this is just for moms who have chosent dtap. How did you arrive at your decision? I'm debating, but want to hear from people who have chosen it. I will not criticize your choice----I'm just on the fence and need to hear form the moms who did it. Thanks,
how did you decide to do DTap?
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DS isn't vaxed yet, but I'm considering the Dtap at 6, 9, and 12 months. I then plan on doing the Hib at 15 months and the Prevnar at 24 months.<br><br>
I'm aware that the vax is not 100% effective, but whooping cough scares me. I'm still debating whether or not to go through with it. It's so hard to make these decisions sometimes! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
I'm aware that the vax is not 100% effective, but whooping cough scares me. I'm still debating whether or not to go through with it. It's so hard to make these decisions sometimes! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
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<div style="font-style:italic;">DS isn't vaxed yet, but I'm considering the Dtap at 6, 9, and 12 months. I then plan on doing the Hib at 15 months and the Prevnar at 24 months.<br><br>
I'm aware that the vax is not 100% effective, but whooping cough scares me. I'm still debating whether or not to go through with it. It's so hard to make these decisions sometimes! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:</div>
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Just an FYI..<br>
The risk for invasive Hib disease peaks around 6-7 months, and pretty much goes away in the second year of life.<br>
I'm pretty sure it's the same for invasive pneumococcal disease.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">DS isn't vaxed yet, but I'm considering the Dtap at 6, 9, and 12 months. I then plan on doing the Hib at 15 months and the Prevnar at 24 months.<br><br>
I'm aware that the vax is not 100% effective, but whooping cough scares me. I'm still debating whether or not to go through with it. It's so hard to make these decisions sometimes! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:</div>
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Just an FYI..<br>
The risk for invasive Hib disease peaks around 6-7 months, and pretty much goes away in the second year of life.<br>
I'm pretty sure it's the same for invasive pneumococcal disease.
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For invasive Hib meningitis, yes... but what about epiglottitis? this is another scary thing that the Hib vaccine (supposedly) prevents.<br><br>
I have not vaccinated ds at all yet... but I still may do the ONE Hib at 15 months, because epiglottitis can happen anytime. I read one book that said it peaks after age 2.<br><br>
Just playing devil's advocate here... no one ever mentions epiglottitis in relation to the hib vaccine here, and I just have wondered about it myself.<br><br>
dtap is another one that I keep going back and forth over. My son is 14 months, so I might consider it. Every time he gets sick... I just worry.
I have not vaccinated ds at all yet... but I still may do the ONE Hib at 15 months, because epiglottitis can happen anytime. I read one book that said it peaks after age 2.<br><br>
Just playing devil's advocate here... no one ever mentions epiglottitis in relation to the hib vaccine here, and I just have wondered about it myself.<br><br>
dtap is another one that I keep going back and forth over. My son is 14 months, so I might consider it. Every time he gets sick... I just worry.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">For invasive Hib meningitis, yes... but what about epiglottitis? this is another scary thing that the Hib vaccine (supposedly) prevents.</div>
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It's true for ALL invasive Hib disease. It has to do with the way immunity to Hib develops.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">For invasive Hib meningitis, yes... but what about epiglottitis? this is another scary thing that the Hib vaccine (supposedly) prevents.</div>
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It's true for ALL invasive Hib disease. It has to do with the way immunity to Hib develops.
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And epiglotittis was never exactly "common", unless you consider one in 100,000 type odds common.<br>
And check out the MMWR in invasive Hib now...a grand total of 7 cases in 2005, and 0 in 2006.<br>
The Hi strains that are doing the nasty stuff now aren't in the vaccine.
And check out the MMWR in invasive Hib now...a grand total of 7 cases in 2005, and 0 in 2006.<br>
The Hi strains that are doing the nasty stuff now aren't in the vaccine.
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Okay, good. I am glad that I asked. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"><br><br>
It just seems that the only thing brought up in regards to Hib is meningitis, and that's not the only thing that Hib vaccine is meant to prevent, although most people seem to think so.<br><br>
Thanks for that info.
It just seems that the only thing brought up in regards to Hib is meningitis, and that's not the only thing that Hib vaccine is meant to prevent, although most people seem to think so.<br><br>
Thanks for that info.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just an FYI..<br>
The risk for invasive Hib disease peaks around 6-7 months, and pretty much goes away in the second year of life.<br>
I'm pretty sure it's the same for invasive pneumococcal disease.</div>
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Thanks for the info! I'm now leaning on taking these out of our schedule and pushing DS's vaxs out until he's 12 mo. This decision is so <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: !
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just an FYI..<br>
The risk for invasive Hib disease peaks around 6-7 months, and pretty much goes away in the second year of life.<br>
I'm pretty sure it's the same for invasive pneumococcal disease.</div>
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Thanks for the info! I'm now leaning on taking these out of our schedule and pushing DS's vaxs out until he's 12 mo. This decision is so <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: !
I've made the decision to go forth with the Dtap this week. My kids are 9, 4 and 2 and they have had no vax so far.<br><br>
We live in a county that has the highest unvax percent of kids in California. Whooping cough used to come through every three to five years. Now we are seeing a larger outbreak every year. I spoke with my midwife yesterday ( she is serving several families who have it currently ) and she encouraged me to reconsider. I've talked to moms with kids who had and they all agreed it was awful.<br><br>
And, yes, they all lived through it but . . . I don't want to. And, although it is good to groovy and all natural, it is also good to know where you personal comfort level is. It has been difficult to arrive at the choice - frankly, I hoped I've never really feel forced to make it. My younger two don't even know what a "shot" is. I do feel like I am between a rock and a hard place.<br><br>
So far this is the only vax I have seriously considered.
