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DS has a graco safe seat stage 1. The weight limit is 30lbs and the height is 32”. DS is 22lbs and 29” and the straps are incredibly tight. We have the buckles in the top slot and it’s as loose as it can go. It’s really digging into his shoulders. So should we get a new seat? I don’t know how this can last another 3” of height grown.<br><br>
Also, what is the typical growth rate of a one year old? Should I expect an inch a month still? He might be outgrown in 2 or 3 months.<br><br>
I'm not sure where to go from here because we have to switch the car seat from our car to the babysitters 3 times a week. I really like the bucket seat since she has a base and can keep it in her car all the time. Are the convertible seats easy to switch cars?<br><br>
Thoughts on this?
 

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Turn the seat over and look where the straps hook onto the metal splitter plate. you should see that each strap has two sets of loops, one tighter and one looser. That should give you the extra strap length you need.
 

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I had the same issues with the Safe Seat and moved to a convertible when dd was close to a year. I have a Britax Boulevard and installation really depends on the cars. My car is a 2000 Subaru Outback with no LATCH and it is a pita to install. In the vehicles that I have installed it in with LATCH, it has taken 5 minutes tops.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Turn the seat over and look where the straps hook onto the metal splitter plate. you should see that each strap has two sets of loops, one tighter and one looser. That should give you the extra strap length you need.</div>
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this is what I was gonna say, there should be two sets of loops to adjust the strap length.<br><br>
Hope that works! otherwise they don't outgrow it until there is less than an inch above their head and the top of the plastic shell. Or of course, they get past 30 lbs.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm not sure where to go from here because we have to switch the car seat from our car to the babysitters 3 times a week. I really like the bucket seat since she has a base and can keep it in her car all the time. Are the convertible seats easy to switch cars?<br><br>
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When it does come time for a convertible, in terms of ease of installation, it doesn't get any easier than a Britax Marathon or Boulevard. But if that's outside of your budget, there are still some really good seats you can get for a lot cheaper.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">When it does come time for a convertible, in terms of ease of installation, it doesn't get any easier than a Britax Marathon or Boulevard. But if that's outside of your budget, there are still some really good seats you can get for a lot cheaper.</div>
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Yep that is out of my budget. DH wants to get a graco nautilus next. Not sure how easy it is to install and switch from car to car though.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">this is what I was gonna say, there should be two sets of loops to adjust the strap length.<br><br>
Hope that works! otherwise they don't outgrow it until there is less than an inch above their head and the top of the plastic shell. Or of course, they get past 30 lbs.</div>
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Ok that is a good reference. He has at least 4" before his head is that high in the seat.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Turn the seat over and look where the straps hook onto the metal splitter plate. you should see that each strap has two sets of loops, one tighter and one looser. That should give you the extra strap length you need.</div>
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Thanks. I will check that out tonight after I get home. I hope we have it on the tighter one and there is some room to loosen it.
 

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Could you buy an extra Scenera for the sitter or even your main car too. They run about $45 each. You could get the sitter a Scenera & an Evenflo Triumph Advance for you main seat. It would be under $200 total. That way you don't have to worry about installing correctly so often. I would wait on the Nautilus since it doesn't RF. It's a great seat & easy to install for bigger kiddos that are FFing.
 

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Your babe is too young for a nautilus and should still be rfing. If you can't do a britax, I'd look into a true fit or evenflo triumph advance.
 

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If he still has 4" above his head, he probably needs the middle slots, not the top ones. You want the straps to be at or BELOW baby's shoulders, not above. Ilana moved to the top slots right as she was hitting that 1" mark. It definitely sounds like you just need the bigger settings on the straps, there's some on the shoulder and some on the hips. I would probably look at getting a nicer seat like the Evenflo Triumph and then some seats like the Safety 1st Avenue as backups for sitters or whatnot. Or just all Avenues. A Nautilus is a great seat, but only after baby has outgrown a rfing convertible seat, so 30-35# and is preferrably 2+ yrs. My youngest 2 are still rearfacing, Ilana is 23 mos and Evan is 46 mos.
 

