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So Sallie Mae would not send out any info on the loan to us and the loan officer had to order a supplement. Well she got the figure $350, not the $197 that we were told. DP called SM and they told him that is only when they extend the loan to 20 years. They told him they would NOT do it until the deferment is up (screwed again
: ) so we do not qualify for the 72K for the duplex at all and we exhausted every avenue. BUT we do qualify for 60K.

So we went house hunting and found this house

1100 sq ft, 3 bed, 1 bath, built in 1949, stone exterior, .25 acre land, fenced (flat) back yard, garage, and utility room. New carpet and paint, looks fabulous. In a great school district and all for the bargain price of $49,900 (and we got a great rate 4.895) We just gave them asking because we didn't want to get in some kind of bidding war. I'm so freaking happy! This is a really good deal because all the other houses in that price wouldn't pass a FHA appraisal and they are old (-1920) pieces of crap. This house has a really neat layout too. I love the fact that there is a hallway, most of the places that I have lived in went room to room.

The kitchen/dining room has so much cabinet space and is huge. It needs to be updated though. I want to paint the cabinets red and put in a black and white checkered floor. I really love the whole retro look. I wish I could afford the vintage inspired appliances. There is also hardwood under the carpet, seller just didn't want to refinish them, we might someday. We close on May 27th.

So I called the loan officer and basically she told us that if we could get rid of the $3800 loan that would cancel out that debt. I was kind of confused because he doesn't have a $3800 debt. Basically she was considering the car loan that he just paid off into the ratio. With that gone we totally qualify
: So now we CAN get the duplex. I'm soooo freaking happy. Kind of annoyed that she was adding it in all this time even though we produced her with a receipt saying it had been paid in full. She's kind of a airhead a little bit though. Just thinking about all the phone calls we made and all the added stress that could have been avoided....

DP has almost perfect credit, he was totally going to qualify for the loan but we found out that he is a cosigner on someone's student loan. He forgot all about it because he was told that it wasn't approved.

Well we were told no problem as long as it's in deferment for a year. Well it's only in deferment for 8 months. He can put it in forbearance for the additional months that we need it but SM (the student loan co.) won't put it in forbearance until the deferment is up. The bank won't accept that they say that they need it in forbearance and/or deferment before they can process the loan.

They won't consider the rent from the other unit of the duplex as income since he doesn't own the place yet. We were told that either the student loan has to be like $90 or less a month or he needs a cosigner. I highly doubt that since it's a 30K loan This really stinks, you try to do something nice for someone and you get F'd. He can't get off the loan until 24 on time payments have been made.

I have very good job history, no debt, and high income but my credit is not 620 so I don't qualify to be on the loan with him. We really want this place because we already live in it (we don't want to move), it's priced well and it is an income property. This whole situation just stinks!!!

So the options are
  • Try a different lender
  • Get a cosigner
  • Try to lower the monthly payments to less than $90
  • Try to lower the monthly payments and then prepay 24 months to get name off loan altogether (he can borrow the money from his dad to do this)
  • Wait 8 months for it to be done with deferment, put it in forbearance for 12 months then get home loan
  • Try to get smaller loan and just buy a house now
What would you do? Any other suggestions?
 

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How frustrating!

The only other thing that comes to mind is looking at whether it's possible for you to improve your credit score quickly. Do you have high balances-to-limits on your credit cards? Could you decrease those quickly? A credit score can bounce back quickly if it's a changeable problem. If you have a history of late payments etc., those require more time.

It sounds like you've got a lot os possibilities already thought out however...good for you!
 

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How frustrating!

The only other thing that comes to mind is looking at whether it's possible for you to improve your credit score quickly. Do you have high balances-to-limits on your credit cards? Could you decrease those quickly? A credit score can bounce back quickly if it's a changeable problem. If you have a history of late payments etc., those require more time.

It sounds like you've got a lot os possibilities already thought out however...good for you!
I have not had any credit cards in several years and the ones that I did have I paid off with a settlement. I did check my credit report and someone is saying that I owe them from 2004 for Columbia house, I am fighting that because I never ordered anything from them.
 

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I have not had any credit cards in several years and the ones that I did have I paid off with a settlement. I did check my credit report and someone is saying that I owe them from 2004 for Columbia house, I am fighting that because I never ordered anything from them.
That sucks! I had someone steal my identity before and had a lot of things that needed clearing up on my credit report but I must say that the three credit-rating agencies were most cooperative in doing that. I just heard a report on NPR last weekend, though, that talked about how kind of shoddy our current credit-rating system is, and how very much inaccurate information exists on people's credit reports that is very difficult to get removed.
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Have you tried a FHA loan? They might let you slide by with the student loans the way they are since you are dealing with the gov't rather then a private bank that has stricter rules.
 

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Maybe this will be a blessing in disguise. I know it is tempting, but I would not buy a house right now. I do not think that the economy has hit it's lowest point yet. YMMV of course, but I am just trying to point out that this all may be happening for a good reason or that there may be some kind of silver lining.
 

