[nini02]

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Originally Posted by liliesandliars I am really sorry for the OP's sake that this thread turned into a discussion about pedophilia. I for one never thought of pedophilia, I immediately knew what this thread was about just by looking at the title. People need to pay attention to context (which should be obvious considering the purpose of this forum) and lighten up.

I agree. In any other forum, that title would be strange. Here, it was pretty obvious what the context was, I thought.

 

[knucklehead]

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Originally Posted by perspective All I was saying is there is a difference between the general gender of a pedophile and trying to determine the chances a person standing on the street is a pedophile because he is male. My question was if you would have a different reaction to a adult in a park taking pictures depending on their gender. Of course if there was a man or woman sitting in a park looking at little kids alone and taking pictures, almost ANYONE would find something weird about that. But if there was adult just in the park with a camera, (as photographers are randomly everywhere taking pictures) would you feel more concerned if the photographers gender was male? That was the question I was asking. Men rape women, but women also rape men. (1 in 3 woman have been raped or sexually assulted, while the rate for men is 1 in 22) Both genders cause crime, and death. Granted usually in different ways. (For example most male pedophiles are the creepy guy on the street corner, most female pedophiles are their homeroom teacher.) But to judge people simply by gender is naive. It also limits people in society to more sterotypical roles. A man in a park must be a pedophile, and a woman in a boardroom must be some power hungry witch. Its important to protect kids from stuff in the outside world but because of things we see as odd, not because of assumptions based on gender, race, or whatever. We need to be cautious to protect children, but at the same time not limiting the world we pass on to them.

Whatever, you obviously don't have kids. I'm done.

 

[DocsNemesis]

I LOVE PENISES!!!

Did that break the tension?

No, I mean seriously, back to the topic....

 

[thixle]

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Originally Posted by DocsNemesis I LOVE PENISES!!! Did that break the tension? No, I mean seriously, back to the topic....

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I know exactly what the OP is talking about.
Dh and I were looking in the newborn nursery after one of our friends gave birth and saw a new little boy getting his first bath.
Dh said something like "I don't understand what they think there is to cut off. It just looked... right." It was the first IRL intact penis he had ever seen. A whole baby.

Every teeny part on a new baby is just... perfect and beautiful.

 

[leila1213]

I'm sorry this thread changed course as well. I totally know what the OP is saying. Maybe I'm weird, but I LOVE seeing DD's bottom. Her little butt cheeks and her vulva are just INCREDIBLY cute to me. I used to feel bad about admiring them, because I would have not been able to feel the same way about a little penis. But now, knowing how one is supposed to look and function, I really think I could/would love my son's private parts just as much!

 

[hipmummy]

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Originally Posted by DocsNemesis I LOVE PENISES!!! Did that break the tension? No, I mean seriously, back to the topic....

Thanks!!! Some people just don't get it! This is about boys and their uncut penises nothing else!!!!

 

[SusanElizabeth]

OK -- except -- my husband is Jewish, and it is part of their tradition to circumcise. His penis is to me beautiful. So why does someone have to post "His penis is so beautiful" implying superiority, when it is really just a choice? I understand that the OP thinks that, but so what?

 

[Yulia_R]

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Originally Posted by SusanElizabeth OK -- except -- my husband is Jewish, and it is part of their tradition to circumcise. His penis is to me beautiful. So why does someone have to post "His penis is so beautiful" implying superiority, when it is really just a choice? I understand that the OP thinks that, but so what?

OP just shared something wonderful with us, that's all; she didn't push her preferences on anyone.

As a wife of a cut husband, I'd say that his penis does look good to me, but just because it is HIS penis. Objectively speaking though, cut penis IS abnormal: scared and keratinized, partially desensitized and compromised.
As a mother of an intact boy, I have to admit that I just can't wrap my mind around people finding mutilated penises of little boys pretty.

Kids are perfect the way they are born, the way they are MEANT to be! That is why whole intact penis is the one which is beautiful and NORMAL for us.

 

[latinalonestar]

I tell my dh all the time that I'm so happy ds has a beautiful, intact penis. Just yesterday I said that I hope we have a few more boys so that we can populate the world with more foreskins. lol. Yay for foreskin!!!

 

[latinalonestar]

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Originally Posted by SusanElizabeth OK -- except -- my husband is Jewish, and it is part of their tradition to circumcise. His penis is to me beautiful. So why does someone have to post "His penis is so beautiful" implying superiority, when it is really just a choice? I understand that the OP thinks that, but so what?

Sweetie, you can think your dh has a beautiful penis. No one is taking that away from you.

