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Hello!<br>
I have my dd in a private preschool in the am,and this week she started at a headstart preschool at one of the local elementary schools. I have no problems with the private one.DD likes it and I am very pleased with the woman who runs the 4-5yo class.I can see dd is learning and having plenty of fun in the mere 2.5 hours she is there.<br><br>
The headstart program on the other hand is not so great(imo),though dd ofcourse likes playing with Brooke her new friend.<br><br>
The program is from 12:30 to 4pm.I typically take her in at 1:30,which is after their lunch time.She likes to eat at home and unwind a bit. There are 4-5 women in the room when we go.I have no idea what their names are,or what their position is.DD just walks around till I let her know where/what to do.The staff is no help.Never even get a hello from anyone.<br><br>
It really bothers me that I nor my daughter have been introduced to the staff.<br><br>
I don't get any information on what is being done each day.I would like to see some sort of daily/weekly planner.<br><br>
In the other preschool dd is always bringing home papers of things she did like coloring,drawing lines from pic/pic,writing letters,but so far nothing from this headstart program.Plus in the private one the teacher takes the time to chat with me and tell me what they are doing that day/week,or what dd did that day.<br><br><br>
DD tells me the dolls she played with are dirty.Don't they clean the toys in between am/pm classes,or atleast at night?<br><br>
The headstart program integrates health,nutrition,and development/family issues into the program.I am not AT ALL interested in these things,and would prefer to be notified/asked permission before any tests/evaluations are done.<br><br>
Like yesterday they weighed/measured all the kids and then checked a box for what type of car restraint is used.I was not told this would be done,or given the option to refuse it.And to top it off they recommend my dd just use a car seat belt!!!!!<br><br>
Does signing up for this headstart program mean I sign away my rights to pick and choose what the staff does with my daughter?<br><br>
I simply want her to do preschool activities and play with the kids.Is there anyway to sign off on the rest?<br><br>
I want to bring it up,but I will probably come off as bitchy to the staff if I say," Hey listen I aprreciate you wanting to do all these little extra things beyond preschool activities,but I don't want you too.If you want to do a test or evaluation you will need my permission first."<br>
And even if I did say that whose to say they won't do things behind my back anyway???<br>
I Said no to the new NRSA testing they are doing,which they said is mandated/required for all kids(though on the web page it says a parent can refuse).<br>
I really can't afford the private preschool,but I am so much happier with it. I wish this headstart was just a preschool with a good program set for each day.If I did not have my 16mo ds I would probably sit in on a few days and see what they do,even though they don't seem welcoming to parents.Should I just pull out of the headstart one? They aren't at all used to someone who says no to things they want to do.<br>
Sara
 

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Ask. Ask. Ask some more. Yes, they should have introduced you to the teachers, but there is nothing stopping you from introducing yourself and asking their names. Yes, they should tell you what your child is doing all afternoon, but you can ask them, and they should be able to tell you. You can ask them how often they clean the toys. Maybe they will get the hint. Ask so much that they think you are the toddler.
 

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Hi Julie,<br>
I have done some of what you suggested.<br>
I immediately introduced myself and my daughter upon arrival(each day).The lady I would be with didn't really respond.The first day the one lady was going right into dd's file,and was more concerned with me signing some forms(I was told I could not refuse to authorize transportation in an emergency).Anyway so I gave her my own ET form and proceeded to tell her about dd's dieatry restrictions.The whole time dd is just walking around,not introduced to anyone.So I took it upon myself to introduce her to a girl,and ask if dd could join her.<br><br>
When I went to pick her up I did ask about what she did and what the routine was for each day,and got a generalized answer.<br><br>
I guess I am just used to detailed information like what is done in the private preschool.And it seems like they are more concerned with getting their forms and assessments done than actually doing preschool stuff.<br>
I may take her today,but I won't say anything until the end of the day.Would like to see what the day goes like for her without me possibly annoying the staff.<br>
sara
 

