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My 17 month-old DD has been napping around noon for the past few months. However, this week, she's started napping around 2:00 pm. But, she begins looking tired much earlier. We'll be at the playground/library/store in the morning, and she'll be showing signs of being tired. So, I bring her home and put her in bed (we co-sleep) and try to nurse her to sleep, and that's when the acrobatics begin. She twists and turns, sits up, giggles, and talks until she decides she's "all done" with milk. So, we go and have lunch and play for a while, and then I try again. Sometimes she falls asleep on the second try, and sometimes it's the third. She goes back and forth from having fun to looking and acting tired this whole time. It wouldn't bother me at all if she didn't look and act tired. I'm just wondering if any other Mamas have experience with this one. Thanks!
 

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My ds is 19 months old and did the same thing over the summer. Its kinda strange,even the time of day is similar. We just worked our way through it and tried to get very settled down before I would even attemt to put him to sleep. From what I understand this is a tough age for many. My ds seems to be starting to outgrow his naps already <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bouncy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bouncy"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Wish I could offer suggestions unfortunately I never found one just had to go with the flow. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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My son- now 21 mths- used to nap from 11 am - almost 2 this summer. It was so weird. And makes for either an early or really late lunch!<br>
But just recently he has switched to taking a nap about 12:30 or 1 til 3 or 330. He sleeps at night from 8pm-8am. He just started sleeping through the night about a month and a half ago. Whew!<br><br>
I know he is tired by the way he acts. Yawning, rubbing his eyes. Getting easily frustrated when toys dont do what he wants immediately. Whining, laying around.<br>
Sometimes he will get his pillow and lie down in the floor. He loves a pillow :LOL and lays on it and goes " ahhhhh" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Yeah, he's cute <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
Anyway, my son doesnt always know that what he is feelling is tiredness. I have to help him! some people do child led naps but i still feel he needs to learn that he is grumpy, whiney, etc because he is tired.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
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My kids do this too. Children are amazingly talented at keeping themselves awake when they dont want to sleep and miss out on the fun. But that doesnt mean they are not tired.<br>
My three are all tired between noon and 1, but they dont always fall asleep right away because they dontwant to give in to the sleep.<br>
I just follow the sleep signals. If they are yawning, rubbing their eyes, playing lying down, or playing with their hair they are tired whether or not they are ready to admit it.<br>
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Same deal here. I gave up believing there would be a nap every day about 3 months ago, she is 22 months.<br><br>
The only way I know for sure that she is going to go to sleep is when she falls asleep nursing. I might think she is tired and try several times to get her to sleep but 90% of the time she just goofs around.<br><br>
On the plus side, the days she doesn't nap she goes to bed at 7, lol.
 

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I know Julia is ready to sleep when her tolerance for frustration starts to get really, really low. Like when she's just had a good sleep, if she can't get a block to balance right on another block, she'll try again or ask for help. When she's tired, she'll start to whine or even have a meltdown. If I wait until she's at the rubbing her eyes stage, then she's overtired and won't fall asleep without a major battle.
 

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Thanks, Mamas, for the responses. So, how do you convince them to go to sleep when they're obviously tired but don't want to give up on having fun? My DD will nurse for a while, and then start wiggling around and then finally sit up and ask to play. If I try to get her to lay back down, she'll just do the same thing again. Should I let her get back up and play for a little while, or should we just stay in bed and keep trying, even though it could take quite a while?<br><br>
Today she napped from 2-4:30 (I had to wake her up to go pick up DH from work) but didn't want to go to bed until 9:30. I don't want to have her on a schedule necessarily, I just want to be doing what's best for her. Should I let her decide when she wants to nap, or should I just lay there with her and encourage it (of course, without letting her get too upset)?<br><br>
Thinking about it, we used to have a similar problem at night. She would wake up in the middle of the night wanting to play. I actually did get up with her a few times, but after staying up until 4:00 am one night, I decided there had to be a better way. What we ended up doing was just laying with her in bed, trying to get her back to sleep (even if it took an hour or more). She never got upset, she just wanted "up, up, up!" After a few nights of this, she stopped waking up to play for the most part (although she did do it for the first time in a long time last night).<br><br>
Should I just try a similar strategy? Stay with her in bed until she falls asleep (that is, when I know she's tired)?<br><br>
Sorry if this is confusing. I guess I'm thinking out loud so to speak! Thanks for all your feedback. It's good to know that I'm not the only one experiencing this!
 

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Yes that is what I'd do.<br>
When my now 3 year old fights sleep I tell him he has to lie on his bed (but he can have a toy) and I will lie next to him and read a book or magazine. It just bores him right to sleep. He will fight it if I want to get up badly enough to let him up too. But if he knows I am resigned to stay there for the duration the fight doesnt last long.<br>
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My daughter's a bit younger (15 months), but at nap time, if she doesn't go down in bed, I put her in the sling and walk around with her. It usually works if the other doesn't. If that doesn't work, I assume she's not ready for sleeping and she'll play awhile longer.
 

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We have been doing child-led naps and bedtime since DS was about 15 months old -- it is wonderful for us. DS comes and asks to nurse (and sometimes leads me to the bed) when he is ready to sleep. He always falls asleep very quickly (a few minutes of nursing) since he is really ready for sleep. He does sometimes seem tired before he is ready to sleep, but I can only think of a few instances in the months we've been doing this that he's gotten really overtired and I've stepped in and encouraged a nap by taking him for a run in the jogging stroller or a ride in the car. His naptime is quite variable -- if he has a morning activity like playgroup, he usually falls asleep on the way home around 11 am. If we are home all morning he usually doesn't go to sleep until 12-1, though sometimes he'll wait until 2 or 3 pm. The timing of the naps doesn't seem to affect his bedtime. He goes to bed around 9:30 most nights and sleeps until 7:30-8:30 (he does wake several times to nurse). He seems really well rested and happy so I know it's working for him, and I love not worrying about whether or not I should be trying to make him sleep (as if that were possible). I guess there are probably kids who need more guidance, but child-led sleep is so easy and pleasant if it works for your child.
 
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