HELP! Need articles to show mom no repeat circ

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Christiane Northrup is an OB/GYN, who recommends against circumcision, but says for parents who absolutely want to have it done, to cut off as little skin as possible. This is in her March 2005 e-newsletter, which is at http://www.drnorthrup.com/2005-march_eletter.php.

I'm thinking that you could give this to your friend and tell her how lucky she and her son are that the circumcision that her son got was the least damaging.

I hope this wouldn't be too tough a sell, but that's what I would do.

I was disappointed in Dr. Northrup's recommendation for the use of EMLA cream. The AMA has found it basically useless for the circumcision procedure.

It also has to be realized that any circumcision removes the preputial sphincter and the frenulum, the functional equivalent of a female's vaginal sphincter and clitoris and in most cases, these "loose circumcisions" will no longer become so loose after the child's penis grows and the glans is permanently exposed for desensitization from keratinization. There is also a much higher risk that there will be reformation of the natural adhesions and ignorant doctors who will forcibly separate them and tell uninformed parents to do the same causing recurring pain to the child for a long time. There are also ignorant doctors who do not recognize this natural function of the body to repair itself and misdiagnose it and tell parents that the son has to be circumcised later or "The foreskin will permanently grow to the glans."

Even for those physicians who are on our side, there is a huge job for us to educate them about the proper care and diagnosis of the penis.

Frank

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A urologist once told me that there were various forms of male circumcision, and that it was possible to preserve the frenulum. Of course, if a parent wanted that, they would have to be the ones to bring it up to the circing doctor. Because most infant circs are done by an OB/GYN instead of a urologist, I'm not even sure that an OB would know what they were talking about, or know what to do. I also rather think that if a parent happened to be well-informed enough to know how important the frenulum is, they would also be well-informed enough to know that any circumcision was a dumb idea.

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Well, yes, it would be possible but . . . with the current methods used for virtually all infant circumcisions, it isn't. The Mogen and Gomco Clamps and the Plastibel device all require cutting the frenulum so that the bell can fit over the glans and the function of the frenulum is as a stretch receptor. Additionally, the above methods all crush and cut both the frenular artery and the frenular nerve in a manner such that they no longer provide their function and the frenular delta no longer performs as a tactile sensory area. The only way that a circumcision could be performed without destroying both the frenulum and it's sexual functions is by a procedure called the sleeve resection method or freehand method. Generally, this is only used for older boys and adults.

Such a circumcision that preserved the frenulum and it's function would leave the patient appearing that he was not circumcised and he would receive none of the so called "benefits" of circumcision. Just the mutilative aspects of the procedure and the pain. The remnant foreskin would still cover a significant portion of the glans.

Frank

I understand you guys are posting pictures from this guy's site because they show why NOT to re-circumcise or show loose circumcision, but this guy is major Pro-circumcision. Here are some interesting snippets:

"Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:42:08 -0600

Circumcision debate:

Diseases Prevented:

>7,000 cases of Aids

>10,000 cases of syphilis

>20,000 episodes of kidney infection

>1,000 cases of penile cancer

200,000 cases of phimosis (foreskin scared closed)

250,000 cases of balanoposthitis (infected foreskin)

Complications:

2,000 cases of bleeding that can be stopped.

2,000 cases of infection.

300 shaft injury that needs repairing.

1 case of entire penis lost. (same result with cancer)

I recommend it.

Dr. Knapp"

Did he even read what the medical associations had to say about it??

And this one:

"How do you keep the penis clean if your child is not circumcised? How do you keep the penis clean if your child is not circumcised? When you take your baby home, you do not need to do anything special. The foreskin of a newborn cannot be pulled back, and so just by bathing your baby, you are keeping the penis clean. After the baby is I year old, you can gently try to pull back the foreskin while you are bathing him. If the foreskin moves easily, wash the end of the penis and carefully place the foreskin back over the end of the penis. If you cannot pull the foreskin back, don't worry. This is perfectly normal and you can try again in a few months. As your child grows, the foreskin will gradually become retractable. just as you will teach your son to wash his hands and face, you can teach him to clean his penis."


Okay, first he tells you not to do anything special and then turns around and tells you to retract...HUH?

But this one takes the cake!! This is one of the weirdist/sickest I have ever heard:

"If it is a girl, they have mucus coming out of their bottoms for weeks and sometimes it's bloody. That's OK. Spread the small labia so that you can see the entrance of the vagina, cleanse with just water and paper, leave some of the white mucus there, and put a wall of Vaseline between the labia to repel stool away and keep the labia from getting stuck together. This is a common problem in girls and you need to do this for 2 years; or we have to break open the adhesions which bleeds and is painful. There even was a 3 year old girl that had to be put to sleep and have them cut open again. It is common but no one mentions it. Spread them several times every day. Boys have the same problem. If they are circumcised, gently pull the skin back to the ridge of the glans every day and put Vaseline to keep it from getting stuck to the head. If they are not circed, push the skin back to see the tip of the head in the opening of the foreskin, but you do not have to pull it all the way back. We just do not want the tip to scar down to a pin point opening."


What the heck!! Labial adhesions are normal in some girls. Once they start getting estrogen they will release. If parents are really paranoid, they can apply estrogen cream and the adhesions should release. Once the estrogen is stopped they may go right back together again.

And again, there he is telling parents of intact boys to retract!!

Hey, I'm not a pediatrician or anything though, so I guess I don't know everything. (sarcasm intended)

Anyway, IMO, this guy is majorly weird, if not edging toward the "sicko" side and I would be cautious about who we are sending to his website per links. There is lots of misinformation pertaining to circumcision there. You can go there and search circumcision to find the articles I copied and pasted from.

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Pam