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I had this conversation with my mom earlier today and thought I would share it.<br><br>
My mom chose to leave my brother intact when he was born.<br><br>
When he was two years old he started having balooning when trying to urinate. She said that he also complained that it would hurt. So she took him to the pediatrician. The pediatrician insisted they see a urologist.<br><br>
The urologist told my mother that because his foreskin was not retractable that he had phymosis. He told her that if she did not agree to have him circumcised that his foreskin would become so tight that he would not be able to urinate anymore. This was in 1986.<br><br>
My mother said she was heartbroken and that she did not want to have the surgery done. However, the Doctors told her that it was a medical necessity that it be done. She sought a second opinion and was told the same thing. She didn't think she had any choice.<br><br>
She told me that on the day they went in for the surgery that the Doctor assured her that they would use adequate pain relief. (Keep in mind my brother was two years old at the time.) She said that they took him into a room while she sat in the waiting area.<br><br>
My mom said that she can still hear his screams. She told me that she will NEVER forget the look in his eyes when he was brought out of that room.<br><br>
When the Doctor came out to speak with her he brought my little brother with him. Then he looked at my mother and said "Look! Just look! Look at what you did to him by not circumcising him as an infant! This is all your fault."<br><br>
She said that she knows they didn't use proper anesthetic and that she is terrified that they didn't use any at all. She said it still haunts her.
 

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Your pour mom and your pour little brother. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Wow. My jaw is still hanging open. What a cruel, hateful experience! Has she spoken to your brother about this? If it is still haunting her, it might do her well to explain it to your brother and appologize. It would probably lift a huge weight off of her, and I'm sure your brother would be very understanding of the situation she was faced with.
 

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Wow.... I've heard similar stories about newborns, but never about 2-year-olds! My eldest was given four shots at once at the ped's and screamed and I felt horrible and he NEVER has forgotten it. I couldn't even imagine if it had been a circ, which - painwise- is much worse.<br><br>
Would you mind if I posted your story on my website?
 

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This convinces me even more that there is more than just a little bit of sexual sadism involved with those in the circumcision industry. And how sick of them to turn around and blame your mother. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
I hope your brother is made to understand that it was all very unnecessary and he doesn't use it as a reason to cut any sons he might have.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow.... I've heard similar stories about newborns, but never about 2-year-olds! My eldest was given four shots at once at the ped's and screamed and I felt horrible and he NEVER has forgotten it. I couldn't even imagine if it had been a circ, which - painwise- is much worse.<br><br>
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Feel free to share the story with anyone you can! If it saves someone else's little one from pain it would be wonderful.<br><br>
Unfortunately, I didn't find out the truth about my brother's circ being unnecessary in time to save my own son. My family totally believed what the Doctors told my mother until I started researching circumcision. My DS has suffered terribly from circ adhesions and Doctors ripping them apart. (That is what started my research and led to the enlightenment of my family on the topic of circumcision). If I ever am blessed enough to have another son you can bet he is going to be left intact!<br><br>
(My brother is not speaking to my mom currently. He has served two tours of duty in Iraq and is suffering from PTSD. Whole other can of worms there) My brother is also married to the face of Pro-Circ. (I had a thread about that recently)
 

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OMFG that is awful. How that doctor sleeps at night I will never know.
 

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That doctor victimized your mom and both your brothers. How could your mom have known this would happen? She was only doing what was advised by two doctors who are SUPPOSED to have the patient's best interest foremost and took oaths to "do no harm." My sympathies with your family for this traumatic event. There must be a special in hell for "doctors" like that.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There must be a special in hell for "doctors" like that.</div>
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OMG! Your poor mom and brothers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">: I believe that mothers are victimized in MGM as well by being told lies and being forced to go against their instincts. They aren't victims as much as the boys themselves, but they are victims all the same <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
love and peace. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> ugh. just ugh. ditto on the special kind of hell.
 

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Yup. Sadists. (Think about what circ is, & how shocking is it that perverts are drawn to it? Not that all sadists are perverts- the ones who keep it to consenting adults.)<br><br>
It's not surprising your bro has ptsd. It would be more surprising if he didn't.
 

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My grandparents are both dead now so I can't ask them what the doctors told them or the reason why but when my dad was 3 (this has been over 60 years ago) they had him circumcised.<br><br>
He said he still remembers it to this day, remembers being strapped down, the pain and screaming his head off - no pain relief. He has major aversions to any pain stimuli and I know this has to be why. He can't stand even the tiniest bit of pain. My mom said he has a horrible scar from it.<br><br>
He was so relieved when we told him we weren't cutting Charlie and since my parents are listed as guardians should anything ever happen to us they're up-to-date on all of the excuses doc's use to try and cut babies.<br><br>
How can those docs sleep at night?
 

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Is your brother still within the statute of limitations? If so I think action should be taken against the urologist. His behaviour was so unproffessional and the fact that the boy was under anathesied if at all is appalling. I also say shame on anyone who assisted urologust.
 

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I am crying for the pain this caused you lil' bro and for the guilt and pain it caused your mom. I am sooooo sorry this happens. It is beyond words how cruel dr.'s could be and can be. This should never happen<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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Any form of genital/sexual mutilation is sadistic.<br><br>
"Although the exact frequency is unknown, it is estimated that 1.2 million newborn males are circumcised in the United States annually at a cost of between $150 and $270 million. "(Source, AAP document)<br><br>
PLUS, there's money to be made. Dr.s don't do this for free. The more they can do, the more money they make.<br>
Just like women who birth in hospitals...there's more money to be made via c-section than a vaginal birth.<br><br>
Sometimes I wonder if these Dr.s really believe that what they are telling their 'customers' is true. Many Dr.s, especially older ones, where taught in med school that it's the 'right' thing to do. They are 'educated fools'.<br><br>
This is a tragic story that occurs with alarming frequency.<br><br>
Our pedi is against circ. We never discussed it, so I found out after Marley was born, at home and I took him in for what I thought was a capet that wasn't going down.<br><br>
When he unsnapped Marley's outfit, first he commented on the cool cloth diaper and I said, "and he's intact under there". "That's great!" our pedi said. He picked up my 3 week old son and looked him in the eyes and said "Someday you will thank your Mother for leaving you whole."<br><br>
By his tone and the look in his eyes, I could tell that he was circ'ed and NOT happy about it.<br><br>
A truly caring Dr. will take the time to educate THEMSELVES and their 'customers' on such issues.<br><br>
It's unfortunate (even criminal) that most Dr.s don't care enough to do this.<br><br>
Blessed Be,
 

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From what I have read that is was very common back then. Your pour brother, and your pour mother.<br><br>
OT tqoe62 - I was born and raised in Bako, DH is military so we are away, but my entire family is still there. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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