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The nurse called today and I tested positive for another blood clotting gene, MTHFR. By itself, it's not really an issue. But since I already havthe clotting disorder FVL, it does compound the problems. So, I have to go on heparin. I have an appointment on Thursday to learn how to give myself the shots. I think the shots are in the abdomen once or twice a day. That's not going to be fun! It also means a lot more monitoring and an increased chance of them setting the eviction date earlier. (Earlier still wouldn't be before 37 weeks, though I'm hoping for a week or two later than that! I'm already high risk due to my insulin issues).<br><br>
Has anyone else here had to do the shots before? (Either heparin/lovenox or anything similiar). What extra monitoring did you have? Any hints at how to make the shots hurt less?
 

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I haven't had the shots. I do have to do the bloodwork to find out if I need them.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br>
I'm sorry. That kind of sucks.
 

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I had to give them to my son for several months...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
We alternated between his legs and tummy...poor kid.<br><br>
I would think it might be easier for someone to give them to you then to give them to yourself...it's a big needle. And you just close your eyes and squeeze something...
 

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My dad had to do the shots in his belly for a few months last year and I remember asking him how terrible it was and he said, "oh, no, they definitely don't hurt or anything...the needle just looks big." He swore he could barely feel a thing.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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Oh, I'm so sorry you have to go through that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
The acronym makes me laugh though... it looks like motherf*er - which is probably an apt acronym for this!
 

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If you really pinch up a section of skin between your thumb and pointer finger and squeeze it while giving the injection, I've been told it hurts less.<br><br>
Your shots are Lovenox, correct, not Heparin?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If you really pinch up a section of skin between your thumb and pointer finger and squeeze it while giving the injection, I've been told it hurts less.<br><br>
Your shots are Lovenox, correct, not Heparin?</div>
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I asked my dr about Lovenox and she said she prefers to use Heparin or something else that I can't remember the name of. I have heard of drs using Heparin instead of Lovenox before.
 

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Oh wow - I'm sorry you have to go through all of that. My brother had to give himself heparin shots in the stomach for a blood clot for about 2-3 weeks. The needle itself was a very fine needle, kind of like what diabetics use for insulin (so he was told) and he said the shot really wasn't painful, it was the idea of having to give himself a shot every 12 hours. His tummy did bruise up quite a bit so maybe your doc can give you some alternate injection sites in the event that happens. Before too long, you aren't going to have much tummy to spare...it will be all hard with a growing baby inside. I hope this is temporary for you.
 

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Not pregnant but I had Lovenox shots for DS. You can poke the needle at different points in your belly to see if it hurts, before pushing it in all the way.
 

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I do lovenox its not so bad really but it can hurt and cause bruising. we do heparin at the end and I will likely be induced as well because I have a blood clotting disorder as well that makes me high risk.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I do lovenox its not so bad really but it can hurt and cause bruising. we do heparin at the end and I will likely be induced as well because I have a blood clotting disorder as well that makes me high risk.</div>
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If that's your only issue, I'd strongly suggest you don't get induced. (However, if you've had blood clots and had a stillbirth, then I'd personally get the induction too!) Induced increases the chance of needing a c-section, which increases the clotting risks even more - plus a slew of other reasons why you don't want a c-section! On a FVL yahoo group, many of the women have been able to avoid an induction and wait until at least 40 weeks, some even 42. (I need a repeat c-section so going early won't effect my c-section risks. Also, my screwy insulin issue already had the drs saying a max of 38-39 weeks). I don't have the links at my fingertips, but I've read quite a bit on why trying to avoid an induction even if it means going post-dates can be better with most clotting disorders.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If that's your only issue, I'd strongly suggest you don't get induced. (However, if you've had blood clots and had a stillbirth, then I'd personally get the induction too!) Induced increases the chance of needing a c-section, which increases the clotting risks even more - plus a slew of other reasons why you don't want a c-section! On a FVL yahoo group, many of the women have been able to avoid an induction and wait until at least 40 weeks, some even 42. (I need a repeat c-section so going early won't effect my c-section risks. Also, my screwy insulin issue already had the drs saying a max of 38-39 weeks). I don't have the links at my fingertips, but I've read quite a bit on why trying to avoid an induction even if it means going post-dates can be better with most clotting disorders.</div>
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well I appreciate the well meaning advice but I have had 4 children with this disorder luckily and yes I have had a clot and miscarriages which is a huge occurance when you have the disorder that I do . I've never had a problem with the inductions and I have had 3 for medical need not just because. I know all about them and this disorder is not new for me. I do know the risks that this disorder entails to me and my unborn child extensively . I do know that going post dates with a blood clotting disorder is not better though but I am not going to argue that fact. I know that it causes miscarriage,still birth,slow growth, and can cause a slew of other problems. This is a serious issue which my sister has also just lost a baby from today as a matter of fact. my grandfather died from it and I have lost 3 babies from so I prefer to do what has worked and what my doctor recommends. I dont get induced before 39 weeks either but if things go wrong on the NSTs and BPPs, you can guarentee that I will risk a section over a dead baby but thats just me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If you really pinch up a section of skin between your thumb and pointer finger and squeeze it while giving the injection, I've been told it hurts less.<br><br>
Your shots are Lovenox, correct, not Heparin?</div>
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I do lovenox the whole pregnancy except for the last 4-6 weeks. Lovenox is longer acting and 1 shot per day. Heprin goes through your body faster and I had to do two shots a day. I went to that at the end in case something went wrong the last month like distress from a clot or something so if I had to be put under or something I wouldnt bleed to death. Thats how my perinatologist does it and the hematologist recommended it. I do know that if you need an epidural or spinal for some reason that being on lovenox and having those procedures can do that and thats why they recommend going on heprin at the end at least thats how my slew of professionals deal with it, I cant answer for everyone else though.
 

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oh and I wanted to add that with me its not the shot itself that hurts its the medicine that hurts, it does sting. Putting the medicine in the fridge has helped me with that though.
 
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