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So its okay to study the effects of combos on death in Africa, but nowhere else?<br><br><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_aset=V-WA-A-W-ZY-MsSAYZW-UUA-U-AACCAZVZWC-AACWDVCVWC-EEAEBYYEA-ZY-U&_rdoc=6&_fmt=summary&_udi=B6TD4-4J2TRT8-2&_coverDate=04%2F05%2F2006&_cdi=5188&_orig=search&_st=13&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=170bf75a0a1332295359f61d95d0e103" target="_blank">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...59f61d95d0e103</a>
 

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Oh, no, that only applies to <i>Africans</i>, not anybody else in the world! Vax in "civilized" countries are perfectly safe! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll">
 

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Don't even get me started. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shake.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shake"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">First, the Sudan trial is one of the few randomised studies of measles vaccine; the EZ HTMV group had lower mortality between 5 and 9 months of age than controls, the mortality ratio (MR) being 0.00 (p = 0.030). This effect was not due to prevention of measles infection. Second, both studies provided evidence that HTMV per se was associated with low mortality.</td>
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Gee, you think it might have something to do with the fact that the parents are trying to do what is right/healthy for their children. Maybe the parents who show up to get the VAX are more likely to practice other methods of better hygiene/be more educated than their non-vaxing counterparts. :sheesh
 

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There are some totally scary studies going on about vaccines on ClinicalTrials.gov. This study gives me the heebie jeebies:<br><a href="http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00168545?order=33" target="_blank">http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/sho...68545?order=33</a><br><br>
This study will go in in Guinea-Bissau. Here are some striking quotes from the study description:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">It was discovered that children receiving high-titre measles vaccine (HT) at 6 months of age had higher mortality than children who received the standard titre measles vaccine (STD) at 9 months of age. The difference was found only for girls. A study from Haiti confirmed the effect.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">...we have compared the case fatality at the hospital for children who received only OPV and children who received both the prescribed OPV and DTP. Children having received OPV had 3-fold lower mortality than children having received both vaccines.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">In contrast, DTP, HBV and inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) seem to exert a non-specific detrimental effect on child mortality, although the findings on DTP were considered controversial by a recent review. Current studies indicate that the negative effect of DTP may be neutralized by a subsequent measles vaccination.</td>
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This makes me think of that article the other day that pooh-poohed the safety concerns about DTP as being unfounded. I guess there is "no evidence" that the vaccine can be unsafe, hmm? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">
 

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Poor babies.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 
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