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I agree that your babe is too young to be FF. Although technically the law says he can FF at a year and 20 lbs, he's 4-5 times safer RF. There are a lot of links with studies, but I think the videos say it all.<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qef1TXZ05Dg&feature=related" target="_blank">Rear-facing</a><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFPSStXfqE&NR=1" target="_blank">Forward-facing</a><br><br>
Some great seats that will get you RF to 35 lbs are the Evenflo Triumph Advance $150, and the Learning Curve True Fit $180. They both have tall top slots and higher weight FF harness limits.<br><br>
If those are still out of your budget I would recommend the Safety 1st Avenue or the Cosco Scenera which both RF to 35 lbs. The Scenera is $45 and the Avenue is $75 but the Avenue has EPP foam and taller slots. They both only harness to 40 lbs FF, but if you got the Graco Nautilus after that you'd be golden.<br><br>
I understand the appeal of some of the 3in1 seats because they claim to be the only or last carseat you'll ever need, but stay clear of those. They make decent harnessed seats (although most only harness to 40 lbs) but they make terrible boosters. They are really not worth the money.<br><br>
If budget is really a concern, and especially if your DH isn't too keen on buying another carseat, I'd go with the Avenue as long as you plan on getting a high weight harness seat later on.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Could you buy an extra Scenera for the sitter or even your main car too. They run about $45 each. You could get the sitter a Scenera & an Evenflo Triumph Advance for you main seat. It would be under $200 total. That way you don't have to worry about installing correctly so often. I would wait on the Nautilus since it doesn't RF. It's a great seat & easy to install for bigger kiddos that are FFing.</div>
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The scenera looks like a good seat for the sitter. Right in our price range.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">If he still has 4" above his head, he probably needs the middle slots, not the top ones. You want the straps to be at or BELOW baby's shoulders, not above. Ilana moved to the top slots right as she was hitting that 1" mark. It definitely sounds like you just need the bigger settings on the straps, there's some on the shoulder and some on the hips. I would probably look at getting a nicer seat like the Evenflo Triumph and then some seats like the Safety 1st Avenue as backups for sitters or whatnot. Or just all Avenues. A Nautilus is a great seat, but only after baby has outgrown a rfing convertible seat, so 30-35# and is preferrably 2+ yrs. My youngest 2 are still rearfacing, Ilana is 23 mos and Evan is 46 mos.</div>
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Thank you! I checked and his straps need to be lowered 1 slot to the middle slot. The top slot is about 1" above his shoulders right now. That gave us some extra room.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I agree that your babe is too young to be FF. Although technically the law says he can FF at a year and 20 lbs, he's 4-5 times safer RF. There are a lot of links with studies, but I think the videos say it all.<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qef1TXZ05Dg&feature=related" target="_blank">Rear-facing</a><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFPSStXfqE&NR=1" target="_blank">Forward-facing</a><br><br>
Some great seats that will get you RF to 35 lbs are the Evenflo Triumph Advance $150, and the Learning Curve True Fit $180. They both have tall top slots and higher weight FF harness limits.<br><br>
If those are still out of your budget I would recommend the Safety 1st Avenue or the Cosco Scenera which both RF to 35 lbs. The Scenera is $45 and the Avenue is $75 but the Avenue has EPP foam and taller slots. They both only harness to 40 lbs FF, but if you got the Graco Nautilus after that you'd be golden.<br><br>
I understand the appeal of some of the 3in1 seats because they claim to be the only or last carseat you'll ever need, but stay clear of those. They make decent harnessed seats (although most only harness to 40 lbs) but they make terrible boosters. They are really not worth the money.<br><br>
If budget is really a concern, and especially if your DH isn't too keen on buying another carseat, I'd go with the Avenue as long as you plan on getting a high weight harness seat later on.</div>
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Thanks. I will look at the Avenue too. The Nautilus goes up to 65 lbs with a harness but I realize it is RF which I don't want to do until DS is 2. DH does not agree with this but I am working on it.<br><br>
I did check the back straps where the metal clip is and they are fully extended.<br><br>
Thanks for the advice ladies. I think now that we lowered the straps, he should be good for another 4-6 months depending on how fast he grows in this seat.<br><br>
ETA: We looked at the Triumph and didn't like it. I found it difficult to adjust and DH thinks it's too wide for his Honda civic.
 

