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Homeless alcoholics welcome at Seattle's experimental housing

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When Brian Steik lived on the streets, the government spent tens of thousands of dollars on emergency room visits and other services to keep the alcoholic alive.

Now social-service agencies are conducting an experiment: Offering Steik and dozens of other homeless drinkers subsidized apartments where they can keep boozing at a fraction of the cost.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3290496

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At the apartment building, residents pay less than $200 a month in rent and must buy their own alcohol. Seventy-five people live there, with more waiting to get in.

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Some residents say the program has helped cut their drinking in half; one person claims to have quit drinking entirely.
What do you think? I suppose that reducing overall costs to taxpayers, while at the same time giving these people a safe and supportive place to live, is beneficial for everybody.
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Many drink, or drink more, because their situation sucks SO BAD. Give them hope and it might just help. I like it.
I saw a PBS special on this. Do what works. They stop drinking. Maybe get a job. Maybe move out. Maybe get a life. Maybe become contributing members to society.

And if none of that happens?

They aren't sleeping on the streets or going to the ER when what they really want is a warm plate of food and a warm bed.
Honestly? I think it's a good idea. It many seem controversial to others, but it sure as heck beats the alternative. I'd rather see my tax money to go fund programs like this, where they actually have hope, than funding jail cells and ER visits which yield little fruit.
wow, a needle exchange and we might almost join the ranks of civiized countries.

of course, dv survivors trying to find affordable housing might get awfully depressed (enough to take up drinking with a vengeance
) to see their ex's hook up the cool digs while they struggle. but life ain't fair.

perhaps a time limit? in a perfect world, i'd hate to see it, but there are going to be WAY more applicants than any city could afford to take on, and it would be nice for others to have a chance.
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I *think* in Tacoma WA, there's a place where drunks (sorry, I can't think of a better term) can be brought to sober up. It's just for the night and is manned by a counselor or a nurse. I'm not sure if there are limits on how often someone can use it......there was a huge article in the paper a few years ago about one guy who'd cost the tax payers of Tacoma over $500,000. My dh was a paramedic there at the time and ran on him a few times.
I think it only goes halfway. They should still have lots of rehabilitative style help available to them. However, the homeless shelters that have the rules of "if you drink, you're out" perturb me. I mean, do we really think that they are drinking by choice?

Please... don't answer that. I know there are lots of people who still believe that someone will drink so much that they lose their entire lives, livelihood and loved ones, yet if they just "want it enough" they will quit...
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Originally Posted by zo's ma View Post
I *think* in Tacoma WA, there's a place where drunks (sorry, I can't think of a better term) can be brought to sober up. It's just for the night and is manned by a counselor or a nurse. I'm not sure if there are limits on how often someone can use it......there was a huge article in the paper a few years ago about one guy who'd cost the tax payers of Tacoma over $500,000. My dh was a paramedic there at the time and ran on him a few times.
A place like that was mentioned in the article - the downside is that you have to be quite drunk to get in. So if you're homeless and need a place to sleep for the night, you'll deliberately drink more just to get in.
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Originally Posted by zo's ma View Post
I *think* in Tacoma WA, there's a place where drunks (sorry, I can't think of a better term) can be brought to sober up. It's just for the night and is manned by a counselor or a nurse. I'm not sure if there are limits on how often someone can use it......there was a huge article in the paper a few years ago about one guy who'd cost the tax payers of Tacoma over $500,000. My dh was a paramedic there at the time and ran on him a few times.
Most cities do have a social detox. I work in a homeless shelter and we send folks there about once a week (in Bellingham).

We want "wet" housing here in Bellingham, too, but they just won't zone for it. City council says the community won't tolerate aiding substance abusers. I guess the community would rather stumble over them passed out on the sidewalks downtown.

One program I like is not only do the chronic substance abusers get housing, but they also get the drug of their choice delivered to their door daily - this way there's less panhandling, less theft, and less chance of accidental overdose. No programs like this in the US (well except for some methadone programs) though.
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