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We're planning to have a gap between when our youngest weans and getting pregnant again. Are there any cleanses or detoxing that you would do then? I had hg with both pregnancies and still have acne in my 30s! No amalgams though. I've looked a little bit at curezone, but I was a kinda put off reading a thread about taking borax internally.
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We're planning to have a gap between when our youngest weans and getting pregnant again. Are there any cleanses or detoxing that you would do then? I had hg with both pregnancies and still have acne in my 30s! No amalgams though. I've looked a little bit at curezone, but I was a kinda put off reading a thread about taking borax internally.
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I've looked a little bit at curezone, but I was a kinda put off reading a thread about taking borax internally.
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I wouldn't necessarily trust individual threads that are posted by any member on that site. I posted in the other thread here on MDC (Pregnancy & Acne thread) about how liver/gallbladder flushing cured my acne and oily skin and I meant that I was referring to the web site's general cleansing protocol outline for info and recommendations on what types of cleanses to do: http://curezone.com/cleanse/

I personally started with getting all my dental amalgams removed by a holistic dentist, then did colon cleansing (I don't know what is the best type to do since there are so many different kinds out there, but I've done 3 different kinds of colon cleanses before and all successful), parasite cleansing (there are also different types of this, but basically from what I was reading there are 3 specific herbs that should be used when killing parasites), and then I did liver/gallbladder flushing. There are several recipes for this, but the recipe that I've only used is Dr. Hulda Clark's recipe which is very simple and basically just requires Epsom salts (I found that they are best-tasting when taken with apple juice and I've also taken them with grapefruit juice which doesn't taste as good) and then olive oil and grapefruit juice. Its a cheap cleanse/flush, and the ingredients are all readily available at your grocery store. And I swear this worked for me, and worked for many other people too from what I was reading from other members posting on that site (which is what led me to try it), but you have to keep flushing until you get ALL of your stones out. It took 8 to 10 flushes for me until my acne and oily skin finally vanished , but I've heard of it taking 20 or more flushes for other people. You also have to have a lot of patience because you should only flush once every two weeks at the most it says. And make sure to do the colon cleansing and parasite cleansing BEFORE doing the liver/gallbladder flushing. So needless to say, the whole cleansing process will take you several months to complete.
 

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I wouldn't necessarily trust individual threads that are posted by any member on that site. I posted in the other thread here on MDC (Pregnancy & Acne thread) about how liver/gallbladder flushing cured my acne and oily skin and I meant that I was referring to the web site's general cleansing protocol outline for info and recommendations on what types of cleanses to do: http://curezone.com/cleanse/

I personally started with getting all my dental amalgams removed by a holistic dentist, then did colon cleansing (I don't know what is the best type to do since there are so many different kinds out there, but I've done 3 different kinds of colon cleanses before and all successful), parasite cleansing (there are also different types of this, but basically from what I was reading there are 3 specific herbs that should be used when killing parasites), and then I did liver/gallbladder flushing. There are several recipes for this, but the recipe that I've only used is Dr. Hulda Clark's recipe which is very simple and basically just requires Epsom salts (I found that they are best-tasting when taken with apple juice and I've also taken them with grapefruit juice which doesn't taste as good) and then olive oil and grapefruit juice. Its a cheap cleanse/flush, and the ingredients are all readily available at your grocery store. And I swear this worked for me, and worked for many other people too from what I was reading from other members posting on that site (which is what led me to try it), but you have to keep flushing until you get ALL of your stones out. It took 8 to 10 flushes for me until my acne and oily skin finally vanished , but I've heard of it taking 20 or more flushes for other people. You also have to have a lot of patience because you should only flush once every two weeks at the most it says. And make sure to do the colon cleansing and parasite cleansing BEFORE doing the liver/gallbladder flushing. So needless to say, the whole cleansing process will take you several months to complete.
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There are many detox pathways. You need to open up the multiple detox pathways with nutrients. And then I'd do natural antifungals, natural antibacterials, natural antimicrobials and then whole food probiotics. Also, clay, vit C, selenium, magnesium, Epsom salt baths to support detox pathways.

Where to start? Help 101

natural antifungals, antibacterials, antiparasitic, antimicrobials foods and spices in our diet

Caution: not all are appropriate for pregnant or nursing mothers!!

If I did a hard detox, I'd probably do Juice Feasting: http://www.juicefeasting.com/
(I wouldn't though, because I have a mouthful of mercury.)

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Pat, what type of clay? Do you eat it?
Panserbjorne has recommended it. I don't recall the exact type, maybe benonite??? Someone will know. But, it (may?) sop up toxins. I'm not informed about it. But, I trust PB's judgment. Although, I'd have to research more about it before trying it on myself, lol. I'm just that way.


