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ok...so our son will be 1 on May 11th. up until now he is still in his infant graco carrier.(he is tiny)<br>
yesterday i asked my bf (he is a firefighter..keep this in mind) for the millionth time to install the alpha omega carseat...bc ds is getting big for the carrier. so he calls his cop friend...a "carseat technician" and asked how we should install it. he said since he is almost a year to just put it forward. OK UM NO!!! HE IS ONLY 17 LBS! he was saying that he is close enough to one year and 20 lbs.<br>
i said i dont care! he is facing forward until he is 3! my bf said the cop said no way is that safe....the straps arent made for that?! wtf?! i am NOT lettting my 17 lb one year old face forward, i am sorry! i told him i have been researching and even showed him the youtube video on rear facing...after he saw that he said its bs and there is nothing backing it up..he told me he was sick of my interenet crap and that a carseat technician cop knows better than i do....help please....i know i am right...but he wont listen...<br>
we have been clashing on parenting....vax's, circ, foods, now the carseat stuff! we are seperated for now b/c of all of this...because before i found these boards i was mainstream, and didnt question anything...i thought what we were doing was how things were supposed to be done, but since finding these boards it has really opened up my eyes..and my bf just calls it interent crap...UGH this is so annnoying! what can i tell him about the carseat?
 

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I would just install it myself--don't wait for him to do it and then do it wrong anyway. If he hasn't gotten around to doing it after you asking many times, he probably won't get around to turning it around if he doesn't like it rear-facing.
 

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I think there is a misunderstanding between you about what is legal and what is safest. Yes, technically it is legal to turn your son ffing once he reaches 1 year or 20 lbs. (Actually in some states there isn't even a law requiring that). However, your son will be much safer riding rfing for as long as possible. The Alpha Omega seat you have happens to have a rfing weight limit of 35 lbs! Have your BF read the manual if he doesn't believe you. Also you may want to have him check out this site for some more info:<br><br><a href="http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/stayrearfacing.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/stayrearfacing.aspx</a>
 

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Did you show him the user manual? There are clear instructions on rear facing installation along with weight and height requirements. That is all the evidence you need to show him.<br><br>
I really doubt his cop friend is a licensed car seat technician.
 

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Wow, I'm sorry to hear things are so rough for the two of you. As far as the carseat goes, you are right, RF is safest. There is no way a licensed car seat technician would advise you to put a baby under 20 pounds FF. If he is licensed, then he needs to be turned in b/c the advice he has given you is wrong and dangerous.<br><br>
I'm happy for you (and your DS) that you find yourself practicing AP. It's really too bad your BF can't get on board with it, too. Be strong, Mama, and listen to those instincts- they won't let you down.
 

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My DS was actually scared to drive at night once we turned him front-facing. I think the car lights freaked him out. So that could be one more "point" for your case against early front-facing. Maybe you could sit down and write a list of pro's and con's for each option so that your bf can get his thoughts down. You should at least pretend to be open to his thoughts and feelings if you expect the same courtesy from him. While you are confident about your information that you researched on the internet, he probably feels the same way about his information that he researched by contacting the cop.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My DS was actually scared to drive at night once we turned him front-facing. I think the car lights freaked him out. So that could be one more "point" for your case against early front-facing. Maybe you could sit down and write a list of pro's and con's for each option so that your bf can get his thoughts down. You should at least pretend to be open to his thoughts and feelings if you expect the same courtesy from him. While you are confident about your information that you researched on the internet, he probably feels the same way about his information that he researched by contacting the cop.</div>
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i see where youre coming from...but the thing is, yesterday when i mentioned that the 1 year 20 lb thing was the bare minimum and that it is safer to stay rear facing for longer...he told me i didnt know what i was talking about and that i really shouldnt try to argue with a cop carseat technician...and this guy really is one because i have seen him teaching classes on this. this guy does not see a difference in safety between being rear facing and forward facing past a year old and 20 lbs, and says something about the straps not being made for rear facing after a year old. i really dont know. but i am being told that the alpha omega manual says rear facing until 35 lbs, so hopefully we still have that and he can take a look at it.
 

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Rear facing, no questions. If he won't budge just do it yourself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Just look it up in the manual for your car seat. It probably says the child must be at least 1 year AND 20 pounds before turning the seat forward facing. At least, that's what my car seat manual says.<br><br>
Then show it to him. At least in this state, the law says the car seat has to be used ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTIONS, which sounds to me like it would be illegal to use it the way your bf wants.
 

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Show him this video.<br><br><a href="http://babyproducts.about.com/b/a/257364.htm" target="_blank">http://babyproducts.about.com/b/a/257364.htm</a>
 

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We have an Alpha Omega, it definitely works rear facing. We used it that way for 6 or 7 months while ds was too big for the infant seat but not old enough to turn around.
 

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thanks so much for all the links and helpful info ladies!
 

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20lbs AND one year is the MINUMUM requirement for Forward Facing. I'm not sure where your friend is getting his information. I am sorry that things are so strained between you right now.<br><br>
We are actually waiting until DS is 18m, regardless of his weight (he'll obviously be 20lbs by then, I hope! LOL) b/c I've read that 18m is a more appropriate age for the full development of the spine.
 

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Is there another car seat tech in the area? Take the car and the seat to that person and tell them that you absolutely want him rf'ing...most techs will agree with you so it shouldn't be a problem. And if your bf has a problem with it, tell him he can call YOUR tech to verify that it is safe. You can also find out if that cop is a real tech. Some just say they are techs because they took one class. If he's not, he's automatically discredited. If he is, in fact a CPST, report him. He's handing out very dangerous advice.<br><br>
Sorry, I don't know where to report him, but I'm sure a quick google search will show you.
 

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My Boyfriend is the same way. I am still using my Graco Car seat too. I havent really bugged my BF to much about installing the new one. I like using the Graco infant seat. (but) He is almost to the height and weight limits. I will keep him in it till he reaches it, but it would be nice to know how to install the big ones. (I tried reading the instructions but they confuse me.)<br>
Like today my cousin came into town to surprise me, and I just got back from washington and he spilled everything in his car seat, so I had to wash it.<br>
Well, my cousin wanted to go check into her hotel and go swimming so we had to use the toddler car seat, since the baby seat covers were still really wet. Since I only know how to forward face the car seat, then I had to put him in it forward facing.<br><br>
My BF argues and teases me about stuff I learn about on this message board, he and calls it hippie non-sense or BS. Says that I shouldn't believe everything I read on the web. Especially from a bunch of Granola Bars. (His word for hippy, that is what he is always calling my sister too)
 

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First of all, Cosco seats have a 22# AND 34" limit to ff, your baby isn't even close! Feel free to start a thread at <a href="http://www.car-seat.org" target="_blank">www.car-seat.org</a> and then let him read the responses from the techs who post there. Also check out <a href="http://www.seatcheck.org" target="_blank">www.seatcheck.org</a> for a tech near you. I would also ask your bf if he's seen his friend's tech card? We all have one, but I'm guessing your 'friend' isn't a tech at all, like most cops.
 
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