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Head Start programs all must follow federal program performance standards. The degree to which this is done successfully is dependent on the particular director and management staff. There are some wonderful Head Start programs and some that are very lacking. But they are all supposed to be on the same standards. I do a lot of consultation for Head Start, and they do have a lot of paperwork.<br><br>
I would talk to the director if I were you--have a sit-down discussion and explain your concerns. The program is supposed to be family centered and family focused; you should have the experience of at least feeling 'heard' even if there are some things that cannot be changed. I would think they would really like to hear your perspective. The teachers in the classroom might take feedback better from their director after he/she talks with you. I have tried to post the link for the Head Start standards. I hope it works, I wasn't able to copy the link directly. If it doesn't work, do a search on a general search engine for Head Start program standards.<br><br><a href="http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/administration/regulations/45CFR130x.index.html" target="_blank">http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/adm...30x.index.html</a>
 

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Thanks for the link and suggestions.I have read through that page before. I understand the need for these services for the low income families that don't have(or know little about) healthcare or child development issues. Those are areas I I just don't want a part of and maybe in the end it would be better if I just pull her out so some other more needy child can get those services.<br>
I am sure they are not used to a parent saying," Thanks,but no thanks." for anything they do.<br>
I took her in yesterday after missing a few days due to her and ds being ill,and I sure got the cold shoulder again and the one staff said,: Ooooooh Nimet is actually here today." Certainly did not make me or dd feel welcome,though she did have an ok time playing with a girl and boy. Like they couldn't say" Oh so good to see you Nimet.We missed you." or atleast something like that!<br><br>
I did write up the following letter today since I never find a *good* time to talk to the staff,but it would probably just make matters worse.I have no idea who the director is.<br><br><br>
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Headstart staff:<br><br>
Hello. My name is Sara. I am ****** mom. ****** is ***** father. We are not sure if an informational meeting and introductions were already covered with other parents since our daughter missed a few days due to form formalities and illness. Also, since our daughter attends a preschool in the morning we come to the headstart preschool program later in the day, and since class is already in session we have not felt there was a good time to discuss certain issues. So we are writing this letter to request some information, and to let you know a bit more about what we want from the headstart preschool program.<br><br><br>
What we would like from the headstart program is for our daughter to engage in preschool activities (ABC’s, numbers, time, days, and so on) through crafts, workbooks, singing, and general play. Socialization and learning to play with the other children through one-on one or group activities is also important for us.<br><br>
If you are interested in doing any type of developmental testing or non-preschool activities (which is part of the social services you provide) we would like to be informed prior so that we may review/discuss the information and then either consent or decline. We have already declined the new NRSA testing. All matters of health are to be taken care of by our pediatrician. If having our daughter enrolled in the headstart program means we have no choice in these matters then please let us know this.<br><br>
We would be interested in knowing the names and positions of the staff.<br><br>
We would like to know what activities are planned for each day. We would like a copy of a weekly planner for each upcoming week.<br><br>
We would like to have a copy of your headstart curriculum courses, so that we may review what is being taught. Some examples: Anti-bias, Headstart dental, Kids like Us, C.I.R.C.L.E. or P.E.A.C.H.E.S guides. We may not want our daughter to participate in certain ones.<br><br>
We would like to have a copy of the child/parent contact information from those who agreed to disclose the information for the list.<br><br><br>
Thank you very much for assisting us with these issues.>>>><br><br>
I wish I had asked for these things in a letter this summer before the classes even started!<br><br>
Sara
 

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The letter looks good! I'll be interested in the response you get. The staff comments you describe definitely don't sound like well-trained teachers. I would bring them to the attention of the director. If things don't change soon, it sounds like pulling her out may be your best option.
 

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Thanks again for your input.I will post an update once I talk to the director or whomever takes the time to listen.I may call and/or stop by there tomorrow while my dd is in the private preschool.<br><br>
My other concern is that my dd has been hit or pushed 3 out of the 4 days she has attended so far.Different boys eat time.. While I understand this can happen on occasion;it really bothers me that my dd has to put up with this on an almost daily basis.With 4 adults in the room I would expect better control of the children.My dd had this problem a few times in the private one(my brother pays for it),but the current teacher(wonderful) has a good routine with them and no problems since she took over the class.<br><br>
In the least I am going to try and get the parent list,so I can contact some of the friends dd made outside of the program should be decide to leave it. I sure wish I had someone to watch my 16mo son so I could stay in the class a few times!
 

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I used to work for a division of head start, and from what you've said, the staff is violating federal standards. Of course, the staff is probably also underpaid and undertrained.
 

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Sara, Where in Ohio are ya? Im in Columbus. My dd is the same age as your dc. Let me know if you're close maybe they can have a playdate<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 
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