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Yes, summer is my favorite season...


Whew. Making a whole new spot for us is HARD labor.

Speaking of which, I'm on the verge of another labor and I can't believe no one has shared their labor stories yet. So, spill it! If you've had more than one baby, was the second birth easier? (Please, please say YES! :LOL)

Julie and Renee are mean making the old lady have her second child first...


Or, post about whatever. I don't care. Just don't leave me prattling alone out here.


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Yes, summer is my favorite season...


Whew. Making a whole new spot for us is HARD labor.

Speaking of which, I'm on the verge of another labor and I can't believe no one has shared their labor stories yet. So, spill it! If you've had more than one baby, was the second birth easier? (Please, please say YES! :LOL)

Julie and Renee are mean making the old lady have her second child first...


Or, post about whatever. I don't care. Just don't leave me prattling alone out here.


Jen
My first and second labor were about the same in length, but Shiloh was face up and took an hour of pushing, Cassidy was face down with 20 min of pushing. Peyton's labor was HORRIBLE and traumatic, so I won't go there. Avianna, however, was my EASIEST labor and EASIEST delivery. Labor was who-knows-how-long, I stayed home 'til the last minute, not really keeping track. Got to the hospital just after 8pm, and delivered (hate that word) just after 9pm. One minute of pushing, ha!


What do you want out of this? Epidural? Stadol? Natural? I can give tips for them all, 'cause I've been there, done that with them all, lol.
 

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Hi Kris!

I am going to try to go without pain meds this time around. This OB thinks we can do that although she and DH have reserved the right to suggest help.

Pauline's was an "atypical labor." My water broke at 6:30 in the morning of the 5th but I didn't have any contractions until around 1:00 a.m. on the 6th. DH is pretty antibiotic unfriendly and I didn't want Pitocin particularly so I spent that entire day running around, going out to lunch and cleaning the zoo so I could stay at the hospital guilt free.

I had some back pain but it was so minimal I couldn't understand what all those other women had been whining about when it comes to labor. I thought you all were weak. :LOL

Then at 1:00, I had a contraction that didn't stop. There were no peaks, no valleys, I just had a horrible cramp that never stopped. I remember lying in DH's arms one minute rhapsodizing about how our lives were about to change and screaming in agony and vomitting all over the next. Poor DH stood there and said, "It will pass and you'll get a break!" Well, no.

And to top it all off, since I didn't sleep at all that day, by the time labor hit I was exhausted.

We got to Metro, they gave me some Demerol at DH's insistence until the epidural could get hooked up because the monitor showed the contractions weren't peaking and falling. I vaguely remember interns and nurses watching the screen and saying, "Why aren't they falling?" and thinking, "Yeah! Why the
: aren't they falling?!? You all LIED!!!:"

So I ended up passing in and out and not really being able to push 5 hours later. The epidural took the edge off but didn't really alleviate the pain much.

My blood pressure was all over the place. I remember them placing Pauline on my chest and being ticked off that this wet red thing was on me. I passed out when she was actually born, I was unconscious when she nursed for the first time. Just generally, it wasn't a whole lot of fun from 1:00 a.m. on.

My OB came in that afternoon and apologized for not doing a Csection.


I wanted a drama free birth. Everyone knew that and tried like crazy to give me that but it didn't work so well for me.

Long story short, I am going to strive for a drug free birth but I'm realistic enough to know that it might not be possible for me. I felt myself saying, "Goodbye world. I'm outta here!" a couple of times and I seriously couldn't have cared less about whether Pauline or I survived at that time. I wanted eveyone to leave the room and leave me and my baby alone to DIE.

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Oh, Jen.....let's just hope that doesn't happen again!

Miss Maiya is sick, no, not from Pauline, but from our cousin. 102 temp. Yay. So basically Tom gets to run around and have fun and I am stuck here.... I am not feeling particularly motherly right now...
: Give me strength.

We went to the beach today...that was fun.

Well, Maiya needs me. And I need to stop feeling so bitter....

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My second labor was longer Jen, but I was GBStrep+ with Aubs nad had to have the meds so they slowed my labor. But once I was dilated to 10, she was 4 pushes - 2 sets of 2 - and Pietey was 45 minutes of pushing. So quicker in that regard. I should add she was smaller tho, 7 lbs 9 oz compared to him at 9 lbs 3 oz :p You will do just great! A drug free birth would be awesome, way to be realistic and just do what you feel you need, too. I had walking epidurals with both kids and not an issue at all. I had had a spinal tap in 2000 and that was a ton worse. Never had a headache or any issues with my epis, and Butterworth is a great place IMO to deliver for mamas that decide a hospital is for them. You're deliverying there right?