We live in a county that has the highest unvax percent of kids in California. Whooping cough used to come through every three to five years. Now we are seeing a larger outbreak every year. I spoke with my midwife yesterday ( she is serving several families who have it currently ) and she encouraged me to reconsider. I've talked to moms with kids who had and they all agreed it was awful.<br><br>
And, yes, they all lived through it but . . . I don't want to. And, although it is good to groovy and all natural, it is also good to know where you personal comfort level is. It has been difficult to arrive at the choice - frankly, I hoped I've never really feel forced to make it. My younger two don't even know what a "shot" is. I do feel like I am between a rock and a hard place.<br><br>
So far this is the only vax I have seriously considered.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">We live in a county that has the highest unvax percent of kids in California. Whooping cough used to come through every three to five years. Now we are seeing a larger outbreak every year.</div>
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Actually, this isn't true. The epidemiology of whooping cough has <b>not</b> changed. It still runs on a three to five year cycle and there <i>aren't</i> more cases now than there were ten years ago. It's just diagnosed more commonly, since the CDC put the word out for doctors to start suspecting pertussis any time someone had a cough lasting for longer than two weeks. Prior to that, pertussis was almost <i>never</i> diagnosed in people who didn't have the classic whoop - which is what happens in most healthy children and adults over age 8 or 9. Only young children and older children/adults with other health problems regularly have the whoop. The CDC just made that announcement within the past 12 months. Whooping cough hasn't changed or become more common. Doctors just recognize it more now that the CDC told them they've been misdiagnosing it as bronchitis, asthma and allergies for the past 30 years or so.<br><br>
I'm glad you've made a decision you're comfortable with. I just think it's important to be very clear about what's actually happening here. I don't want other people reading this to be convinced to vaccinate based on the fear that pertussis has become more common and more likely to affect their children, when in fact that is absolutely false. If someone believes the pertussis vaccine works and that their children need it, then I respect that decision, but I don't want anyone to make it based on false information.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">We live in a county that has the highest unvax percent of kids in California. Whooping cough used to come through every three to five years. Now we are seeing a larger outbreak every year.</div>
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Actually, this isn't true. The epidemiology of whooping cough has <b>not</b> changed. It still runs on a three to five year cycle and there <i>aren't</i> more cases now than there were ten years ago. It's just diagnosed more commonly, since the CDC put the word out for doctors to start suspecting pertussis any time someone had a cough lasting for longer than two weeks. Prior to that, pertussis was almost <i>never</i> diagnosed in people who didn't have the classic whoop - which is what happens in most healthy children and adults over age 8 or 9. Only young children and older children/adults with other health problems regularly have the whoop. The CDC just made that announcement within the past 12 months. Whooping cough hasn't changed or become more common. Doctors just recognize it more now that the CDC told them they've been misdiagnosing it as bronchitis, asthma and allergies for the past 30 years or so.<br><br>
I'm glad you've made a decision you're comfortable with. I just think it's important to be very clear about what's actually happening here. I don't want other people reading this to be convinced to vaccinate based on the fear that pertussis has become more common and more likely to affect their children, when in fact that is absolutely false. If someone believes the pertussis vaccine works and that their children need it, then I respect that decision, but I don't want anyone to make it based on false information.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Actually, this isn't true. The epidemiology of whooping cough has <b>not</b> changed. It still runs on a three to five year cycle and there <i>aren't</i> more cases now than there were ten years ago. It's just diagnosed more commonly, since the CDC put the word out for doctors to start suspecting pertussis any time someone had a cough lasting for longer than two weeks. Prior to that, pertussis was almost <i>never</i> diagnosed in people who didn't have the classic whoop - which is what happens in most healthy children and adults over age 8 or 9. Only young children and older children/adults with other health problems regularly have the whoop. The CDC just made that announcement within the past 12 months.</div>
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Not disagreeing or trying to stir anything up here, but do you have links to that information so I can read up on it firsthand? Is it on the CDC Web site somewhere? Thanks!
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Actually, this isn't true. The epidemiology of whooping cough has <b>not</b> changed. It still runs on a three to five year cycle and there <i>aren't</i> more cases now than there were ten years ago. It's just diagnosed more commonly, since the CDC put the word out for doctors to start suspecting pertussis any time someone had a cough lasting for longer than two weeks. Prior to that, pertussis was almost <i>never</i> diagnosed in people who didn't have the classic whoop - which is what happens in most healthy children and adults over age 8 or 9. Only young children and older children/adults with other health problems regularly have the whoop. The CDC just made that announcement within the past 12 months.</div>
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Not disagreeing or trying to stir anything up here, but do you have links to that information so I can read up on it firsthand? Is it on the CDC Web site somewhere? Thanks!
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not disagreeing or trying to stir anything up here, but do you have links to that information so I can read up on it firsthand? Is it on the CDC Web site somewhere? Thanks!</div>
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<a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/115/5/1422" target="_blank">http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...act/115/5/1422</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not disagreeing or trying to stir anything up here, but do you have links to that information so I can read up on it firsthand? Is it on the CDC Web site somewhere? Thanks!</div>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">In the prevaccine era pertussis epidemics followed a cyclic pattern, with peaks every 2 to 5 years. With the marked reduction of pertussis by vaccination, <b>the same cyclic pattern still occurs</b>. Studies relating to reported pertussis and Bordetella pertussis infection have been reviewed and analyzed. The <b>increase in reported pertussis over the last 2 decades is mainly due to a greater awareness of pertussis</b> and perhaps to the use of several less efficacious vaccines.</td>
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Thanks for that link. I see what they're saying about pertussis numbers over the past two decades, and that's good information to have; but at the same time, it seems like that overall picture doesn't necessarily preclude the existence of specific pertussis outbreaks in smaller areas. Am I missing something there? Is it possible that abclan's midwife's observation is also correct to a certain degree?
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