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Well, we went in yesterday for Elle's weight check and 15 month physical. For those of you who don't know Elle is slightly underweight for her age so we have been going in for monthly weight checks. She will be 15 months old on June 2 and she currently weighs 17 pounds 6 ounces she is in the 2nd% for her weight, 15% for her height and 25% for her head. I personally think the growth charts are a bunch of outdated crap but those are her stats. She is meeting her milestones on schedule and sometimes early.<br><br>
The problem comes in with her allergies. She is intolerant to Dairy, Soy, Wheat, and Whole Corn. She has been scratch tested and has had a RAST test and all of the tests came back negative. I have been informed by the doctors that those tests are not always accurate before 5 years of age.<br><br>
So yesterday the ped tells me that she thinks that the reason Elle is underweight is because her diet is so limited (really??? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"> ) She told me that she wants me to try to give her whole milk (which I will NOT be doing). I told her that I just recently tested dairy and soy (through my diet) and she had mucous in her stool which is the first warning sign for us that she is reacting. The ped told me that since it is just mucous I should go ahead and give it to her anyway. When I explained that the mucous is just the first sign and that the sleepless nights, gas and diarrhea will soon follow she got impatient with me. She said "Well, according to the tests she is not allergic" I was at a loss for words since she herself has told me in the past that those tests are not accurate at Elle's age. I am so sick and tired of this crap. Elle has gained 1 pound in the last month and grown 1 inch too and the ped is not happy with it. She says "it could have been more". I was so happy when I saw that she gained a whole pound and then the ped comes in the room and acts like it is not good enough. She said that she still thinks we should do a sweat chloride test to test for Cystic Fibrosis which I refuse to do because I think they are being rediculous and they are just out to bill my insurance.<br><br>
She wrote in the office visit summary that Elle should be consuming 37 ounces of milk a day!!!! I think that seems like an awful lot for a baby that is almost 15 months and is eating three meals of solids a day and still nursing on demand. Am I wrong?<br><br>
There is a really good ped in our area that I would like to switch to who is breastfeeding friendly and also anti vax friendly, but he is not covered by our insurance and we cannot afford to pay to see him out of pocket. I feel so aggrivated and annoyed right now.<br>
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Switching to a different doc could be a very good move. If/when you do it would be great if you told your current ped in a letter why you're switching. These docs need to know that we are educated and that their double-speak and contradictions aren't going unnoticed. The doc that tells me they don't know but they will look it up (and our family practicioner does) gets my respect. The one who tries to wing it does not. You may say "well what if I want to go back to her?" You probably won't but if you do then maybe she won't try to BS you.<br><br>
What's with her whole insistence on milk??? Neither of my daughters have ever drunk cow's milk and I think they're better off because of it.<br><br>
BTW, congratulations on your daughter's weight gain. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Congrats!<br><br>
At 4.5 my daughter weighs between 29 and 30 pounds. Every freakin pound is a huge victory for us. We have no dairy, gluten, soy or corn here. But she gets LOTS of fats! and she eats plenty of fruits and other natural carbohydrates. What is going in is good and what is coming out looks good. I have faith that she is healthy.<br><br><br>
Before we changed our diet, what was going in was "good" according to most standards but what was coming out was awful and she was in constant pain.
 

