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DH and I are having some issues with finances. He works full time out of the home and I WAHM and take care of DD, so I pay the bills in our joint housekeeping account (and have a separate business account). The trouble is DH forgets I have paid the car insurance or whatever and gets upset we don't have what he thought we had in the bank, also thinks he spent $50 when it adds up to $100. We are both quite frugal and on a budget, and live within our means, just have a mortgage and car payments (ugh but mine is a tax deductible expense so was worth it) plus $800 a month in child support but we are ok and its more how to manage the system so he is more 'in the loop' since he does not remember what is pending and apparently what he spends! He really does have a terrible memory. I just need some ideas on how to easily write things down so he and I have a record since we both use the same account for things like food and groceries and gas, or ideas how to handle it easily. I think its better if I pay the bills as he is liable to forget those too! He is very fair and not mean but his biggest challenge is organization so I think if I can organize it easily for him somehow that would help, and stop the bickering lol! Thanks!!
 

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Online banking? DH can log into our account, see exactly how much is in there and where it was spent. We never overdraft because of this.
That works for me but not for him, I think I am going to pay some things with cashiers checks (if they are free) so they are not pending for 2 weeks which is really annoying to begin with. I wish he would check the on-line banking more but he just doesn't then he says I thought we had x and I patiently (or not so patiently) explain yes but the insurance did not clear yet...
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We have it set up where I pay the bills online. I also track what he spends, not to nag him but if I didn't have online access, he'd forget to tell me. I'm trying to convince him to give up his debit card and only carry around $25 a week with which to buy junk but he won't. I'm way too frugal sometimes.
 

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We have it set up where I pay the bills online. I also track what he spends, not to nag him but if I didn't have online access, he'd forget to tell me. I'm trying to convince him to give up his debit card and only carry around $25 a week with which to buy junk but he won't. I'm way too frugal sometimes.
LOL me too! I think its worse since he started using the debit card as he totally forgets he spent. He had to cancel it last month as there were 2 unknown charges for $75 from a grocery store and we thought someone had used it fraudulently. Finally he says oh now I remember it was gas but you told me it was the grocery store - where HE bought the gas!!!!!) arrrghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont want to nag him either but that is what happens as he just does not keep track.
 

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We have set up an "allowance" for the one not paying the bills, that's me btw. My dh took over bill payment when I went back to college and I've never taken it back.
There are many ways to do this. For us, I have a direct deposit from his work check to my personal checking acct. This money is our grocery budget and it is my responsibility to buy groceries. He takes care of the rest. I use a joint credit card for clothing, doctor appts, medications, gas, etc. Of course, major purchases like clothing are discussed ahead of the trip, as well as doctor visits or dentist. This would not work well for your dh since he is a bit forgetful from your description. But having his own checking account with an allowance might.
The envelope method is a cash method of budgeting. It works quite well. An envelop labeled and the cash or check is put in, usually cash. So, for example: you might have envelops labels Grocery, Dining Out, Car Insurance, Mortgage, Electric or just Utilities, Dh's Allowance (eating out at work, a magazine, a coke on the drive home, what ever it is that he buys during the month that isn't a big huge catagory like Home Improvement), etc. With each pay check either a cash or check is put into the corresponding envelop. Everyone knows where the money is at, everyone has their limit in an envelop, it really does prevent over spending when it's all cash and items like Car Ins which we pay 2X a year, we can set aside each month the necessary amount to make that payment every 6 months or Car Tax is another one.

There no 1 right way for every couple. We were told not to have separate checking accounts in a finance class, sorry, didn't work for us. I haven't seen a married couple yet that this works for unless they use the cash envelop method or something similar. Two people using the ATM cards and Debit Cards from 1 account is just a nightmare, especially when 1 thinks this and the other thinks something else about where the money needs to go. I also work at home and have 2 businesses, 1 still in development.

BTW - budget counseling is a thing I do and I went back to college to finish my Accounting and Finance degree some many years ago now.

