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I was a bag of nerves this morning. Had to spend an hour in a hot car, feeling nauseous and then when I walked into the clinic, it stank of cigarette smoke! :puke<br>
Obviously no-one was smoking inside but they'd all had their fix outside! (Are you getting this? Russians smoke ALOT!)<br>
I had a pap smear, blood draw, urine test, weight check, blah.<br>
After which the OB took me into the dark little ultrasound room and introduced me to the big burly MALE u/s tech (the only one at the clinic).<br>
He was appropriate and everything but it was a little creepy just because it was a vaginal u/s and I'm used to female OBs and nurses.<br>
Anyway, I heard the heartbeat! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"> and feel so much happier about this pregnancy!!! I'm measuring 7 weeks 5 days.<br><br>
The OB/GYN was fine. Pleasant, professional, gentle during the pap smear. Not exactly warm and fuzzy though.<br>
When I said 'See you in January then' she replied, 'Hopefully. But, you know, it's still early'. WTF?!!!<br><br>
I have laughed about this all day because I've never had a m/c, I've had 1 completely normal pregnancy and delivery so there's no real reason for me to be paranoid. Her attitude is just typical Russian pessimism.<br>
It's all such a contrast to Houston where I delivered DS. There it was all singing and dancing, 'You're having a baby'!!<br>
I am relieved that I'm going back to the UK to deliver where everyone will be on my cultural wavelength!!!!<br><br>
I may feel nauseous all day but I'm so excited about this baby!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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Geez, what a wet blanket! Well, all I can say is:<br><br><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><span style="font-size:xx-large;"><span style="color:#FF0000;"><b>congratz on getting a heartbeat!!!</b></span></span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"></div>
 

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OMG. I can't believe the OB said that! You have some restraint, I think I might have gone for a punch in the face and blamed it on pregnancy hormones!
 

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What an experience! Will you just go to the UK for the last month or so, or will you be back there for longer?
 