 

[liliesandliars]

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Originally Posted by SusanElizabeth OK -- except -- my husband is Jewish, and it is part of their tradition to circumcise. His penis is to me beautiful. So why does someone have to post "His penis is so beautiful" implying superiority, when it is really just a choice? I understand that the OP thinks that, but so what?

Considering this is an anti-circ forum, I don't think it's out of place or inappropriate at all for someone to post about how an intact penis is beautiful. So... what do you mean, "so what?" Are we not allowed to express our appreciation of the beauty of an intact penis in an anti circ forum? The OP wasn't bringing down circ'ed penises at all with her story. If you don't want to hear praise for intact penises, then you are very much in the wrong forum.

 

[knucklehead]

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Originally Posted by liliesandliars Considering this is an anti-circ forum, I don't think it's out of place or inappropriate at all for someone to post about how an intact penis is beautiful. So... what do you mean, "so what?" Are we not allowed to express our appreciation of the beauty of an intact penis in an anti circ forum? The OP wasn't bringing down circ'ed penises at all with her story. If you don't want to hear praise for intact penises, then you are very much in the wrong forum.

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[perspective]

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Originally Posted by SusanElizabeth OK -- except -- my husband is Jewish, and it is part of their tradition to circumcise. His penis is to me beautiful. So why does someone have to post "His penis is so beautiful" implying superiority, when it is really just a choice? I understand that the OP thinks that, but so what?

Don't worry. It was not mean't to be taken that way. Heck I am a cut male and I did not even take it that way. There is nothing ugly about your husband's penis. The intactivist movement is about keeping physically AND mentally/spirtually whole. So within the theme of this movement and how I think about this post is making sure people are proud of their own bodies, and to be proud enough of their children's as well and not want to alter a thing.

 

[LavenderMae]

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Originally Posted by SusanElizabeth OK -- except -- my husband is Jewish, and it is part of their tradition to circumcise. His penis is to me beautiful. So why does someone have to post "His penis is so beautiful" implying superiority, when it is really just a choice? I understand that the OP thinks that, but so what?

Unless your dh was circumcised as an adult and with his consent it WASN'T his choice. And newborns do NOT have a choice , it is forced on them.

And the natural penis is beautiful but it's still okay to think a surgically altered one is beautiful. As long as you aren't forcing your idea of a beautiful penis on an unconsenting baby. And sexually altering a baby's genitalia should have never been a parent's choice or about what a parent thinks is beautiful. So for many of us the 'it's a choice' crap just doesn't fly.
And sadly when so many in our culture think a normal penis is gross and ugly it is a relief for someone who bought into the cut is 'better' to discover the normal penis is infact beautiful.

 

[jessjgh1]

I for one, was so happy to click on the thread and see the 'beautiful penis' comment apply to an intact penis-- so often it is a doctor or parents making the comment about a circumcised baby, perhaps that's the context SusanElizabeth is missing.

To hear a doctor on a circumcision training video for a medical school refer to the penis (as his is circumcising) as pretty, is sickening-- yet it happens. And that's just one example of it, parents refer to it all the time-- so for once it was nice to have it refer to an intact penis.

Jessica

 

[DocsNemesis]

Yeah, no one was saying anything negative about circ'd penises....as I said, I love penises, I dont care how they look!!!

Seriously though, my dh is circ'd and I dont care how he looks, I love him no matter what and his penis is beautiful to me because, well, its his.

Having said that, no, I dont think a circ'd infant penis is pretty. In fact, quite the opposite. There is something to be said for seeing a whole baby, regardless of their sex. It just doesnt look....right....at all.

I also agree that all my babies have cute parts.

Esp their little butts. Baby butts are just so cute!!!!

 

[APBTlover]

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Originally Posted by DocsNemesis Seriously though, my dh is circ'd and I dont care how he looks, I love him no matter what and his penis is beautiful to me because, well, its his. ....There is something to be said for seeing a whole baby, regardless of their sex.

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My DH is circumcised, too, but he became an intactivist when I wasn't looking! I never really tried to convert him, I just made it clear that we would have to "discuss" circ if we had a son. Then, one day, he got really passionate about it! I'm not sure why he did, but it makes me

He especially has NO patience with fathers who "just wanted Junior to look like his daddy." DH says he doesn't want his son to wonder what's "missing" down there, like he did as a boy.

I suspect he might really want a son so he can "populate the world with foreskins," as someone else said!

I think it would be healing for him, honestly.

 

[SusanElizabeth]

I apologize for my post. I think the heading looked like a joke to me. But I wouldn't like it if someone posted in a forum that I thought was safe to discuss something with negative comments, so I really am sorry.

 

[mama_at_home]

My dh didn't use those same words but he said "His penis is cool. I'm glad we didn't circumcise him." I think it is really special when circumcised men can see the beauty in leaving their children whole.

 

[Tangled Hill]

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