[moodymaximus]

arrrrrrrrrgh! i'm still unable to figure out the little one's position! i'm almost 36 weeks!<br><br>
i'm pretty sure i feel the bum up high, then the back on my right side, going down, and possibly a leg / knee that leads from the bum to my left. when i try to palpate around the pubic bone and up, i can't feel anything. it is as though i need to press much deeper than at the top, and even then i'm not sure whether it isn't my bladder.<br><br>
i've been finding the hb at the lower bottom part (fetoscope), and i pretty much never looked for it anywhere else, it was just "there." but today i decided to try to listen to the placenta i found it crystal clear, the loudest ever, right at my belly button! it doesn't make sense. i tried at the usual position, and i could hear it there too, but not as clearly. the distance between the two is 10-15cm (3.9-5.9 inches). can it be the echo? so the actual hb is not down below but at my belly button. so where IS this babe?<br><br>
my fundal height rules out twins <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">

 

[moodymaximus]

anyone? i spent the night worrying that i might have twins who are measuring small and that something is wrong...i'm measuring 32cm at 35w5days! why do i hear two hbs?

 

[arcingpath]

Hi! I'm sorry you are having a tough time. I don't have much helpful advice on figuring out your question, but I wanted to reply and give you support since you are worried. How exciting to be getting so close to meeting baby!!<br><br>
I'm about 6 weeks behind you, and this may change, but so far I have had a strong inclination not to try to figure out the baby's position exactly to avoid the kind of confusion and frustration you are going through. From what I understand, even the most accomplished midwives have a hard time figuring out the position lots of times and also turn out to be wrong lots of times. Add that to the fact that the position may change, and I just don't see the point of putting myself through that frustration.<br><br>
I know you are not me, and there may be some reason you really feel you need to know this information. Though I don't try to feel or listen for the position at all, I do have a pretty good idea of it, I think. This is based on where I feel movement. Lots of the movement happens on two sides at once, head and feet, pretty much it seems like it has to be. One side seems more like probably feet and the other seems more likely to be head. That's the way I make my guesses.<br><br>
I hope you get some good advice and some peace of mind here. Whatever is going on is already determined by now and I'm sure you and your baby are doing great!! Good luck!

 

[NatureMama3]

I can find this little one's heartbeat in about 3 different places, one very loud from his heart and the other 2 presumably from his cord.

 

[moodymaximus]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hi! I'm sorry you are having a tough time. I don't have much helpful advice on figuring out your question, but I wanted to reply and give you support since you are worried. How exciting to be getting so close to meeting baby!!<br><br>
I'm about 6 weeks behind you, and this may change, but so far I have had a strong inclination not to try to figure out the baby's position exactly to avoid the kind of confusion and frustration you are going through. From what I understand, even the most accomplished midwives have a hard time figuring out the position lots of times and also turn out to be wrong lots of times. Add that to the fact that the position may change, and I just don't see the point of putting myself through that frustration.<br><br>
I know you are not me, and there may be some reason you really feel you need to know this information. Though I don't try to feel or listen for the position at all, I do have a pretty good idea of it, I think. This is based on where I feel movement. Lots of the movement happens on two sides at once, head and feet, pretty much it seems like it has to be. One side seems more like probably feet and the other seems more likely to be head. That's the way I make my guesses.<br><br>
I hope you get some good advice and some peace of mind here. Whatever is going on is already determined by now and I'm sure you and your baby are doing great!! Good luck!</div>
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thanks! i started to be curious about the position because this little one moves so diffrently from my other two. spinning babies make it sound so easy, and i got trapped! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">

 

[moodymaximus]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I can find this little one's heartbeat in about 3 different places, one very loud from his heart and the other 2 presumably from his cord.</div>
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ah! that's good to know! it would certainly make more sense than twins!

 

[christyc]

Not to throw a wrench in, but my midwife had several sets of surprise twins from mamas who declined routine ultrasound and never measured large because of the way the babies were positioned. I'm not saying that's what your situation is, I'm just saying it's possible!

 

[cathicog]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">anyone? i spent the night worrying that i might have twins who are measuring small and that something is wrong...i'm measuring 32cm at 35w5days! why do i hear two hbs?</div>
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Generally it is probably an echo, very easy to do at that stage. Sounds like he is head down, and if you follow his back down to the pubic bone, you might not feel his head, only the back of it, cuz the rest might be seated in the pelvis already, or he might have a well-flexed head(which is excellent). Sounds like you are doing fine. the heart sounds will sound like a galloping horse, and the swishy sounds that are the same rate as the baby is cord. The slow swishes that match your heartrate is the placenta...that is how you find where it is...a high placenta is good.

 

[moodymaximus]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not to throw a wrench in, but my midwife had several sets of surprise twins from mamas who declined routine ultrasound and never measured large because of the way the babies were positioned. I'm not saying that's what your situation is, I'm just saying it's possible!</div>
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wow! that's wild!

 

[moodymaximus]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Generally it is probably an echo, very easy to do at that stage. Sounds like he is head down, and if you follow his back down to the pubic bone, you might not feel his head, only the back of it, cuz the rest might be seated in the pelvis already, or he might have a well-flexed head(which is excellent). Sounds like you are doing fine. the heart sounds will sound like a galloping horse, and the swishy sounds that are the same rate as the baby is cord. The slow swishes that match your heartrate is the placenta...that is how you find where it is...a high placenta is good.</div>
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i get the galloping sound in both places, but the one lower is duller sounding, at the same rate, not really swishy. or maybe i don't know what is swishy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
i remember hearing my heartrate at some place too, so this is how i will determine teh sweishy sound, and then see if the lower one is swishy too. to me it just sounds further away, duller...<br><br>
thanks!