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I live in a middle class suburb in a very wealthy county. We live in a quiet neighborhood, comprised almost entirely of families and the elderly. I live in a small cul de sac (3 houses), and know all those neighbors very well, including the families in the two houses on the corner of my cul de sac and the street it branches off of. Both of those houses are families with two young children.<br><br>
About 6 months ago, the house next to one of my corner neighbors got rented to some young males, and the landlord made a comment to the neighbor that "they are partiers." I have never heard any parties or loud music, or anything, so never thought much of it.<br><br>
A few months ago my 5yo was outside our house, and came screaming and running up to our walkway, and I look outside to see a pitbull running after him. Not savagely or anything, but still scaring the beejeezus out of him. A young man comes walking up behind the dog, calling it to get it back on the leash. I told him he shouldn't the dog off leash if it was going to chase small children, and he just kind of ignored me and got the dog out of the cul de sac. It turns out that was one of the guys who lives in the "party" house.<br><br>
A few nights ago, I turn into my cul de sac, and I see a car in the middle of street, and a guy on crutches standing at the passenger window. I had to drive around to the left of them, and kind of slowed down to see what was going on, because it was odd for a car to be stopped in our very small cul de sac. The guy on the crutches moved around to the driver's window, and I continued on to my house.<br><br>
My neighbor on the other corner was over today, and mentioned seeing the guy on crutches (turns out to be another one of the guys in that house) in our cul de sac with two different cars over the past few days. Then this morning, she found an almost empty dime bag of pot right on the street where the cars were. So, it's pretty obvious that he's dealing pot. Now, I think pot should be legalized, so this isn't about the evils of MJ. However, they SHOULD NOT be dealing drugs in the middle of a cul de sac in a family neighborhood.<br><br>
My neighbors and I are trying to decide what we should do. With the pit bulls and the drug dealing, we want them gone. I think we should contact the landlord, but my neighbor doesn't think he'll care. We can't really call the cops because the chances of them happening by when they are dealing is pretty slim. Plus, we're worried about them knowing that we are complaining.<br><br>
What would you do? What liability does the landlord have if he knows his tenants are dealing drugs in the neighborhood, if any? Will the cops knock on their door just to tell them they are aware of suspicious activity? Would you leave an anonymous letter in their mailbox telling them to take their business out of the freaking cul de sac?<br><br>
I'm pretty tweaked about the whole thing. We moved out of the city to not deal with this kind of crap.
 

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Know that you CAN call the police. Just because the police probably are not going to witness a drug deal doesnt mean they wont find drugs in the house. I think it's pretty crappy to call the police over marijuana but if youre worried about neighborhood safety then you do what you have to.<br>
Animal control can be called and reported the dog incident, you may need more than one neighbor to back you up on it, thats how it is in my state. The house will likely receive a written warning about it...<br><br>
How about zoning laws? How many unrelated adults are allowed to rent a house in your county? In ours it's no more than two so check the zoning laws and report a possible violation.<br><br>
Thats all I can think of...<br><br>
If you dont think the residents potentially dangerous to you, you could always try a friendly talk about the dog. Let them know it frightened your son and that you just *love* dogs but please dont let it happen again. Be super nice... Dime bag could be from anyone frankly, the neighbors teen kids are just as likely suspects ;P
 

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I'd become the overly-friendly/ nosy neighbor. If there was a car stopped on the street, even if the neighbor was talking to the person through the window, I'd walk over and ask if they needed directions or were lost. If they said no, then I'd just stand and watch or mention that, if they're friends, the person in the car should park and go into the house rather than block traffic. Then I'd stand around with a smile on my face and watch and wait a little longer.<br><br>
If you only saw the dog off the leash once, I wouldn't worry about it.<br><br>
If another dime bag is dropped, you could take it to their house and ask if they forgot something.<br><br>
It may not make them leave or stop dealing drugs, but they might become more careful so as to bring less attention on themselves if they know they're being watched by the neighbors.
 

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I think you could have some decent luck with the landlord by letting him know that he will be liable for any injury or death caused by the pitbull.Could send a general letter without your name,or have a lawyer write up something.Yes,the owners are liable but the landlord could also be sued if he knows about the dog chasing children.I know some dog breeds will get you dropped by insurance companies,or they will charge you an arm/leg.<br><br>
In the least they will hopefully leash the dog.<br><br>
It would not hurt to report the lose dog to AC if it occurs again.Also a report to the police on possible drug activity.They may do a drive by to get a bag.They push DARE,so you would want to impress on them that a CHILD could have gotten the pot in the road.
 

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Our police have a non-emergency number that I use quite frequently to report disturbances, vandalism and curfew breaking teens. Get to know yours.
 

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If you report it to the police, they will quite possibly drive by a little more frequently and a little more slowly which could well dampen your neighbor's activity... And maybe a word to the landlord asking him to remind his tenants to keep their dog leased would be in order.
 

