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in that first week? At the family Easter gathering of our family, on of my dc's Uncles had been seen in the ER for a really bad cough. They way he was describing it made me think he either had pneumonia or whooping cough. I got really paranoid and have been watching my kids closely for any symptoms after spending the afternoon with him. Well, here we sit at about a week and a half after a possible exposure and my middle dd and 10 mo ds have come down with a pretty bad, hacking type cough and runny noses. Maybe it's my paranoia but it doesn't seem like a regular cold because the coughing started right away. is there anyway other than the cough getting progressively worse I can distinguish this from a cold with a nasty cough (which I'm praying it can be)? We had one other scare with what I thought was wc earlier this winter so I'm really worried. I'm so sick of playing the waiting game to see if they are super sick or not. It's only day 2 of them coughing.<br><br>
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the way we could tell when we had it was you could_not_stop_coughing. cough until puke. NOTHING (not even steroids at the ER) helped the cough.<br><br>
the frustrating thing about WC is it starts out just like a regular cold. Usually though, the first stage (regular cold) is separated from the cough portion (it was in our case for sure).<br><br>
Here's a description of the disease process:<br><br><a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whooping-cough/DS00445/DSECTION=2" target="_blank">http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/who...445/DSECTION=2</a><br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whooping_cough#Characterization" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoopin...aracterization</a><br><br>
I had steroids, antibiotics, etc as well as natural treatments and they did no good, so when DH and DS3 got it a little while later, we did natural treatments only and both of them healed a bit faster than I did. raw garlic being held in the mouth did the most for them for the cough (can be hard to convince a kid of-granted).
 

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if the whoop isnt there then some doctors will do a nasal swab thingy (dontcha love my technical terms).<br><br>
good luck to ya! my youngest has WC right now, we are on week 2.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">the way we could tell when we had it was you could_not_stop_coughing. cough until puke. NOTHING (not even steroids at the ER) helped the cough.<br><br>
the frustrating thing about WC is it starts out just like a regular cold. Usually though, the first stage (regular cold) is separated from the cough portion (it was in our case for sure).<br><br>
Here's a description of the disease process:<br><br><a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whooping-cough/DS00445/DSECTION=2" target="_blank">http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/who...445/DSECTION=2</a><br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whooping_cough#Characterization" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoopin...aracterization</a><br><br>
I had steroids, antibiotics, etc as well as natural treatments and they did no good, so when DH and DS3 got it a little while later, we did natural treatments only and both of them healed a bit faster than I did. raw garlic being held in the mouth did the most for them for the cough (can be hard to convince a kid of-granted).</div>
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Non stop coughing doesn't always mean WC though. DD has had both WC and non stop coughing from another illness. She had to struggle for breath more with the WC and it lasted longer. I knew it was WC because she whooped, it was harder for her to breathe in between coughing bouts. Not all kids will do that though.
 

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the "whoop" often is NOT present (I personally only had a couple "whoops" and I have a tendency toward asthma). A recent study showed only 6% of patients (aged 5-30) had the "whoop".<br><br><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_7_60/ai_57062737" target="_blank">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...60/ai_57062737</a><br><br>
I agree with the sentiment if you are still coughing in 6 weeks, it's WC. Dead giveaway.
 

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agreed lyttlewon, but that was *our* FIRST clue. It wasn't the only clue (coughing at 2 months later was a sure one) but it was the FIRST clue.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">the "whoop" often is NOT present (I personally only had a couple "whoops" and I have a tendency toward asthma). A recent study showed only 6% of patients (aged 5-30) had the "whoop".<br><br><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_7_60/ai_57062737" target="_blank">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...60/ai_57062737</a><br><br>
I agree with the sentiment if you are still coughing in 6 weeks, it's WC. Dead giveaway.</div>
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true. i forgot to mention my older 2 never had the whoop when they had it 2 years ago. i was surprised when my youngest had it.
 

