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<p>So I really screwed up and on account of squirming kids on my lap and a general explanation of the form from our doc (whom I trust) I signed the refusal to vax - multiple times - that included the dreaded "bad mommy" line.  After reading a lot of things on MDC last night, I decided to join up to ask you fine ladies for some help.  I want to send a certified letter to our peds office to basically say, "yeah, I signed the form, but I want to officially retract my signature from that one line of each form".  Is it enough to just say something along those lines?  Or do I have to write a lengthy explanation about why we've stopped vaxxing and why I'm not, in our feeling, endangering anyone?  I'd really prefer to keep in short and sweet.  Or am I just adding fuel to the fire?</p>
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<p>PS - we're switching peds b/c the head honcho at our current office "fired" us from the practice b/c he said if we're not vaxxing anymore they wont see us.  The ped within that practice whom we usually see doesn't have an issue with our way of doing thigns.... but the boss does.  They've never threatened anything, just told us it might be best for everyone to find a ped who is more in line with our way of thinking (our nice usual doc relayed that message from the head doc). </p>
 

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<p>If you're switching peds, I would just leave it alone and refuse to sign anything like that at the next office. I would definitely not put anything else on paper about not vaxing for the office that made you sign the bad mommy form.</p>
 

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<p>We're also sending in our "remove from vaccine registry" paper since in our state they're automatically enrolled at birth. It just doesn't sit right with me to leave my signature on a form that basically details abuse/neglect.  I'm wondering if that line is to protect docs and moreso, to try to persuade on-the-fence parents to vax??</p>
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<p>ETA ::  is the main concern with these forms that the ped could start something with CPS?  Or that someone auditing it might start something?  If its with the peds office, I feel ok not writing anything.... but I dont want someone down the line starting something, KWIM?</p>
 

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<p>For your new doctor, feel free to use this one that I composed myself:</p>
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<p><em>"(Name of doctor and/or medical practice) has offered me the opportunity to vaccinate my children, (name of ds1) and (name of ds2); however, both children are exempt from school-entry vaccination requirements in harmony with (my state) Statute (fill in the blank number)."<br><br>
(Underneath that are lines for date and signature.)</em></p>
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<p>For the old one, I would write a <strong>very</strong> brief paragraph stating that you signed the form under duress and wish to retract your signature.  <strong>DO NOT</strong> give any info whatsoever on why you are opposed to vax.<span style="display:none;">ting that  stai </span></p>
 

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<p>Well, you can't go back and un-sign it. If anything you might be able to ask that they forward the form to you or something but I would imagine that they keep the originals on file.</p>
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<p>I don't see what recourse you have without claiming you signed the form under duress, but if you do that you'd better be willing to deal with it if any legal crap gets started at that point. I personally don't think it's worth it. From what I understand the "bad mommy" line isn't legally binding in any real sense, it's just a CYA/intimidation measure on the part of doctors and other agencies. I signed the "bad mommy" form at my daughter's school because they wouldn't take the exemption letter I brought in and I didn't feel like fighting with them on my kid's first day of school. Our state has philosophical exemption, which I claimed, so I know I'm covered and if anything ever happens between myself and the state over my kid's vaccination status I know my rights, and the "bad mommy" clause on a form does not nullify those rights. Your state laws may vary- if you're really concerned about this I would look it up/get a lawyer.</p>
 

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<p>I am new to all this- can someone explain the "bad mommy" clause? I have not gotten any vax yet- and signed a waiver, but now I am confused that I may have signed something I didn't intend to...</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Lillitu</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1285417/help-with-refusal-to-vax-form-letter#post_16137177"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p><br>
I am new to all this- can someone explain the "bad mommy" clause? I have not gotten any vax yet- and signed a waiver, but now I am confused that I may have signed something I didn't intend to...</p>
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Ditto. Only my doc never asked me to sign anything, he justs says whenever I'm ready to let him know. I guess some require waviers and some do not?
 

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<p>I would have left it alone too.Just get your medical files/copies,and move on to the next doctor.</p>
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<p> I have had the same doctor since ds was born 2002,and there was never any bad mommy/no vax paper I had to sign.</p>
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<p>I think if a doctor made me sign it I would leave AFTER I produced an equally obnoxious letter  for the doctor to sign stating if my child were to die from any treatment(or lack of) he/she would be held liable for said injury/death.People die each year due to mis-dx,medications,and so on.We hope the doctor will catch things in time,and the treatment will not kill our children.Signing papers acknowledging the risks is inappropriate.If a doctor does not want to deal with diseases vaxed for then they should just say so.</p>
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<p>Is there a current no-vax form online that all doctors use,or are these written up by the doctor? Just curious as I have not seen one in many years.You could just ask for the original if it bothers you so much.What need do they have for it once you leave.</p>
 
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