I can't wait to hear you had your little man. I am super bummed I haven't seen you since well before you were showing tho


Renee, so sorry to hear Maiya is sick! Poor kid. Makes for a hard time for mama too.

I'm doing ok. Have my 28 week appt on Friday! yeha! I am in my third trimester!!!
 

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Since you're wanting a drug free birth, I'll tell you about Avi first (then maybe I'll talk about Peytons, lol):

I'm 8 days overdue, yay. Calm about it though. Completely content to let her remain inside as long as she needed to, just irritated with all of the phone calls from family and friends saying, "Is the baby here yet?!?!?!" Ugh.

The night of the 26th I had a few contractions that were noticibly different than the others I'd been having. For a few weeks I've had hours worth of contractions at a time, which caused no progress or real pain, just annoyance. But this was felt from the bottom of my uterus instead of the top. I decided to just go to bed and get some sleep, and if anything was going to happen it would wake me up. No need to lose rest waiting on what only MIGHT be.

Next morning Dan gets home at 6:30am and gets Shiloh ready and off to school (gott love third shift!) and then goes to bed. I wake up around 8am with Cassidy and Peyton, and at first felt nothing. But soon after those low pains started again.

I got the two girls breakfast and got Cassidy ready for school. I had to get Peyton ready also because, since I was overdue, I was scheduled for a non-stress-test that afternoon. So the morning was pretty typical, just add intermittant pains. (Not terrible pains either.)

We get Cassidy to school, and in the car on the way there I find myself beginning to vocalize a bit. Interesting. We got there, the pains are roughly every 5-10 minutes apart by then, but I'm not concerned. We have the non-stress-test immediately after dropping her off, so we'll see what's going on there.

Well, ta-da, Avi, the stinker, stops doing anything during the non-stress-test. That's the *only time all day I had no contractions. Grrrr. Immediately in the parking lot afterward, they kicked back up. The show off.

So we go home for a while, and I'm still contracting. They're getting a little more painful, but nothing I couldn't just groan through. Around 3pm we went and picked Shiloh up from school (I was just now STARTING to admit I was in labor, lol) and then went home. Around 3:45 I called Melissa, our doula, and asked her to meet us at the house around 5pm. So at 4pm we left to go pick up Cassidy. When we got home, Melissa was showing up.

She began to time my contractions for me, and squeeze my hips during contractions (I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS! LOL!). I was leaned over the arm of the couch with my knees ON the couch, in a lazy "doggy style" position, lol. I vocalized really well and it helped.

I sat on the birthing ball, ate chinese food, groaned and made phone calls for a while while we let the pain grow steadily and gently.

At one point I went to the bathroom and noticed I'd lost my mucous plug. I began to cheer in the bathroom! Melissa called in asking if it was my plug, I said yes, and she cheered too! LOL!


We continued to hip-squeeze and vocalize at home until around 7:30pm when I told Melissa I thought it was time to head to the hospital. So Dan packed up the kids and the car (my sister was there with us to help with the kids) and left.

We got there just after 8pm. We had to go through the ER and got asked the usual questions. When the lady asked if my water broke, I pointed to Shiloh and said, "No, she's got it." The nurse didn't break a smile. Guess she had no sense of humor. (Shiloh was holding my water bottle, heh.)

So they wheel me to labor and delivery, stopping every now and again to let me contract, lol. We had called Brenda, our MW, before we left so she could meet us there. They bypassed triage for me and brought me straight to a labor room. Brenda was already there. Bless that woman!

As planned I was only hooked to the monitor for 5 minutes and then let alone to do my thing. I stripped and tried the bath, but hated it. I went in the shower, letting the water hit my lower back while I rocked back and forth, vocalizing (read: HOWLING, lol). At one point the lab came in for bloodwork, and Dan told me. I told them they weren't getting any blood unless they came IN the shower to get it, 'cause I wasn't coming OUT! And they did, LOL!

After a while of that, I felt I had to get out. When I had gotten to the hospital I was 6cm and 100% effaced. When I got out of the shower I was 8cm. This is when it started to get unbearable. Transition. Rah. However once you hit transition, it doesn't get any worse.