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I am in the process of buying a house (because it's SO much cheaper than renting here), and I have self-employment income that they will not use on the loan because it is less than 3 years of employment. I have a cosigner who has less than stellar credit, but a much higher income. They have us both on the mortgage, just using my credit and the co signer's income. I would check around to see if you can find a lender that can do it that way for you.
 

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8+4=12
Well that only works if I can go back in time 4 months LOL I need it to be deferred for 12 months. It's only being deferred for 8 months now. We can add 4 months on but only after those 8 months are up. The landlord definitely won't wait that long. they talked to the loan officer and are kind of nervous that we won't get the loan.

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Have you tried a FHA loan? They might let you slide by with the student loans the way they are since you are dealing with the gov't rather then a private bank that has stricter rules.
This is an FHA loan. We don't really deal with the government, we are getting the loan from the bank, the FHA part is just insurance from the government.
 

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This is an FHA loan. We don't really deal with the government, we are getting the loan from the bank, the FHA part is just insurance from the government.
Sorry, I must have missed that in the original post. I would say that since this is an FHA loan and they seem to be the only ones lending right now unless your credit is perfect, you might be out of luck. We are closing on a new house tomorrow through a FHA loan and it was a complete nightmare. The hoops that they make you jump are crazy. I asked our FHA loan officer what it would take to get a loan besides a FHA loan right now and his answer was "a credit score over 750 and 20% down, anything less will not due"
 

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Well that only works if I can go back in time 4 months LOL I need it to be deferred for 12 months. It's only being deferred for 8 months now. We can add 4 months on but only after those 8 months are up. The landlord definitely won't wait that long. they talked to the loan officer and are kind of nervous that we won't get the loan.

Okay, so I am totally brain dead since I only got a few hrs sleep. I am misunderstanding. How long will it be--how many months before you can get the loan? I cant believe the owners think their house will sell super duper fast in this market. When is your lease up?

And I agree about FHA doing the hoop thing. Gawd my brother did that and so much drama over an ac unit, yikes.
 

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Are you currently renting the house you plan to buy? Maybe ask the landlord if s/he'd consider being the mortgage holder? That's how my parents did it when they bought their first house - they drew up papers with a lawyer that the previous owners were giving them a loan for the purchase price (I think it was $50K?) and then my parents paid them monthly. It worked out well for both sides - the previous owners were moving to a vaction home they already owned, so they didn't need the whole sale price up front to buy a new place, and they instead got a nice income each month, and my parents got a lower interest rate than they could from the bank, and didn't have to jump through the bank crazy hoops (this was in the early 80's, when inerest rates were over 10% with very strict lending policies) It might be worth approaching the landlord at least, and offer this saying "it's this or we can't buy the house"
 

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Well we tried several things. they said that he can't prepay the 24 payments, she needs to make 24 single payments to get him off the loan.

They won't just get rid of the deferment and put it in forbearance now

Other lenders are saying the same thing (that it has to show that no payment is due for 12 months)

He doesn't want to ask his dad to be a cosigner

With my bad credit the rate for me to be a cosigner would be ridiculous

They won't fix the payments to be any less than what they will be until the deferment is up

Basically we found out that they payments will be $197 a month. He should qualify for a smaller loan at that rate. We are hoping we can get at around 55k then since there are tons of houses for that or less This one for instance I really love http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10...0250441_zpid/# So I guess it wasn't meant to be, I just hate moving and this place is only 3 blocks from work so it was an ideal place to live. Although it's only 680 sq ft so living in a bigger place would be kind of nice.
 

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Are you currently renting the house you plan to buy? Maybe ask the landlord if s/he'd consider being the mortgage holder? That's how my parents did it when they bought their first house - they drew up papers with a lawyer that the previous owners were giving them a loan for the purchase price (I think it was $50K?) and then my parents paid them monthly. It worked out well for both sides - the previous owners were moving to a vaction home they already owned, so they didn't need the whole sale price up front to buy a new place, and they instead got a nice income each month, and my parents got a lower interest rate than they could from the bank, and didn't have to jump through the bank crazy hoops (this was in the early 80's, when inerest rates were over 10% with very strict lending policies) It might be worth approaching the landlord at least, and offer this saying "it's this or we can't buy the house"
They don't want to do that, they want to liquidate now. This guy owns like 120 properties and is selling most of them off for some reason. The other option is to rent now and wait out the 8 months and see if it's still on the market, it very well could be with the economy the way it it now. Maybe not though, it's only 72K with an income potential of $800 a month, so it's a good investment for someone.

I don't want to rent now, I don't really have my heart set on buying this place per se, it was just convenient but if we can't get it, then we can't get it and it's time to move on I guess. I don't know if I'm just really adaptable because I'm not really disappointed.

The property manager did say that we can live here while the house is selling (he made the neighbor move though) He also said that we can buy one of the other homes that is up for sale in our price range. I'm kind of excited about the house hunt now.
 
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