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DD has recently decided that she's only going to sleep 9.5-10.5 hrs a night, although she NEEDS about 12 hours of sleep a night (otherwise she's cranky and hyper). It doesn't matter what time she goes to bed, when 9.5 or 10.5 hours is up, she's up, even if it's 4:30 in the morning. Her normal bedtime is 7 pm, although a couple of nights a week we have church in the evenings and she doesn't get to bed until 9 or so.<br><br>
I have tried everything I can think of to help her sleep longer. She has a fan in her room for white noise, and I've put a blanket over the window to help it stay dark. She sleeps in her own room...I used to be able to bring her back in bed with me after her early morning night waking but now she is wide awake if I do that, or cries and wants to go back into her room. If I just hold her and nurse her in the rocking chair in her room like I do for all her other night wakings, she won't go back to sleep, or if she does and I put her down, she wakes up in a few minutes.<br><br>
This is getting really, really, really old. I'm tired of her being tired, I'm tired of being tired, I'm tried of trying to help her sleep better, and I'm tired of dealing with a hyper cranky toddler. She does have some food intolerances but I believe I've discovered all of them and we're not eating any of them.
 

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I'm reading 'sleepless in america' right now and it's very intresting. The author would say (and I would tentatively agree) that switching her bedtime around for church isn't working for her.<br><br>
I think you have to back into an early risers wake up time. by that I mean - my son generally won't sleep past 7am. So I have to respect that and make sure he's down by 7. Lately he's been taking a good second nap and so then I can put him down at 9.<br><br>
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I've read that as well, and that's why I gave her a 7 pm bedtime as she generally won't sleep past 7 regardless of what time she goes to bed. It worked fine for a while but not anymore. I have tried skipping church but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
 

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does she nap still? looks like she needs 13 hrs avg per day. DS used to need 12 at night but more recently it's gone to 10-11 hrs.<br><br>
sorry i can't help more!
 

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She naps 1.5-2 hrs, the same amount as she did a few weeks ago when she was sleeping 12-12.5 hrs a night.<br><br>
I'm beginning to think it's a lost cause with her...I'm waiting for the day when I can just give her a bunch of toys and she can entertain herself at 4:30 in the morning!
 

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I don't know if this will help, but is your room absolutely, completely dark? We have super dark velvet curtains, but my DD would still find the one teeny tiny crack of light and be wide awake at 5am. What I finally did was put cardboard on the windows--I just taped it to the panes (I've heard of people doing the same with tin foil). It sounds kind of crazy, but it really makes her sleep longer in the morning.
 

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Are there any external factors beside sleep that could be affecting this. are ther any transitions going on? is she growing? any developmental milestones? i have found these things to slter sleep patterns so much, and once other things settle the sleep comes back too. you may just have to ride it out.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't know if this will help, but is your room absolutely, completely dark? We have super dark velvet curtains, but my DD would still find the one teeny tiny crack of light and be wide awake at 5am. What I finally did was put cardboard on the windows--I just taped it to the panes (I've heard of people doing the same with tin foil). It sounds kind of crazy, but it really makes her sleep longer in the morning.</div>
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There is still a bit of light coming in, but...in the last 4 days she's woken once at 4 am and once at 4:30 am and it's still pitch black outside then. Maybe I can find some cardboard, though...it's worth a try.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Are there any external factors beside sleep that could be affecting this. are ther any transitions going on? is she growing? any developmental milestones? i have found these things to slter sleep patterns so much, and once other things settle the sleep comes back too. you may just have to ride it out.</div>
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No transitions, as far as I can tell she's not going through a growth spurt...she's just learned to climb but the current sleep problem predates that by a couple of weeks. It'd be nice if it was a transient thing but there's always some sleep issue with her--as soon as one goes away or improves, something else pops up to take its place<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banghead.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banghead"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banghead.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banghead"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banghead.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banghead">
 
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