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if i compare labels, the white flour has more vitamins and other 'good' stuff, compared to whole wheat flour. so what is it bad for you?
 

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There are many trace minerals in whole wheat that are not replaced. Think about this - they are discovering more nutrients all the time, and of course if they don't know about them yet, they can't be replacing them! Also, there's no fiber in white bread, which is necessary for proper digestion and it helps to remove toxins from the body. White flour is high calorie, with very very few nutrients. There are a few of the basic nutrients that do get added in, but overall, it's pretty lacking in nutrition.<br><br>
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Not to mention that synthetic vitamins (the ones they add back into the wheat after they take out all of the natural vitamins) can actually be more harmful than helpful. The body often recognizes them as toxins or doesn't even recognize them at all, and then therefore doesn't use them. A vitamin or mineral is only as good as it's bioavailability -- if your body can't use it, it doesn't matter that it's there.<br><br>
Also, white flour is processed in the body just like sugar. It causes an immediate spike in blood sugar, and the body has to compensate, and then it starts a cycle of that, which can cause insulin resistance and it just goes into a long, unhealthy spiral. Not a good thing.
 

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Ditto everything the PP just said!<br><br>
I keep telling my DH that white bread is just the same as eating sugar but he still likes it better! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br><br>
I don't believe added nutrients can EVER compare with the natural ones that are in whole foods to begin with.
 

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I can't even eat white bread anymore. It's mushy and bland! Give me multi-grain whole wheat bread anyday - something with some body to it!
 

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Another thought I had - I believe that our calorie need tends to exceed our nutrient need, but not by a huge amount. Our bodies can handle a few 'empty calories.' But I personally wouldn't want to waste my allotted empty calories on white bread!<br><br>
I do like a little bit of sugar in my tea, and I sometimes add some brown sugar to chili. Yum! If white bread is your one splurge, then I wouldn't worry about it.<br><br>
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From what I have read white bread and basic store bought wheat bread are basically the same nutritionally. . .many "wheat" breads in the regular store are just a small amount of wheat, added colors and flavors (not to mention the HFCS and partially hydrogenated oils). However if you buy a good whole grained bread or a sprouted wheat bread the nutritional benefits are much greater than white bread!!!! Also when talking about "enriched" foods--it basically means that all the natural nutrients have been stripped from the product and synthetic vitamins have been added. . .I personally would rather have the natural goodness myself!!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I can't even eat white bread anymore. It's mushy and bland! Give me multi-grain whole wheat breat anyway - something with some body to it!</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: My thoughts exactly. I had some white sandwich buns the other day and I literally had to choke it down. It was awful! I do confess to eating white pita bread though, the whole wheat varieties we can get are so DRY! I have to look into a better whole wheat brand of pita.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: My thoughts exactly. I had some white sandwich buns the other day and I literally had to choke it down. It was awful! I do confess to eating white pita bread though, the whole wheat varieties we can get are so DRY! I have to look into a better whole wheat brand of pita.</div>
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Do you have a Trader Joe's? Their ww pitas are delicious, but they don't keep long.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Another thought I had - I believe that our calorie need tends to exceed our nutrient need, but not by a huge amount. Our bodies can handle a few 'empty calories.' But I personally wouldn't want to waste my allotted empty calories on white bread!<br><br>
I do like a little bit of sugar in my tea, and I sometimes add some brown sugar to chili. Yum! If white bread is your one splurge, then I wouldn't worry about it.<br><br>
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ita with the empty calories, and dp is a total chili connoisseur - I'll suggest the brown sugar in his special recipe which he's always adapting (although tonight we got RAVE reviews at his mom's retirement party <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I agree with the previous posters, a good sandwich with lettuce and all the goodies isn't the same on white bread...plus..<br><b><br>
micro-nutrients.</b><br><br>
Who knows what else is in there that they aren't "replacing" with enrichment.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not to mention that synthetic vitamins (the ones they add back into the wheat after they take out all of the natural vitamins) can actually be more harmful than helpful. The body often recognizes them as toxins or doesn't even recognize them at all, and then therefore doesn't use them. A vitamin or mineral is only as good as it's bioavailability -- if your body can't use it, it doesn't matter that it's there.<br><br>
Also, white flour is processed in the body just like sugar. It causes an immediate spike in blood sugar, and the body has to compensate, and then it starts a cycle of that, which can cause insulin resistance and it just goes into a long, unhealthy spiral. Not a good thing.</div>
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Kdmama,<br>
This ties into my recent question about how sugar, corn syrup and highly refined carbs aren't just "empty" calories but they are depleting or outright harmful. They take a toll since the body has to process them.<br><br>
I am looking for a plain English article on this. I've read a variety of books (one or two which were mentioned in responses to the thread I started) but I need something very "readable" for DH. He understands that these are "empty" calories but he continues to give DD1 (and is starting to give DD2) snack foods with high "net carbs" (Carb total in grams minus fiber total in grams). The last time we discussed this he basically told me not to worry "she'll burn it off".<br><br>
Of course she'll burn it off. At the ripe old age of almost 3 years old I'm not worried about that.<br>
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White bread is made from refined flour. Our body doesn't have to process anything that is refined. The factory did it for us already. So white bread is just another highly processed food that our bodies can use for nothing other than storing fat.<br><br>
If you eat a slice of white bread, the body does nothing to convert it to usable energy or derive vitamins from it ( there is nothing to process). They might enrich it with vitamins, but the body doesn't absorb them, so even the enrichment is just a marketing scheme to sway those that don't know better. If you are consuming more calories than you need to, those from refined foods are going to be the first calories that go straight to fat. For whole grains, your body actually burns energy converting (processing) the whole grain to a usable energy and in the process, it extracts the nutrients from the whole grains.<br><br>
White bread is about the equivalent of cardboard.... in nutrition and flavor.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Do you have a Trader Joe's? Their ww pitas are delicious, but they don't keep long.</div>
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Somewhat OT, but my DH makes ww pita. He says they are simple to make and will share the recipe if anyone wants it!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Somewhat OT, but my DH makes ww pita. He says they are simple to make and will share the recipe if anyone wants it!</div>
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I would love this! My kids love ww pita, but I hate buying it from the store when I'm an avid bread maker! Pretty please!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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