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<span style="color:#0000FF;">I switch from formula to **** milk when my DS was a year old. About 2 days later he had white and i mean white stools. I brought him to the doctors and she said to limit him to 24 oz a day. While I tried that and it just wasn't working. So now I have him on toddler formula and milk and he seems happy. But how good is it for him and is there anything I should worry about? Could there be any long term damage from having to much milk?</span>
 

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Could be that he is lactose intolerant or has a sensitivity to cow's milk. Most paediatricians in Canada recommend that you wait until 2 yrs to switch to cows milk, so I'm surprised your doctor didn't tell you to switch back.
 

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Another thing would be to try organic milk. I know they can't put antibiotics or specific growth hormones in our milk here in Canada, but they can and do put other things... Also, if your ds eats other things like yogurt and cheese, does he really need to drink milk? We've given up drinking milk at our house but we still eat other dairy products and eat leafy greens for calcium.
 

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More than 24 oz is a lot of milk I'd think. How about offering him other liquids to drink, especially water, and concentrate on nutritious foods instead.
 

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actually yes, you can give a toddler too much cow's milk.. too much can interfere with iron absorbtion,<br><br>
check out this article, the part about milk is towards the bottom..<br><br><a href="http://www.drgreene.com/21_121.html" target="_blank">http://www.drgreene.com/21_121.html</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Drinking too much milk makes anemia worse! Excess cow's milk can cause a child to lose iron through the intestines, and can also make it more difficult for the body to use the iron that is present. Most toddlers get sufficient calories and calcium from 16-24 ounces of milk daily. No child needs more than 32 ounces of cow's milk a day. Almost all cases of severe iron deficiency in young children are in those who drink too much milk.</td>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Could be that he is lactose intolerant or has a sensitivity to cow's milk. Most paediatricians in Canada recommend that you wait until 2 yrs to switch to cows milk, so I'm surprised your doctor didn't tell you to switch back.</div>
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That's not true...<br><br>
The current recommendation is to start introducing cow milk at age 1 - regardless of whether or not you're still breastfeeding.
 

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The big risk, as mentioned by a pp, is anemia, but the basic problem with too much cows milk is that it isn't a balanced diet and toddlers who fill up on milk don't eat enough other food to get all the nutrients they need.<br><br>
Our paed. said to keep them on some formula until they were down to 12oz of milk a day. I see 12-16 oz in a lot of places. Even 24oz seems like a lot to me.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That's not true...<br><br>
The current recommendation is to start introducing cow milk at age 1 - regardless of whether or not you're still breastfeeding.</div>
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But...why?<br><br>
IMHO, cow milk may be an okay foodstuff, but it's not a necessity.<br>
We, as parents, must ask ourselves WHY these "recommendations" are made, and who is funding them.<br><br>
I have 5 kids. (and a step daughter).<br><br>
None of my kids drink cow milk, or ever drank cow milk. They are superbly healthy.<br><br>
love, penelope
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">But...why?<br><br>
IMHO, cow milk may be an okay foodstuff, but it's not a necessity.<br>
We, as parents, must ask ourselves WHY these "recommendations" are made, and who is funding them.<br><br>
I have 5 kids. (and a step daughter).<br><b><br>
None of my kids drink cow milk, or ever drank cow milk. They are superbly healthy.</b><br><br>
love, penelope</div>
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As someone whose child has health issue - I find that really offensive.<br><br>
I didn't plan to give my (still nursing 19 month old) cow milk. But when her personality made her too busy to nurse/eat - it was our only option. I tried to pump for her. But I wasn't able to produce anything significant.<br><br>
So, after we tried practically all alternatives, we went with cow milk. She is now MUCH healthier than she was before.
 

