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I'm the same one who posted that ds cries over the potty. Well, he still is, oftentimes.<br><br>
Here's the problem. He wakes up dry, and I know he has to go. Well, he is a grumpy fella when he wakes up. If I try to potty him too soon, he gets really pissed and cries (and it is so loud in the bathroom!) If I wait, or nurse him first, he will for sure pee in his dipe. How do I get him to pee upon waking w/o freaking out? When I first started ECing (about 10 days ago) he was doing great, but now, not so much.<br><br>
Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions? DS is 2 months old.
 

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My DS isn't a grumpy waker, but we do have our share of "I'm too tired to pee" moments, they're just when he's going to sleep. Most of the time, we just cut our losses, but in general, when we know that he has to go, but he's protesting being held over the potty, we lay him on the changing table (well, you could lay him anywhere, that's just what's most convenient for us) without his diaper, and just smile and talk to him until he pees, at which point we've been standing poised with another prefold, which we just hold over the stream and it absorbs it all up. Oh, and we cue him when he pees too. That way, he's peeing and staying dry, and you have another opportunity to cue him. Potty can come later.<br><br>
Of course, this depends on how grumpy DS is when he wakes up, and if he would be agreeable to laying there naked from the waist down, but if so, then its something to try. Doesn't cut down on diapers, but its something.<br><br>
Also, when we started I would wait for DS to start moving and fussing in his sleep (he's a slow waker) and then I would grab him up and let him kind of wake up over the potty so I could catch that first pee. However, I realized as time went on that he could hold it until he actually woke up and opened up his eyes and such. So maybe you could also waiting for a different "stage" in the wake up process.<br><br>
Just some ideas, hope they can help.
 

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Are you picking him up and carrying him to the bathroom? I tried that, but the temperature plus movement made for crankyness. I now just lift her off the bed straight into my lap. There are risks with peeing in a bowl in the bed <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> but it also means if she objects, I just put her right back down and try a few minutes later. It did take us a couple weeks to find the best time to ask (and I got it royally wrong yesterday!) but now I know she'd rather hold it and delay until after nursing some (but I have to be very fast when she does stop nursing). I've also taken to putting a hand on her tummy and telling her we're going to do a potty check so it isn't a complete surprise.<br><br>
Waiting until the eyes opened helped me with her last waking, but not so much on the middle of the night ones because I swear she doesn't actually wake up!<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I've noticed with dd that there is a certain point in the morning when she will wait until she's awake to pee. In the middle of the night, I'm still changing two wet diapers- and she doesn't really wake up for those. I'm figuring that everything will change within a week, so why stress it. I'm catching what I can in what I can.<br><br>
From other threads, I get the feeling that the first couple of months of ec'ing are somewhat "easy", I wonder if we're catching a glimpse of what's to come. Anyone want to share.<br><br>
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nak<br><br>
I have been ecing ds, who is 2 months, for about two weeks. I do it pretty much on timing b/c I can't recognize his signals at all. He is hard to read b/c he is a pretty fussy baby overall and so it seems he's always complaining about something.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
So, I feel like I'm missing out on the "communication" part of EC. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I feel like when I catch one, it's just luck. I have even had some naked time, and really watched him to try to get it. I can tell when he's peeing or pooping in his dipe, but can't get signals before.<br><br>
Enough complaining, here's my question: with enough catches, even if just by sheer luck, will ds and I develop a system that is truly based on communication? I want to be able to read him and help him potty and not sit around in a yucky dipe.
 

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I hear you on this. We've been ec'ing just about as long as you two.<br><br>
With my limited experience, I manage to catch dd's pees/poo most of the time. I haven't been able to figure out her timing so I take her on my gut feeling, even when I don't really see/hear definite cues. I would say that I feel like we're communicating in the sense that she doesn't want to be in a dirty dipe and I try to avoid it, too.<br><br>
I think you're awesome for doing it on timing. I've found with some things in my life that sometimes I have to start them out planned and maybe not so intuitively but they soon turn to intuition-based things. Your patience will pay off, I have no doubt.<br><br>
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A comment on waking and pottying- DS would be LIVID if I pottied him before nursing him after he woke up. Even if he had been dry for 12 hours that night and I'd know he must have to pee sooo bad, he'd INSIST on nursing first, then would willingly potty.<br><br>
Can you nurse on the potty yet, or is it still too soon?
 

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Nurse on the potty? What do you mean? Me sit on the toilet nursing a naked baby with his privates aimed at the water, or do you mean nursing in my usual spot on the couch with a bowl under a naked baby? I gotta say, they both seem fairly awkward and unpleasant. I like nursing. I don't want to ruin the experience by holding him awkwardly, trying to catch a pee or poop in a bowl. Ick. But he does pee while nursing. I guess I could just have him in cloth w/o a cover and make the cueing sound so he is aware and we are communicating about it.
 

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When babes are bigger they can sit on the potty facing out, and you can nurse them enough for them to relax and pee.<br><br>
Or there are potty bowls you can get to hold between your knees- forget what they're called.<br><br>
If that doesn't tickle your fancy then don't bother.
 

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Yesterday, we got a BBLP (actually, the bigger size) but dd didn't like the cold seat- who would? Before she fell asleep she had to poo (said my gutt feeling) so I kept her in bed while dh went to get the part of the potty that comes out (so you can clean it) and I held her (kinda akward for a first time) and went back and forth between her wanting to nurse and wanting to poo. Well, she eventually poo'd into the inset! It was our first time helping her pee/poo into something in bed....<br><br>
however, we thought she was done.... when in reality it was only the beginning. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Dh had gone to clean the potty insert when she just kept on going. Luckily, we had a piece of wool under her, so I took it off, rinsed it and we went right to bed.<br><br>
so, poo'ing into a small receptacle was tricky, but I think I may try it again.<br><br>
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At 2 mo, I nursed DS over the potty by holding a plastic mixing bowl with round edges between my legs. It was awkward at first but got easier & was rewarding because it was the easiest way to catch at that age.
 

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We're still not getting much in the way of cues (started at 2mos, going for a month) but I've gotten very familiar with her patterns. We are, occasionally, starting to get cranky behaviour when she has to go. And we definately get crankyness when we've mised one. I figure the communication will even out in time. I suspect that if they don't have much in the way of cues to start off with that it takes longer - easier to reinforce an existing pattern then start a new one.
 
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