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I'm not in the least bit sure how a nearly-empty dime bag where I car was stopped equals drug dealing (drug using, sure), but whatever.<br><br>
Honestly, having been a renter of 'the party house' I'd just go knock on their door some time, probably betwen, oh 11:30 am - 2 or 3 pm and remind them that there are little kids who live around here, and you really don't have a problem with them, but their dog is kinda scary and you'd really rather not have to explain to your 5 yr old what marijuana is, yk? And I'd hand over the nearly-empty dime bag while I was at it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> Chances are, they'll be a: highly embarrassed and b: super respectful and c: it will *NOT* happen again <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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If they were just smoking pot, I wouldn't care. And if they want to sell their buddies some baggies, fine, but do it in their house. But they aren't - they are walking 2 doors down to meet different people in the street, which happens to be the cul de sac. And there aren't any teenagers in the immediate area - all the kids are 10 and under. My neighbors saw him there with two different cars, and I saw him there with a third different car, and all of a sudden there's a baggie there the next morning. Our kids play there all the time, so we would have seen it before. The activity looked suspicious to begin with, and in the 8 years my other neighbors have lived here they've never seen anything like this before.<br><br>
My other neighbors and I are a bit worried about knocking on their door - we don't know them, and we don't know how they'd react.<br><br>
I think I'll call the police and ask that they knock on their door and ask about suspicious activity in the neighborhood. Maybe my neighbors and I can leave an anonymous note asking them to keep their activity in their house.
 

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Personally, I'd knock on the door, or talk to them when they're outside.<br><br>
"Hey guys, we've got a lot of little kids around here and I'm worried about the traffic. If you're gonna deal pot, please do it somewhere else or have them walk up to your door. I don't want my kids viewing it and I don't want stoned people driving near my kids."<br><br>
If they listen, great. If not, call the cops. I don't care if people use pot, I <i>do</i> care if they use pot and drive.
 

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My neighborhood isn't half as schmancy as yours, and if there were loose dogs chasing kids, or a lot of slow traffic meeting with people in the street (or even stopping at a house and then leaving within a few minutes many times a day) a bunch of the neighbors would be on the phone with the police. I don't understand why you would hesitate to call the police if you have good reason to suspect your neighbors are dealing.<br><br>
There's no reason a dime bag left in the street couldn't be the dropped property of a senior citizen, or another adult in the neighborhood, but multiple interactions with through traffic on a cul-de-sac is highly suspicious. Maybe it's just because I live in the kidnapping capital of the US, but I do not think of drug dealers as decent people, and I do not want to live near them and the higher rates of crime and violence with which they are associated. When the day comes that pot is legalized, people still won't be allowed to sell it out of their homes.<br><br>
I would call the police non-emergency number.
 

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If your neighborhood is as affluent as you say I cannot believe the police would not immediately be on this if you report it. Just call.<br><br>
I'd be hesitant to talk to them because you don't know if they'll retaliate - especially if it escalates and you do need to call the police.
 

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I also think you should talk to the neighbors- let them know you're not ok with their dog running loose. If they are in fact drug dealers (which is a pretty big leap from your post), they would probably want to make sure they don't piss off the neighbors and get the police knocking on their door for something as stupid as a leash law violation. Trying to get people kicked out of their home based on the 2 incidents you mentioned is pretty severe.
 

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I'd start by talking to other neighbors, and making sure you're supported in not wanting these things happening in your neighborhood.<br><br>
If these are otherwise non-threatening young men, I think I might have several of the other men in the neighborhood go over and have a friendly chat as the other posters have suggested. I wouldn't go by myself.<br><br>
Loose dog again, I'd call animal control.<br><br>
Behavior that looks like drug dealing. I'd cal lthe non-emergency line at your local police station. If they're aware, they may adjust patrols to swing by your street more often, and that might take care of such behavior by itself.
 

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As far as the dog goes, my dog (lab mixed with probably poodle) ran up a hill and under a fence to the street and barked at someone with a baby stroller. I'm still pissed at him. It was very upsetting, and I apologized immediately as they should have! These things can happen with animals though, and if it was just ONCE I don't think it would be appropriate to call animal control, particularly if the dog was not aggressive. If a dog is aggressive then even once is too much, but we all make mistakes and I think it would be unneighborly to call animal control if this is a rarity. Not sure what to do about the drug dealing, but not cool on a family cul de sac no matter what the drug is!
 

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I'm pro mj too....and I really cant figure out what an empty dime bag would be or look like.....just an empty baggie?? That doesnt seem like such a big deal to me at all, (a used condom, or even a baggie with something actually in it...yes..but...)<br>
but if I ever saw the dog off leash again I would call animal control!! I had a situation once, where my neighbor's two rotti's would get out and roam the neighborhood, bark at me on my own property, and I had to call several times in the long run...but eventually it worked out in my favor. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
If they are dealing to a degree where there is much increased traffic in your cu-de-sac then I would definitely call the landlord and stress *that*, but don't speculate.....the increased random traffic is the real culprit. Who lives in a cul-de-sac and wants a lot of traffic? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"><br><br>
ETA: I would also stress to the landlord that if he doesn't follow up, you will file a complaint.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm pro mj too....and I really cant figure out what an empty dime bag would be or look like.....just an empty baggie?? That doesnt seem like such a big deal to me at all, (a used condom, or even a baggie with something actually in it...yes..but...)<br></div>
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First of all, I can't imagine walking up to the house of a possible drug dealer and asking them not to deal drugs in the neighborhood. You have no idea what these people are capable of...they could be a youthful party house but that doesn't necessarily make them harmless.<br><br>
In this situation, I would first call the landlord and tell them about the activity and then see how it goes. If they have more traffic, than I would certainly call the police.
 

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That's what I get for reading fast...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Pot smoking aside, the pit bull would put me over the edge! I am a vegetarian, dog lover, but those are dangerous. Call animal control and keep your kids away. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Pray! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/praying.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="praying"><br><br>
I have some neighbors who own pit bulls....funny how they seem to be similar to yours.<br><br>
I pray a lot for them! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 
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