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He has no milk allergies. He was tested all tho he was on soy based formula due to premature digestive system. But he is over that now. I try everyday he always has a sippy cup of water and juice around. When he is sick he only wants apple juice and wants nothing to do with milk and vice verse when hes hes no sick.. He is a big eater to.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As someone whose child has health issue - I find that really offensive.<br><br>
I didn't plan to give my (still nursing 19 month old) cow milk. But when her personality made her too busy to nurse/eat - it was our only option. I tried to pump for her. But I wasn't able to produce anything significant.<br><br>
So, after we tried practically all alternatives, we went with cow milk. She is now MUCH healthier than she was before.</div>
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I'm sorry you find it offensive that my kids are healthy without cow milk.<br><br>
???<br><br>
They are also healthy without veal, oysters, and crab meat. Doesn't mean your kid can't be happy, healthy, and fine WITH those things.<br><br>
Don't read your fears into posts.<br><br>
love, penelope
 

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I truly believe that the hormones put into milk by dairy farmers (via the cow) cause all sorts of problems for us. Children are reaching puberty at younger and younger ages.<br><br>
A friend of mine has three kids: 2 have always been avid milk drinkers and one won't touch the stuff. Her two milk drinkers have always struggled with their weight. The non milk drinker is a bean pole. Yes, there could be many factors to explain this, but I find it interesting. I was always a milk drinker growing up and have struggled with my weight for years. We don't drink it anymore and I'll be interested to see if I have an easier time losing weight after this baby is born.<br><br>
I have to agree, humans eating a modern diet with plenty of variety in all likelihood don't need to drink milk. You'll never get Health Canada to tell you that, though, because they are very influenced by the dairy industry (among others). My ds drinks water and still nurses (though I'm only producing colostrum right now) - he's very healthy and I'd no sooner give him milk regularly than I would give him juice.
 

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My kids don't drink cow's milk, they get one glass of soymilk per day if they ask for it. I have heard no more than 16 oz. of milk a day. If he eats well, I'd cut it down to <16 oz. a day, or even none at all. My kids don't get juice, either. They drink lots of water.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As someone whose child has health issue - I find that really offensive.<br><br>
I didn't plan to give my (still nursing 19 month old) cow milk. But when her personality made her too busy to nurse/eat - it was our only option. I tried to pump for her. But I wasn't able to produce anything significant.<br><br>
So, after we tried practically all alternatives, we went with cow milk. She is now MUCH healthier than she was before.</div>
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It's fine that you felt a need to give your DD cows milk due to an extreme situation, but your first post sounded like you thought <b>all</b> breastfeeding 1 yo should get cowsmilk, when <i>most</i> are fine without it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">But...why?<br><br>
IMHO, cow milk may be an okay foodstuff, but it's not a necessity.<br>
We, as parents, must ask ourselves WHY these "recommendations" are made, and who is funding them.<br><br>
I have 5 kids. (and a step daughter).<br><br>
None of my kids drink cow milk, or ever drank cow milk. They are superbly healthy.<br><br>
love, penelope</div>
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Same here. I can count on one hand the number of times my DD has had milk. She likes it OK, but I don't give it because I personally do not think cow's milk is all that healthy. It's probably OK in small quantities, but not any more nutrition than any other food. She's always been extremely healthy, both before and after she weaned at 26 mos.<br><br>
I also totally agree about these new recommendations (which, btw, I had never heard of until now) and finding out who is funding them. The dairy industry has a very powerful lobby. . .makes you go hmmm. To be honest, I wouldn't have given my DD milk for any reason, except for maybe a few extreme cases -- this applies to whether she had been FF or weaned at one year or whatever.
 

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I worry about this. My dd wouldn't/couldn't nurse, so I pumped until my milk was gone at 21 months. She has nevere been abig eater. when my suppyl could not keep up with ehr demand at around 14 months, I supplemented w/ raw goat's milk. Now that my milk is gone, she has sometimes as much as 30 oz of goat milk per day. I try to dilute it w/ water, but am not sure that is good either.<br><br>
She has this powerful need to suck, and I would let her nurse forever were that an option. She won't take water in bottles though.<br><br>
I have only recently begun to think this is a problem (nutritionally and for her health, which has been terrible this past winter since my milk went away), and am not sure what to do about it.
 
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