At one point I think I asked Brenda to either give me ether, or hit me upside the head with a blunt object, lol. Melissa was a WONDERFUL help in dealing with one contraction at a time and not worrying about the next.

Around 10cm my water broke. YAY! And a few minutes after that I decided to do an experimental push (one of those pushes that every mom does... trying to hold her butt closed while trying to push a kid from her vagina... never works! LOL). Nothing. So after the next contraction I decided to try again, relaxing my entire body as I did. Well, ha! I threw my leg to the side and said, "It's burning!" Brenda told Dan to get ready to catch! Poor Dan thought he had time to wash his hands. Nope! By the time he had the water running her head was out. He rushed over and helped guide the rest of her body out, but Brenda did reach in to take the cord from around her neck (wasn't serious at all).

The actual birh was roughly a minute, and one push. Total labor? Not really sure. Maybe 12-13 hours, but I was staying with my regular routine through so much of it that I didn't really notice.

No tears, no episiotomy, no nothing. Her cord was left intact until it finished pulsing, and I've NEVER seen a baby pink up so quickly! We bucketed the placenta and Dan took it home with him that night. We cuddled for the first hour, skin to skin, nursing gently.

Besides the fact it was a hospital birth, it was everything I've always wanted. I got no meds, no intervention which, at the time, I was thinking I was NUTS... but now I'm so thrilled I could experience it. It was so fulfilling.

Maybe later today I'll write about Peytons.
 

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Thanks for the new thread, Jen! Kris, I e-mailed a copy of the petition to rep Sak's office because his aide said that he's interested in new legislation and is collecting as much info as possible
. I also gave them the link to LLL's site on enacting new legislation and forwarded a study of the reasons why so many women stop nursing after three months. Low milk supply (percieved?) is number one. . . Nursing on demand would fix that!!!!!

Oh, nice letter!

I only have one baby but the delivery went great. I did it at St. Mary's. I told them to have the epi ready but don't offer it to me - I have no will power when drugs are offered (tobacco, caffeine, and once upon a time, the m word). The only things I didn't like about my labor was the fetal monitor that didn't let me move as much as I'd have liked, and I started throwing up after every contraction once things stopped at the other end (I didn't think I was in labor - I thought it was the stomache flu until I realized that things were happening at regular intervals.) They gave me phenergan to stop me from throwing up so I (we) didn't get dehydrated. That was the only drug I needed. It was so much easier once I stopped puking. I kept waiting for it hurt more but it never got too bad. When it was time to push, the phenergan had made me drowsy and I kept refusing because I was too tired so the nurse told me to think of pushing a car out of a rut in the snow... you have to push and push again to rock it out. Otherwise you don't get anywhere. So I buckled down and got to work. She was out of there in less than an hour of pushing. I didn't really know what to do with her when they put her on my belly. I was a wreck the first time I was left alone with her - then the nurse said I could take her into my bed to sleep and after that..


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Thanks for the new thread, Jen! Kris, I e-mailed a copy of the petition to rep Sak's office because his aide said that he's interested in new legislation and is collecting as much info as possible
. I also gave them the link to LLL's site on enacting new legislation and forwarded a study of the reasons why so many women stop nursing after three months. Low milk supply (percieved?) is number one. . . Nursing on demand would fix that!!!!!

Oh, nice letter!

AWESOME Julie! Let me know if you need any more info, and please feel free to pass on my information to anyone who wants it.

And thanks.
I got a call from the press yesterday on revising it. Too many words, lol. Get this!!!

She told me that the part "To the woman who said "Modesty or Jail..." was a personal attack, and they usually don't allow that.

BUT!

Since someone slipped and let that woman use my name specifically, they'll leave it in for me.
 

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Good morning!

We're waiting for P to get up so we can run a few more errands.

Julie, it is seriously a good thing you are so sweet or I'd have to bonk you over the head for that labor story. :LOL

Is Maiya better now, Renee? That's no fun for both of you!

I'm GBS+ this time around too, Danielle. So there won't be any relaxing around the home like last time for us unfortunately. At least DH won't battle any other doctors about antibiotic resistance while I'm contracting though. Yes, we'll be at Butterworth and I told my OB we are going home AMA if I don't have my own potty and shower in the room. She laughed.

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Hello everyone,

I thought that I would share my second child birth story.


My son Joseph decided to cause him momma problems that day and stay in for a long day of hell.

