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I tested positive with my DD. I'm wondering if there is any way around the antibiotics and what the risks are. Can anyone help me out here?
 

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waiting to see answers, I've never tested positive but my angels official cause of death was a group B infection so I do antibiotics. If nothing else it means getting an IV, so if you are planning an intervention free birth, there is an automatic intervention. I'm not sure I could convince myself to skip it, but I'd still like to hear if its possible.
 

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I was also positive with my DS, and had a very uncomfortable IV. My midwife said this time I can the antibiotics without an IV pole (it's an IV dose administered every couple hours or something) or I can use natural remedies that they will provide.
 

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I'm interested to hear too. I tested positive the last 2 times. The last time the nurse was afraid I was going to deliver too quickly to get a full dose so she cranked the penicillin into my arm...it felt like my arm was on fire and hurt way more than the contractions I was having.<br><br>
I'd love to skip it, but like avivaelona said I don't think I would. i wouldn't want to chance it.<br><br>
I have been wondering if I do go super fast this next time what happens if a person is pos and doesn't have time for antibiotics?<br><br><b>namistenicole</b> Do you know what the natural remedies are?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My midwife said this time I can the antibiotics without an IV pole (it's an IV dose administered every couple hours or something)</div>
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That's intriguing.<br><br>
I was wondering, why do they do the IV drip anyway, instead of giving the baby antibiotics after it's born? (Probably because IVs have been "standard" for a while, is my guess) Is there a medical reason?
 

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I had a horrible experience with the IV last time just because I'm in the middle of contractions and got stuck 4 times before they got a vein that didn't blow. There were bruises forever.<br><br>
I just didn't know if it'd be safe to skip because I'd like to avoid all of that crap they give the baby after delivery as well. I'd rather I get the antibiotics than the baby. (I know I'll pass it on, but somehow it works better in my mind that way?) I'd also like to be at home for as long as possible. And I need 2 doses administered 2 hours apart before delivery.<br><br>
I had 2 doses 2 hours apart that lasted I want to say 30minutes? I was aloud to go in the tub and walk around even with the IV pole so it wasn't too bad.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm interested to hear too. I tested positive the last 2 times. The last time the nurse was afraid I was going to deliver too quickly to get a full dose so she cranked the penicillin into my arm...it felt like my arm was on fire and hurt way more than the contractions I was having.<br><br>
I'd love to skip it, but like avivaelona said I don't think I would. i wouldn't want to chance it.<br><br>
I have been wondering if I do go super fast this next time what happens if a person is pos and doesn't have time for antibiotics?<br><br><b>namistenicole</b> Do you know what the natural remedies are?</div>
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I don't know exactly. I think it's some super-hippie topical paste made up by the our in-house naturopath/midwife. My memory is hazy on this because it's been a couple months since I asked, but I think she said I would apply it to my lady parts for a week or so around my due date.<br><br>
I'll have to do more research about the consequences of strep B vs. the antibiotic before I decide what route to take. I do know I'd like to avoid the antibiotic if at all possible because my DS had chronic reflux and digestive issues until age 3, and I know antibiotics can play a part in this.
 

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Yeah ditto here on the reflux and issues Nicole. Maybe someone can ask on the birth board where the midwives lurk and report back <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I would like to know what my options are. The baby had the antibiotics once already when they put in my cerclage, it would be nice if we had an alternative to doing it again.<br><br>
Since I don't test positive I wonder what the actual risks are too.
 

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I was positive but didn't get results back until after the delivery. This time my mw wants to start intensive probiotics at about 30 weeks and then if I test positive at 34 weeks, another round. 90% of the time that takes care of it. When I'm less sick I'm going to start hammering the yogurt and other live culture stuff.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was positive but didn't get results back until after the delivery. This time my mw wants to start intensive probiotics at about 30 weeks and then if I test positive at 34 weeks, another round. 90% of the time that takes care of it. When I'm less sick I'm going to start hammering the yogurt and other live culture stuff.</div>
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That's a great idea.
 

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I just found this older <a href="http://www.mothering.com/articles/pregnancy_birth/birth_preparation/group-b.html" target="_blank">article</a> on Mothering.com<br><br>
Check out the sidebar articles on Herbal Remedies and Probiotic diets. It sounds like prevention may be the best option.
 