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oh Welsh, that is SUPER!!! Congratulations!!!!!<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What an experience! Will you just go to the UK for the last month or so, or will you be back there for longer?</div>
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I'll take DS home when I get to 35 wks and DH will come home for 4 wks from my due date.<br>
We're going to risk him not making it in time for the birth in lieu of more bonding time with the baby. I delivered DS at 42 wks which is normal in my family. Knowing my luck, I'll be 'early' this time!<br>
Our current dilemma is whether to rent a place in our hometown for 3 months or stay with my Dad or in-laws. I'm thinking we're going to want privacy but the live-in help would also be nice.....
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'll take DS home when I get to 35 wks and DH will come home for 4 wks from my due date.<br>
We're going to risk him not making it in time for the birth in lieu of more bonding time with the baby. I delivered DS at 42 wks which is normal in my family. Knowing my luck, I'll be 'early' this time!<br>
Our current dilemma is whether to rent a place in our hometown for 3 months or stay with my Dad or in-laws. I'm thinking we're going to want privacy but the live-in help would also be nice.....</div>
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Welsh, we are also considering something like this, but we are not decided on what to do- Whether to go back to Canada for the birth or do it here. Why did you decide to go back for the birth?<br><br>
One thing we are worried about is the process of getting a passport for the baby so everyone can come back to Dubai at the same time (after a month or so). I have no idea how long it will take to get the birth certificate and the passport ready in time to come back in a month after the birth. And I'm not sure if I want to spend a few days of babe's first month running around, getting photos, standing in lines, and filling out paperwork at government offices. This can sometimes be a hassle, in Canada at least, and at every Canadian embassy in a foreign country that I've had to get my passport redone.<br><br>
Another reason we are considering having the baby back home is because the Canadian government is passing legislation that says that because DH and I are Canadian, of course our child will be Canadian- BUT if our child is born outside of Canada and then has children (even with another Canadian) outside of Canada their children won't get Canadian citizenship! Ridiculous! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"> There are quite a number of Canadian expats out there that are enraged about this.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Another reason we are considering having the baby back home is because the Canadian government is passing legislation that says that because DH and I are Canadian, of course our child will be Canadian- BUT if our child is born outside of Canada and then has children (even with another Canadian) outside of Canada their children won't get Canadian citizenship! Ridiculous! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"> There are quite a number of Canadian expats out there that are enraged about this.</div>
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Remember, though, that immigration law changes like the wind. Laws were much different when I was born in Canada, as they are now, and as I'm sure they will be when our children may or may not be having children of their own.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Welsh, we are also considering something like this, but we are not decided on what to do- Whether to go back to Canada for the birth or do it here. Why did you decide to go back for the birth?<br><br>
One thing we are worried about is the process of getting a passport for the baby so everyone can come back to Dubai at the same time (after a month or so). I have no idea how long it will take to get the birth certificate and the passport ready in time to come back in a month after the birth. And I'm not sure if I want to spend a few days of babe's first month running around, getting photos, standing in lines, and filling out paperwork at government offices. This can sometimes be a hassle, in Canada at least, and at every Canadian embassy in a foreign country that I've had to get my passport redone.<br><br>
Another reason we are considering having the baby back home is because the Canadian government is passing legislation that says that because DH and I are Canadian, of course our child will be Canadian- BUT if our child is born outside of Canada and then has children (even with another Canadian) outside of Canada their children won't get Canadian citizenship! Ridiculous! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"> There are quite a number of Canadian expats out there that are enraged about this.</div>
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Oh that is ridiculous! I hear you about the administrative hassles. My hometown is very rural so we'll either have to make a postal application for DCs passport or make a 100 mile trip to the passport office.<br><br>
The reasons we are doing it in the UK though are to do with the birth.<br>
I did my research and found that the embassies send their staff/spouses home to deliver and the insurance companies air-ambulance you out if there are problems. Clearly there's not much faith in the medical system here.<br>
There is one private clinic where some expats give birth. Some of the doctors speak English but none of the nurses do.<br>
The experience there is highly medicalised. I mean, you have to fight not to be shaved and enema-ed! They want to take your baby away alot, doctors checks have to be done in the nursery. A friend who had insisted that her baby receive no bottles, caught a nurse giving the baby a bottle of formula nonetheless.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><br>
I think all this would be stressful enough but add our limited Russian language to the mix and I'd be freaking out!<br>
Plus, the clinic is quite far away, traffic is horrific and I had a fast labor with DS....<br>
In the UK, care is midwife led and much more 'normal' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
What's birth care like in Dubai?<br><br>
P.S My housekeeper is Filipina and she was telling me that in hospital in the Philippines, they will not give you formula. You have to try to breastfeed!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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What's birth care like in Dubai?<br><br>
P.S My housekeeper is Filipina and she was telling me that in hospital in the Philippines, they will not give you formula. You have to try to breastfeed!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"></div>
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Childbirth in Russia sounds quite nightmarish- I understand your decision now!<br><br>
As far as I know, and to be honest I haven't done that much research yet, but the birth experience here can be quite varied. There are great hospitals in Dubai (some are really lavish and luxurious if you can pay for them) but midwives are unheard of and homebirth is illegal. The hospital I've been going to where my OB is okay, but I think I'll be switching to a nicer one for the birth. But medical care here and hospitals are pretty "normal" in my comparisons to Canada and my comparisons to other places we've lived in Asia. I would have loved to give birth in Japan, where we used to live- they have amazing natural birth centres, but I would have done anything NOT to give birth in Korea where we lived previously as well.<br>
As far as staff speaking English, everyone speaks English here so that's not really a problem. A lot of the staff, nurses and doctors in addition to English-speaking westerners are Filipino and Indian and they tend to speak to each other in their first languages rather than English when around patients and that made me a bit uncomfortable at first.<br>
We've only just recently moved here and I don't know many women yet but I've heard that you can have a good natural birth without problems as long as you make it clear that's what you want beforehand. I really need to look into things more though.<br>
I'm not surprised about the breastfeeding in the Phillipines! I don't like to make sweeping generalizations, but this one is positive as least- Filipinos are the most natural and loving childcare givers I've ever seen. There is some wonderful aspect of their culture maybe that makes them so. Lots of expats in places I've lived have Filipina nannies and when I visited the Phillipines I noticed lots of happy, happy babies...mostly being cared for by grandparents. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 
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