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where can I get sodium ascorbate? I can't find it at my local Whole Foods. Is there a good place online to order it?<br><br>
And yeah, I agree if they are still coughing in 6 weeks for sure, but I was just wondering if there were any distinguishing features now, like super early? It's within the 7-21 (or 14) incubation period since the interaction with him. so that is why I'm more worried because they have this cough, and it seems to have gotten worse over the last day, even though it just started a couple days ago.<br><br>
If it is wc, will they "feel" rotten or just be coughing a lot? I've read so much about it, just wondering what you all's actual experience is? Oh, and why would my oldest dd be fine so far? Maybe we are just behind my middle dd. And so far my infant's cough isn't as bad. I don't know if it will get like hers or not or my hope is that it's just a cough and cold and his is better because he's nursing. my head is swirling.<br><br>
both of my two that are coughing are not vaxed and my one that has had three of the dtap's isn't. I'm really pondering what to do if we get through this and it isn't wc. ug.
 

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have you looked in the bulk section at Whole Foods? they often carry it there. Amazon.com has it fairly cheaply (crystal or powder form).<br><br>
I never felt terribly rotten, but could NOT stop coughing, night or day. After a while you get tired just from that, but otherwise I didn't feel terribly bad.
 

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Here is where I get the sodium ascorbate powder and it actually tasts good. Some that we've had tasted lousy, so be careful.<br><br><br><a href="http://www.bronsonvitamins.com/app/search/detail.htm?&item_id=50" target="_blank">http://www.bronsonvitamins.com/app/s...tm?&item_id=50</a><br><br>
BTW - SA is the only thing that will help shorten WC.
 

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yes and no. The not being able to stop coughing enough to breath can leave them feeling weak, especially if they've had alot of attacks of it in a short period.<br><br>
I am pretty sure I got it when I was 11. A girl in my Brownies group was diagnosed with it. I got what she had a few days after a camp we were at. Mom felt at that age I was old enough to make my own dr's appts instead of her even though I was still in the elementary school and we had to have parental permission to walk 3 stores down from the school to the drug store for a bag of chips at noon(in a small town of 1500 people in the middle of nowhere).<br><br>
It was awful. I was sent out of the room many times to get a drink, it never helped. I would end up going to the bathroom and coughing over a toilet because my gag reflex would start. I was always gone for a min of 10-15min until it stopped and I could catch my breath again. Overall I would cough for 4-5 months, the worst of it in the first 6-8 weeks.<br><br>
Then I got it again(or something just as evil and exactly the same) at 13, 15, 17, 19 & 20. That last one I'd had enough. I went to college to finish a report, then decided I just couldn't stay. It was the last class before xmas holidays. I went to tell my instructor and I couldn't stop coughing long enough to even get a word out. Dh picked me up and we went home. The car was parked 10 feet from the house. I had 3 more attacks between the car & the house. It took me 10min to get to the house because I couldn't cough & walk. I had 1 more in the house & told dh to call a dr because I couldn't do it anymore. I was in the bathroom with my head in the sink, he was on the phone and he said they wouldn't give me an appt because they were only taking emergencies. I ended up not going in.<br><br>
After that I had smaller colds with bad coughing but not like that was. The dr I have now has it all down in my history and if I start up like it again I am supposed to go straight in and he'll test me. It's been 10years since I've had it.
 

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still waiting....today her cough has all but disappeared but she has this thick runny nose going. I read that the cough can wax and wane over the first few days so I'm super suspicious of it just disappearing after it was so frequent yesterday. Plus her nose is really thick. Poor thing. hoping for good things. thanks everyone.
 

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my ds has been coughing since january. i havebrought him to the ped 4 times, and each time they just say "he seems to be moving air fine". i give him OTC cough medicine (delsym) at night so he can sleep, otherwise he is coughing all night. the past 3 days the delsym hasnt helped at all. i am also giving him cherry bark, sambucal, slippery elm, this "cough tea" from trad. medicinals, and "herba tussin" cough syrup.<br><br>
the ped never mentioned WC, except in passing as something to look out for. he doesnt have much trouble catching his breath, but he does cough until he pukes. im bringing back to the ped on monday
 
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