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You've gotten some great advice already, but I wanted to add....<br><br>
We had a Triumph for DH's Neon....comparable to a civic.....and it actually worked better than even the infant bucket seats in his car....... it looks huge - and the seat area is large, lots of room for the LO....but the way the base is, it fits very well in tight spaces and the back isn't as long as a marathon etc so it fits nicely rf. Can't say much about the strap adjustments, we had one of the older ones, w/out the infinite adjust harness; it was a pain, 'cause you had to actually take the back of the seat off to change harness strap height....I don't think you need to do that w/ them anymore though
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The Nautilus goes up to 65 lbs with a harness but I realize it is RF which I don't want to do until DS is 2. DH does not agree with this but I am working on it.</div>
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My DH is not too keen on my DD extended RF either. DD is 3 and 1.5 months and still RF (24 lb and 34", so she is a peanut). He saw the need up till about age 2 since she is so small (did not hit 20 lb till after 2), but thinks I am using overkill now. The way I convinced him is to have ME be in charge of installing carseats at all times. If he does not have to mess with putting the seat in RF, it is not that big a deal to him. Also, emphasizing that lots of studies show that it is a lot safer for her spine and neck RF, and NO studies show any damage to legs RF. Plus, she seems to be happy enough and likes having her soft baby dolls right at her feet facing her, so why fix what is not broken? I also decided to put a mirror back there on the headrest which technically is a nono as it could be a projectile, but I have it buckled on the headrest pretty tight and it enables me to see/talk to DD so she is happier in the car. I still don't know if we will make it all the way to 33 lb RF (limit on her Britax Decathlon), but for now, she still has tons of growing room (she is on second to bottom set of slots RF). By the time she hits 33 lb, she may be 5 or 6, and I am definitely okay with a kid that old riding FF.
 

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Thanks. I have shown him all the videos and reports of the dangers of FF too early. He said they tape the dummies head to the seat so it doesn’t look so bad RF <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> We came to the agreement that DS would stay RF until he outgrew his Graco Safeseat. I thought it would last until at least 1.5-2 years at the time we made the agreement and now he’s almost out. It’s hard to fight with him when all the car seat boxes and signs in the store (along with the helpful employees <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll">) tell him it’s safe to turn them at 1 year/20lbs.
 

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I don't understand what he means by they tape the dummies head to the seat RF. The reason RF is safer is because the back of the seat cradles the head and neck. It's not tape that holds the head in place it's the car seat.<br><br>
I would really push for ERF because it really is so much safer. I know you know that, but if my husband wanted to do something I felt was less safe with my kiddo it'd be his responsibility to do the research and prove his point. Which of course in the case of RF vs FF he wouldn't be able to do.
 

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I will try again in a few weeks. It's like <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"> when we fight about car seats. His arguments are totally invalid and it's like talking to a wall but he will not budge. I will not budge on vax and CIO even though he does not agree with me. So sometimes you just have to compromise and I'm doing my best to keep him RF as long as possible.
 

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He's probably seeing the sensor in the video that is there to measure movement. Some people think the dummy's head is taped down.<br><br>
Luckily, my DF sees other LOs & points out that they should still be RFing.
 

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If baby still has that many inches above their head, they're not almost out of the seat. Most kids will make it past 1, closer to 18 mos. That's when Ilana would've outgrown it I think, that's the last time I sat her in it anyways to know. Even if you get that far, that's better than 12 mos, just push the limits of the seat as much as you can. There's so much info out there it's not even funny how people come up w/ excuses to not erf.
 
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