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Thank you both very much <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
My dh and I are so happy with her weight gain and her 1 inch growth <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> I don't think the ped understands how much planning and work goes into every meal that Elle eats. We go to Whole Foods (30 minuets away) about 3 times a week to get healthy organic foods for our family. I don't think the ped understands that with such a limited diet you can't just pull something out of the cabinet and serve it KWIM? All of the foods Elle eats have to be fresh and prepared at every meal. She is eating a very healthy diet of breastmilk, breads, oils, free range meats, organic veggies and fruits. Honestly I cannot imagine healthier diet even if she did not have allergies. I think that the medical profession is so used to toddlers eating foods full of preservatives, starches and growth hormones making them overweight that when they see a child who is eating healthy foods and who is a healthy thriving child they think there is something wrong with them. Sometimes it is a really sad world that we live in.<br>
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Wow<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"><br>
I say you are doing MORE than fine, mama.More than most parents wuld do to keep their babe healthy<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Most people would blindly follow their ped. Good for you for sticking up.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
I still suspect formula and dairy companies are sleeping with the medical institutions-but alas, that is a different thread.<br>
Your daughter doesn't need the help of a cow to be healthy.Tell your ped to shove it:LOL<br>
It is true, charts were based on mostly ff babies. And many babies arenaturally petite. DD was only like 22 pounds for the longest time. She is 2 1/2 now and 28.Not really skinny, but nowhere near really chubby either.<br>
My dd will often eat alot for 2 weeks, stop and eat hardly anything for a week or two, and then grow. So toddlers diets are hard to manage as it is.<br>
HTH, good luck!
 

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In our experience, mucus in the stool was a sign of yeast overgrowth... then more yeast growth causes the gas and diarrhea and malabsorption leading to food bits appearning in stools as well. This has caused me to look at allergies totally differently.<br>
I wonder if her gut flora is unbalanced and she is not absorbing her nutrients? How are her "normal" poops?<br>
What oils are you using? Coconut is the most easily digested, it's actually in mainstream supplements for cystic fibrosis kids.
 

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You're right; if your dd reacts with mucus via breastmilk, you definitely don't want to give it to *directly*. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> You gotta love those pediatricians. Also, if the reaction leans more towards a gastro response, then it is likely to be a non-IgE-mediated allergy and will not show up on tests. A good ped. allergist will know this; an excellent gastro--with a lot of experience with food allergies--should know this; most pediatricians are clueless.<br><br>
Ds2 weighed just over 12 pounds at 12 months; he wasn't even close to the chart. Anytime he gained a pound, it was cause for celebration. Our pediatrician was happy with a pound/month and close to ecstatic with 1 1/2 pounds. She is ds2's second ped (the first was an official jacka**) and she knows when to defer to our experiences and research efforts. She respects my right as a parent to question or challenge anything that doesn't right and she works very closely with our allergist. If she ever pushes anything that I know or suspect to be detrimental to my son, we will leave the practice immediately. It's not worth compromising his health. BTDT. At his 24 month well-baby last June, she removed the FTT dx. even though he wasn't yet on the chart--he had established his own personal curve, right below it.<br><br>
Not only are bf babies smaller than ff babies, many children with food allergies have or have had absorption issues. We had a consultation with an allergist at Johns Hopkins last summer and he reviewed all of the records and said that based on his growth, his allergies, certain reactions that had impacted the gut, blood tests and other test results, ds2 had undxed malabsorption throughout his entire first year and probably a few months beyond.<br><br>
I would definitely try to seek out a knowledgable specialist, someone who might be able to recommend another pediatrician.<br><br>
And congrats on that pound!!! I would have been thrilled!<br><br>
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Amy,<br>
Good luck finding an allopathic ped who understands. The best thing I did for Sierra was leave allopathic medicine. I know that you can't afford a ped out-of-pocket, but could you afford an ND? Sierra's ND (who specializes in peds and allergies and is so wonderful she got us free tests and gave me her cell phone number) is only $80.00 per visit - she also bought a new baby scale just because Sierra needs monthly weights that are exact. If you could afford this (and NYC is more expensive than most places) I could ask my ND if she knows someone in your area. Remind me of where you live if you're interested. Congrats on the pound and inch :LOL :LOL :LOL I would be doing cartwheels!
 

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Coming from someone who has allergies and is doing great at 0% on height (and used to be for weight before kids), stop worrying. If she is going up and getting a well-rounded diet who cares how fast. Also, unless you are on the same scale every time and they have it calabrated at least monthly, the scale can be off. Are you small? Is her daddy small? What about other relatives? MANY things matter with weight and height. Relax and enjoy the baby. Oh, and dump the ped.
 
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