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I agree that prevention is the better option to waiting it out. I tested for a bacterium that causes PROM and was negative for that, but just found that I'm GBS+. My midwife told me that I should start right away with taking either a probiotic or acidophilus daily so that the beneficial bacteria can out compete the GBS. I'm so happy that I know now at 13 weeks that this is what's going on instead of at 36 weeks where if in hospital or birth center your only option is antibiotics. Antibiotics are notorious for causing thrush and just not a good thing. My friend told me that her midwife would have used hibacleanse (sp) every two hours during labor instead of antibiotics for that reason and that it is very successful. My friend is also a nurse.<br><br>
I'm just taking a probiotic every day and also eating more yogurt to perhaps help the situation. All the best to you OP with this.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm just taking a probiotic every day and also eating more yogurt to perhaps help the situation. All the best to you OP with this.</div>
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Same here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
My "Loveable Hippie Dr." (seriously, he's the greatest) told me that he thinks plenty of probiotics will clear it all up before the end of the pregnancy. But if I still test positive toward the end, then I suppose he'll administer the antibiotics - hope it doesn't come to that!
 

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Sigh all of the information out there seems to say that this is for if you test positive but have never had a child with GBS issues, and helps you not test positive. No info on if you test Negative but have had issues with GBS in the past. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I guess I'm probably stuck.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was positive but didn't get results back until after the delivery. This time my mw wants to start intensive probiotics at about 30 weeks and then if I test positive at 34 weeks, another round. 90% of the time that takes care of it. When I'm less sick I'm going to start hammering the yogurt and other live culture stuff.</div>
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I tested positive 2x so far too. My midwife suggest this and apple cider vinager mixed with water this time. Both started toward the end. I have yet to labor long enough to get the two full doses. Last time I delivered I only had an IV port. The gave me the ABX then unhooked everything and I was free to go. They just left hte port for the next dose that never came LOL. I have also read somewhere that the longer your bag of waters stays intact the less chance the baby has of coming in contact with the infection...
 

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I was positive for both prior babies, and didn't receive the IV (deliver too quickly) so they test/culture the baby and make me stay longer. I sort of tried to eliminate it last time with probiotics, garlic, etc. But will REALLY be trying this time, as I'm getting tired of my poor little babies having to be stuck all those times just b/c I deliver so quickly! AND - it sucks b/c they've both been perfectly fine (I mean - good that they are fine - but bad that the hospital protocols put them through all that crap anyway).<br><br>
I wish it were like in the UK - where they just watch you for fever during delivery...
 

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I tested positive with DD and barely got the antibiotics in. She had reflux problems and food allergies! (Although she was preterm and IUGR.)<br><br>
A bunch of you have mentioned being on intensive probiotics. What kind? What dosage?
 

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My mw and doctor mentioned using probiotics and raw garlic suppositories during those last few weeks. They also said that some recommendations are that you have antibiotics in labor if you've had a previous baby with GBS, even if you're not positive for it during the current pregnancy.<br><br>
My younger son was in the NICU starting at 12 hours after his birth for GBS, and I did have the abx in labor, 2 or 3 times. I've requested his records and am waiting to find out if he really had it though. They treat the gbs (or symptoms) aggressively because it can be fatal to babies in a short amount of time. I was told that my baby had a high white blood cell count and one other count in his blood was high as well (I can't remember what that was, something with initials. Maybe I'll dig out my journal from back then and see if I wrote it down.) He was in the NICU for 6 days, had to have a spinal tap, get a central line IV, and then got 2 more doses of abx after we took him home attached to a pump. He didn't really seem to be sick though, and that's why I'm not sure if he really was. But then, they might have stopped his abx after his culture came back if he was negative (they put him in NICU based on the symptoms I mentioned above, because the disease can be bad in the short amount of time it takes to culture to see if they have it). Hoping my records come soon.
 

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I've tested GPB+ with both my pregnancies and I took probiotics the entire pregnancies. So I don't really believe it helps, it does keep yeast infections away though. With my second birth I was only in the hosptail an hour before I gave birth so I only got one dose of antibiotics but DS came out fine. With DD I had 4 doses and ended up with a horrible case of thrush that didn't go away from three months.
 

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Well with a hospital birth I don't think there is much getting around it. You can flat out decline but you may have issues. I don't take the GBS test anymore since I've found out it's not a reliable test. I did test positive with my third child but when I went into labor the CNM forgot to give me the antibiotics and all was fine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
There is natural remedies. You can do a garlic tampon and you can also use hepicleanse and make a douche from that and use it before your water has broken. That's proven highly effective and that was my plan last time and will be again this go round.<br><br><a href="http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/gbs.html" target="_blank">http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/gbs.html</a><br><br><a href="http://members.tripod.com/groupbstrep-ivil/id14.html" target="_blank">http://members.tripod.com/groupbstrep-ivil/id14.html</a>
 
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