is what I am worries about. It gets really cold! And having to bundle them up every time they want to go to the bathroom, for 6 months, just seem slike alot of extra work. And I know it's going to be extra work. and I even think it would be different if they were "born" into this kind of living, but they been used to flushing toilets, and running water, you don't think that's too much to ask of them? AS well, as adjusting to a new school, and people?
 

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You get used to it, basically.<br><br>
It *is* a pain in the beginning. Yes, you have to put on all those warm clothes to go outside to pee, but you *do* get used to it.<br><br>
And, you'll find that you don't really need warm water as often as you once used it. You fill some pitchers with water near a sink with a drain that diverts the water from the house or into a graywater storage unit (like a rainbarrel), and you are fine.<br><br>
One little trick.... you can "store" water temporarily in a garden hose (if you can push it through the house)... The sun heats the water right there in the hose! Voila! Warm water! Only works when you have sun... wouldn't work so well in the freezing days of Winter, but it would be great the rest of the year. It is especially effective if you can snake the hose on your roof.<br><br>
Your kids are 5 and 7 so they will adjust after a few weeks and be okay. This undertaking would be really tough if they were younger (and you didn't have help).<br><br>
BTW, there are some cool technologies, if you are up for them.<br>
Wind-up/solar radios, wind-up flashlights, and shake flashlights (we love ours!):<br><a href="http://www.modernoutpost.com/gear/details/ee_shakelight.html" target="_blank">http://www.modernoutpost.com/gear/de...hakelight.html</a><br><a href="http://windupradio.com" target="_blank">http://windupradio.com</a><br><br>
I personally could not live without radio. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
And, one other tip: you only want to embark on this adventure if you are sure that you can partner with this guy. This kind of thing will make or break your relationship.<br><br>
Wait! I just re-read your post. I strongly recommend that you do not separate your children from their grandparents... at least not if they get along and enjoy seeing each other at least once every few weeks.<br><br>
-- Caitlin
 

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Thanks you guys! All I needed is for someone, other parents to tell me they will be fine! You must be a grandmom? THeir bond is really special, and I hat e to break it, but now they just have an excuse to come up to beautiful vermont! I really do appreciate it, I'll keep you posted. Thanks!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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You could also do the time-honored solution: the humble chamber pot. Hey, it worked for the pioneers.
 

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That's what I would do in the winter...I'd findit very hard to get out of a warm cozy bed and go out into the freezing snowy outside to pee...I'd end up peeing down my leg on the way to the out house! Especially when pregnant! yikes!
 

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I wholeheartedly agree with this suggestion. Try it over the summer when it's warm, and the cold and possibly too much rain isn't a big issue.<br><br>
It also seems like your friends and incredibly generous and supportive of you. Perhaps they'll accommodate you with morning and evening usage of their bathroom facilities.<br><br>
They rest of the time it will just feel like camping - again try camping and if you <i>hate</i> it, reconsider. Also check what it may cost to rent a toilet like they have on construction sites. It may be worth it until the plumming goes in.
 

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Raemon, FWIW I'm in SE VT. You may want to look into a sawdust toilet (and/or composting toilet, though it may be too $$$$).<br><br>
I think it sounds great, and if you can "try" it out for a summer and fall...then take a break for the winter and decide if it's really right for you, that would probably work well. I agree, VT can get bitter cold for weeks in the winter. We had a particularly mild winter this year, but it is not always so.<br><br>
I think your kids are at a good age for this. Me, I don't want to wait too long - I think they're probably really adaptable until they hit the preteen years and then it's probably much harder to get cooperation and a sense of adventure from them (unless you get lucky).
 
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