Here are a few links. I have NOT read them. The first mentions something about cat litter being similar?!?! Looks like there are some concerns about aluminum content. And I've heard Silica has beneficial properties and is a major component of the clay.
http://www.coloncleansingreportcard....nite-clay.html
http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1145813
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentonite
http://www.colonzone.org/bentonite-clay.php
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxifi...onite-clay.htm
http://www.botanical.com/products/learn/bentonite.html
http://ezinearticles.com/?Bentonite-...tion&id=344644
http://www.bentoniteclay.com/
http://www.naturalnews.com/026508_cl...sm_toxins.html

Disclaimer, most of those sites are selling the clay.

Here is an old thread about the clay: clay and allergies and gut health

And some info about Activated charcoal

Food-grade diatomaceous earth is another natural possibility.

I've also read about French Green Clay - binds and eliminates metallic substances and microbes through the colon. (not that I believe that eliminating microbes is a beneficial idea!)

More info about heavy metal detox: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...y#post12032826

Also, there is the old Zeolite thread.

THE Iodine Thread and salt water flushes is another possibility.

Here are a bunch of threads regarding detox and mercury/amalgam issues.

Kombucha is another possibility. The key is to optimize detox pathways with nutrients, though. Otherwise you are just increasing *circulation* of the toxins which redeposit in the brain and other organs.

Personally, I'd consider seeing a TCM and acupuncturist, optimally. And do classical homeopathy for health maximization along with nutrient dense foods.


I advise caution with huge electrolyte and detox shifts. Do research and read on PubMed or Medline or National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine.

I am not keen on enema based detox. Way too invasive, imo.

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I would prefer to do food for detox too. And I'll see a homeopath before ttcing since the homeopathics were what got me off the nasty meds for hg last time
Thanks everyone for all of the info! Good thing it'll be awhile before ttcing since there is so much I need to learn.
 

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Epsom salt baths? Taking epsom salts is part of the liver flushing that I did. I agree with opening the detox pathways and eating a nutrient-rich diet, I'm pro-WAPF, Traditional Foods, etc., but here was my situation, not trying to argue, but just saying: when I did my liver/gallbladder flushing, let me clarify that I removed hundreds and hundreds of stones, I'd estimate approximately 2,000 stones total. I was getting out hundreds of stones at a time. Whether they are gallstones, liver stones, a combination of both, is debatable (I personally think they were mostly gallstones that I got out), but there was a direct correlation between getting out all my stones (the point where the number of stones that I got out dramatically reduced to where practically no more stones were coming out when doing the flushes) and that is exactly when my acne and oily skin vanished. Nutrition is essential too, but I truly believe, at least in my situation, that I really needed to do these flushes in addition to nutrition (epsom salts + olive oil + grapefruit juice) in order to expel all the stones from my liver/gallbladder. It seems to me that liver flushing is a form of opening the detox pathways. Now that my liver and gallbladder are decongested, my liver can perform its functions of filtering out toxins, cleaning my blood and regulating my hormones much better than it could before---and those functions that it was acting sluggish on, were all possibly the triggers that caused my acne.
 

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Epsom salt baths? Taking epsom salts is part of the liver flushing that I did. I agree with opening the detox pathways and eating a nutrient-rich diet, I'm pro-WAPF, Traditional Foods, etc., but here was my situation, not trying to argue, but just saying: when I did my liver/gallbladder flushing, let me clarify that I removed hundreds and hundreds of stones, I'd estimate approximately 2,000 stones total. I was getting out hundreds of stones at a time. Whether they are gallstones, liver stones, a combination of both, is debatable (I personally think they were mostly gallstones that I got out), but there was a direct correlation between getting out all my stones (the point where the number of stones that I got out dramatically reduced to where practically no more stones were coming out when doing the flushes) and that is exactly when my acne and oily skin vanished. Nutrition is essential too, but I truly believe, at least in my situation, that I really needed to do these flushes in addition to nutrition (epsom salts + olive oil + grapefruit juice) in order to expel all the stones from my liver/gallbladder. It seems to me that liver flushing is a form of opening the detox pathways. Now that my liver and gallbladder are decongested, my liver can perform its functions of filtering out toxins, cleaning my blood and regulating my hormones much better than it could before---and those functions that it was acting sluggish on, were all possibly the triggers that caused my acne.
I hope I didn't come across wrong!
I'm very grateful for all of your info, especially since I think this flush in particular will benefit me a lot. I have acne, oily skin and a lot of anger in the past which I think is related to gallbladder issues. While I'm nursing I'm trying to learn more about gentle ways to detox. But when dd2 weans I'll move onto bigger things like these flushes.
 

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If you do something and later realize it mobilized too much (say you get headaches, or body aches, increasing mood issues), a vitamin C flush like this Perque doc describes may help....

http://www.perque.com/pdfs/Pt_Ascorbate_Slush_FIN.pdf

I use these regularly as part of support as I chelate, I got my amalgams out a year and a half ago and have been doing oral chelation since.

Beyond good food, I'd consider a good multi, the process of detoxification uses a lot of nutrients.

If it's possible, a good alternative-type HCP may be able to help you focus what you do based on your situation. Ideally someone could be a consultant, get you going with a few ideas, and then you could check back if you have questions or concerns.

I think pascalite clay is what's most often recommended for internal consumption.
 
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