I was brought into the hospital about 7:30am and was induced about 9:00am with pitocin. I had Gestational Diabetes with him so they thought that he might be to big so they induced.


I thought that with my second child it would go quicker but he ended up going longer. I had back labor with him and back labor is unproductive when dilating! I wasn't going to go with the epidural this time because it didn't help any with my daughter. I ended up getting it anyway when they told me that I was at 6-7 cm's when I was 10 hours into it.

Because I am heavy it took the epi guy a long time to get the epidural in. While trying he was hitting a nerve that went to my right hip (that was horrible).
They didn't hook me up to the drip because I got to much with my daughter so they just did a shot in the tube. It ended up dilating me within a half hour
but it wore off and I felt everything.
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The birth process was great!!
Other than feeling everything...
I pushed him out in 11 minutes which is just about half the time it took me to get my daughter into this world (20 minutes).
Three pushes later he was here...Corrina is took 11 pushes. So my delivery was better with my son but the labor process was longer....6 minutes shy of 12 hours...with Corrina it was 11 hours and 2 minutes. I also didn't have any tearing with Joey
but did a little with Corrina.


I think that it was a little more difficult because of him facing up and causing back labor but the delivery was easier!!!


Good luck Jennifer!!! I'm sure that everything will be great!!!

Has anyone checked out that lactivist site yet???
 

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Sandy, I liked the lactivist site. I sent it to Micheal Sak (Lol, I think I'm just spamming the guy at this point. Maybe I should back off!)

Back labor sounds yucky.

What a great letter, Kris. They still haven't printed my friend, Liz' letter. She had to rewrite it because it was too long. Speaking of length, did you see the other letter on nip at that same link? It's one sentence.
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Maybe I should get to writing. My parents are collecting the news for me and they'd get a kick out of finding my name in there.

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Hey Julie thanks for checking that site out!! I thought the video was great!!


Back labor was awful!!!
I hope that Jennifer doesn't go through that!!! Or anyone elso for that matter....


I plan on writing the press too....I just have to find the time...I don't have a lot of that and seem to find other ways to fill the time I do have...OH WELL
 

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Sandy, I liked the lactivist site. I sent it to Micheal Sak (Lol, I think I'm just spamming the guy at this point. Maybe I should back off!)

Back labor sounds yucky.

What a great letter, Kris. They still haven't printed my friend, Liz' letter. She had to rewrite it because it was too long. Speaking of length, did you see the other letter on nip at that same link? It's one sentence.
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Maybe I should get to writing. My parents are collecting the news for me and they'd get a kick out of finding my name in there.

Julie
SOMEONE PLEASE write to the press at [email protected] and tell them that humans are the ONLY species to regularly and voluntarily drink the breastmilk of another species: the bovine. That carton of half-and-half or that gallon of milk in the fridge is indeed the lactation of a cow, and a substance meant to sustain an infant cow. I tried, but they only printed my first letter, lol.

And I had to redo it a FEW times to get it in the limit. The lady let me slide by a few, though.
 

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Oh I read your post after sending my letter, Kris. Mine's probably too long as it is. I wrote
1. in response to the whole intimate and private crap - that if it really were that kind of intimacy I would feel icky doing it to my baby girl (not in those words),
2. the fact that seeing women nip made breastfeeding easier for me and things would have been even better if I had had more exposure (no pun intended) to it,
3. and that legislation should be the next step...
but I was much too wordy.

Jenn said I should get a hold of the women that wrote to the editor... I'd feel funny looking them up and calling them. Not sure what I'd say.

Hey Melissa, you're looking for a way to help. Want to do this???
I can give you all the papers my parents saved up for me and you can look up the names at the end of the positive letters in the white pages and call them up and ask if they want to be on our little chain of communication.. get their e-mail or call whenever there's important news on the Julie's Extra's list. Also tell them about the Nurse-Out. If not, that's OK I don't blame you!!!

Julie

PS, I need to get my petition filled out and back to Kris. I really want Sak to get the compiled signatures soon because I have an idea for the... extra's and mdc and spectrum and beyond?... network's next step if things start to get stagnant and it involves being a very squeeky wheel for him.
I'll tell ya later.
 

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Anyone that has a petition, PM me for my address so we can begin to collect signatures. Even if the amount of signatures we get isn't phenomonal yet, at least we have the Media coverage to back us up, and apparently Julie has a diabolical scheme.
 
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