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my son is 2 and dentist says he needs floride varnish! how safe is this? he wants to do it every 4 months. He also has a cavity and I want to know if I should do it without any kind of medication ....I think he will be ok with having a drill and such but Im scared has anyone else had a child this young with a cavity? and what did you do? I feel terrible! I cried in the dentist office<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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We had a similar situation and it turned out to be much better than my expectations. I was also devastated to find a black spot on my daughter's molar just after she turned 2. I took her off to a holistic dentist expecting the worst. But, while I was holding her (we were both sort of reclining in the chair), he simply scraped out the cavity (no drill, no injections), which took a few seconds, and filled it with pink glass ionomer. I know the pink glass ionomer is not a perfect substance, but for me the end result was good because a year later it fell out and so I took her to a wonderful holistic dentist in Perth who prodded it and said the ionomer had fallen out and had remineralized the area and it was now hard again and good to be left alone. We were also giving her tissue salts so not sure how big a role that played in remineralization. I remember feeling like you, though, just devastated. Hope this helps a bit though.
 

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thank you so much. There are zero holistic doctors in my area though....Im just confused and sad that this has happened to my son. I dont want to put him through any harm for what I feel is my fault (letting him eat dried fruit). His dentist assured me over and over that he would scrape/file a little bit then put in a perm filling....is this wrong of me to go ahead and do this?
 

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nope. i don't think it's wrong. my son had three cavities in his front teeth by the time he was 1-1/2 and we had them filled. the two between his front teeth grew super fast and i figured those are important cosmetically and for being able to eat.<br><br>
he does have one in his molar that i noticed about a ago but we just don't have the money so we're waiting for insurance to kick in with my job. we've been really on top of brushing (at least once pr day) and we use the sonicare toothbrush. i also have him bite on a q-tip with fluoride mouthwash and then spit occasionally. that one hasn't grown hardly at all in a year. honestly, i wouldn't have waited to fill it except for the money but we're lucky that it hasn't grown.<br><br>
it's up to you to wait and see or fill it. i've heard tons of stuff on both sides of the fluoride issue and i will use it if i can apply it topically to the cavity itself. but i don't give him any to swallow or use toothpaste with it.<br><br>
good luck!
 

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No, it's not wrong of you to have the cavity filled. I absolutely would insist that no mercury ("silver") amalgam fillings be placed in my child's mouth, though. White composite fillings cost more but are far safer, IMO (not perfect, but better than mercury). My kids both have an (apparently inherited) enamel defect which has led to decay in baby teeth in spite of our very healthy, nutrient-dense, almost-no-junk-food diet and good dental hygiene. Don't beat yourself up about this. You can read about what specific foods might encourage decay in susceptible enamel, and about nutritional support to keep tooth enamel healthy. Take a look at the "healing cavities with nutrition" thread here, there's a ton of good info there.<br><br>
I'm personally torn about the fluoride varnish. Fluoride is toxic, and I'm nervous about it getting wiped off before being swallowed or absorbed into tissues. The dentist thinks my toddler (17 mos.) would benefit from it, because he has some teeth that already have significant enamel loss and we're trying to preserve them as much as possible until he's old enough to have work done. I'm taking many other steps, as well, but am leaning towards allowing fluoride varnish on just those 4 teeth. It makes me very nervous, I think fluoride is dangerous, but there is evidence it can help situations like ours when applied topically, and is probably safe if done properly. However, in your case, with just one cavity, I believe I would pass on the fluoride varnish, have the cavity filled, and implement as many of the other non-fluoride options as were feasible, to prevent further problems (for instance, the nutritional recommendations in the thread I mentioned, brushing with xylitol gel, possibly using Recaldent tooth mousse, etc.). The only reason I'm considering the fluoride varnish is because in our case it's pretty extensive absence of enamel in spots, but your case sounds different.
 

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oh! and i can totally identify with the sad/scared feeling! after we found out he had cavities i was a madwoman about brushing and flossing and no "sticky" foods because i thought it was my fault. it does get better!
 

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thank you guys, this has made me feel a little better....I know as moms we tend to beat ourselves up about these things. My husband thinks....whats the big deal! When looking at my sons teeth the dentist said that it seems his back molars dont have enough enamal on them, and having no flouride in the water in our city....he thinks the varnish is the best bet since he can apply it and my son wont swallow it. He also said alot of dentist are applying this to children with teeth that are prone to cavitys. I get the toms of maine toothpaste but that has flouride in it...and he swallows it.....not alot but some....should I not use that either? I just feel like, maybe this is also my fault because they told me to give him flouride drops or he would get cavities , but I refused....now he has one. Any I will look up more info on this matter....thank you all for being so helpful....Oh ya do the silver fillings still have mercury???? I thought they didnt anymore?!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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Cavities aren't caused by a fluoride deficiency. IMO, fluoride supplements are worse than useless. Kids in cities with fluoridated water have the same rates of decay as those without, but higher rates of fluorosis (tooth and bone problems caused by too much fluoride).<br><br>
Yes, silver fillings still contain mercury!!! You may be thinking of the mercury-containing preservative, thimerosal, being phased out of most childhood vaccines. There has been no change in silver/mercury amalgam fillings, and to my knowledge, no change is planned. The ADA stands firmly behind their decades-long assertion that mercury in fillings is safe (I strongly disagree, obviously).
 

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I'm debating over the topical fluoride also. I do not believe in drinking/eating fluoride and unfortunately it is in so many things we eat. I was told by our dentist (non-homeopathic) that fluoride in the water helps with the permanent teeth that are still forming so it does not effect the baby teeth. I have heard/read that topical fluoride could be beneficial to teeth with problems. But I have also heard that it strengths the outside only for the inside to get weak and then produce more chips and cracks.<br><br>
So, I don't know. I haven't put the fluoride gel on my son's teeth yet.<br><br>
-Dawn
 
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