HTH, you sound like you've got a good handle on things and just need a little help in the area of keeping it together with 1 joint account. If communications becomes an issue, we recently went to a marriage conference and were given a tile, who ever holds the tile gets to speak (there were other rules as well, but mostly just non-accusatory type language and speaking facts with how that makes the speaker feel)
 

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I keep care of our bills. My dh hasn't written a check for a few years until just a few nights ago and I have the debit card. He carries cash or uses a credit card. The other night his friend asked to borrow money he wrote out a check but told his friend to wait until he checked with me to see if we had enough in our account.
I pay the bills he gives me the money. It's a beautiful thing.
 

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Thanks for the great suggestions. I think the allowance thing is a good idea, and he did have his own personal account before we moved and I think maybe he needs that again! I think he may feel overly controlled when I am just trying to establish how much we have or do not have. His ex was a spend-aholic too so he is a little touchy about it I notice. I think I am going to suggest the allowance and separate bank account for him and see what he says when we 'talk' later. Its been hard as he has been working out of town too which does not help anything. He really has a hard time with any paperwork and it is not worth arguing over but it just gets frustrating so we need a solution. Plus we are both super-defensive which does not help!

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We have set up an "allowance" for the one not paying the bills, that's me btw. My dh took over bill payment when I went back to college and I've never taken it back.
There are many ways to do this. For us, I have a direct deposit from his work check to my personal checking acct. This money is our grocery budget and it is my responsibility to buy groceries. He takes care of the rest. I use a joint credit card for clothing, doctor appts, medications, gas, etc. Of course, major purchases like clothing are discussed ahead of the trip, as well as doctor visits or dentist. This would not work well for your dh since he is a bit forgetful from your description. But having his own checking account with an allowance might.
The envelope method is a cash method of budgeting. It works quite well. An envelop labeled and the cash or check is put in, usually cash. So, for example: you might have envelops labels Grocery, Dining Out, Car Insurance, Mortgage, Electric or just Utilities, Dh's Allowance (eating out at work, a magazine, a coke on the drive home, what ever it is that he buys during the month that isn't a big huge catagory like Home Improvement), etc. With each pay check either a cash or check is put into the corresponding envelop. Everyone knows where the money is at, everyone has their limit in an envelop, it really does prevent over spending when it's all cash and items like Car Ins which we pay 2X a year, we can set aside each month the necessary amount to make that payment every 6 months or Car Tax is another one.

There no 1 right way for every couple. We were told not to have separate checking accounts in a finance class, sorry, didn't work for us. I haven't seen a married couple yet that this works for unless they use the cash envelop method or something similar. Two people using the ATM cards and Debit Cards from 1 account is just a nightmare, especially when 1 thinks this and the other thinks something else about where the money needs to go. I also work at home and have 2 businesses, 1 still in development.

BTW - budget counseling is a thing I do and I went back to college to finish my Accounting and Finance degree some many years ago now.

HTH, you sound like you've got a good handle on things and just need a little help in the area of keeping it together with 1 joint account. If communications becomes an issue, we recently went to a marriage conference and were given a tile, who ever holds the tile gets to speak (there were other rules as well, but mostly just non-accusatory type language and speaking facts with how that makes the speaker feel)
 

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I keep care of our bills. My dh hasn't written a check for a few years until just a few nights ago and I have the debit card. He carries cash or uses a credit card. The other night his friend asked to borrow money he wrote out a check but told his friend to wait until he checked with me to see if we had enough in our account.
I pay the bills he gives me the money. It's a beautiful thing.

That would be a beautiful thing lol! I don't think it would work for DH though as thats what he did in the previous marriage and it was a disaster. How much baggage we carry even when we think we don't!!!
 

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Sounds like the allowance idea is a good one. If he doesn't like carrying cash he can have a separate account (with your name on it too of course) where his allowance $$ is deposited for his use. Another idea is to get him a credit card with a limit that corresponds to his monthly allowance so he uses that and you pay it off every month.
 

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that's similar to what my ex and i did. he would "get" $200 per month for food, gas, toys, whatever he wanted, put into an account of his own (it didn't have my name on it, but it was linked to our account so we could deposit into it). some months he didn't use much, some months he used it all. his debit card was linked to it, although he also had a checkbook for the joint account.

good luck, be creative, and hope it works out!
 
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