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So my sister has decided not to vax, this is freakin' amazing, as she is finally starting to overcome her dr=god myth. What is also incredible about her not vaxing my nephew is our family hx of autoimmune diseases and vax reactions.<br><br>
Anyway, she plans to send her son to public school, and she lives in Saratoga Cty, and frankly, she is a lil' bit scared of how difficult it will be to get an exemption.<br><br>
I'm sure she won't qualify for a medical exemption, even though, IMHO, he would be more at risk for side effects and disastrous medical problems than other children, so she is left w/a religious exemption. After a thread on here w/the NYS questionnaire, I'm more nervous too.<br><br>
Any pointers on navigating the system. We have 5 yrs until he is school aged, but we want to be prepared.<br><br>
Thanks<br>
Amy
 

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It totally depends on the school district. My sister enrolled her daughter in a public school in Albany last year and was very nervous about the issue. It turned out that she only needed to sign a piece of paper. It was already made up and everything, she just had to sign it. They put it in the school file, and that was that.<br><br>
Hopefully more NYers will share their experiences.<br><br>
I just read the questionnaire thread and whoa was that scary!!
 

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Very interesting, thanks pease. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I've been searching over here, and most of the state links are invalid, so I'm kinda at a dead end. I think I'm going to really need just btdt info. Maybe I'll call her school district after the holiday and see what the deal is....<br><br>
Amy (who is anxiously awaiting more btdt stories)
 

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Yes, it does depend on the district and how far they are willing to go. <b>My district gave us no problem</b>; however, I made sure my letter was "sufficient" enough for them to be satisfied. My son is previously vaxed, so that puts up red flags in some districts. My letter was vague enough so that I didn't give too much information, but contained enough to where they didn't feel they had to question the sincerity of my beliefs.<br><br>
I was fully prepared and very confident in case I had to elaborate. I could have chewed their ears off about God and healing . . . with my attorney present though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
My district was aware of his immunization record b/c he is special needs and we have been dealing with the district since just before he turned three years old. I didn't even know about exemptions back then. We did get a titer test done so that he could get into school for kindergarten a few years ago. I didn't have enough exemption research done back then in case they rejected the exemption, so the titer test was done and gave me time to speak with a few people and perfect my letter.<br><br>
When the time comes, your sister's letter should state this language, which incorporates the law:<br><br><i>In accordance with New York State Public Health Law Section 2164.9, we affirm that the administration of vaccines and immunizing agents to our child, _______________, is contrary to our genuine and sincerely held personal religious beliefs.</i><br><br>
Before I spoke with a few people, I was a little hesistant about putting in any explanation regarding my "evolving" beliefs, but I'd rather briefly explain our situation in a letter than get any inquiry and open myself up for a rejection by the district and/or health dept.<br><br>
Needless to say, I worried a great deal and it worked out fine. The only thing I have to worry about now is middle school - since it's a separate district, I'll have to submit <i>another</i> one in a few years. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
Hopefully the language in the law will be removed very soon - before your sis even has to worry about it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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That's a good sign when a district has religious exemption letters made up - that means there are more than a handful of children with exemptions in the district. I've never heard of the prepared form letters before - fantastic!<br><br>
They may have had a lawsuit that forced them to change their "policy" and have the letters on hand so that there are no problems with lawyers and the health dept. There are districts out there that routinely reject letters b/c the wording is not "correct" and some don't even offer any info. to help parents out.<br><br>
It's <b>very</b> important to have the appropriate language in an exemption letter. In NYC schools, for example, all exemption letters are now fowarded directly to the attorneys for the district for review. Very important!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It's <b>very</b> important to have the appropriate language in an exemption letter. In NYC schools, for example, all exemption letters are now fowarded directly to the attorneys for the district for review. Very important!</div>
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You'd think that in such a "melting pot" city, that there would be a good number of kids with genuine religious exemptions. Many of whose parents may not even speak English well enough to be able to explain to some judge or attorney.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:. You'd think they could make it a *little* easier!<br><br>
Hoping there are some changes for the better in the next couple years!<br><br>
-Tina
 

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I hope so too, but NY'ers need to act now! I received this in my inbox just now:<br><br><i>Dear Supporters,<br><br>
It will take you only about 5 minutes to perform the following simple steps.<br><br>
The NYS legislative session is coming to a close soon. Health Committee Chairman Gottfried has perhaps only this week left with which to obtain the support of additional Health Committee members to succeed in voting our vaccination exemption bills out of committee.<br><br>
The vaccine promoters are lobbying hard against these bills. They're telling legislators that there are only a few fanatics among the public who support this legislation. NOW---this week---is the time to prove them wrong. There's still time to let these committee members and your own representatives hear from you.<br><br>
Please do the following now, even if you've already sent letters and messages.</i><br><br>
********************<br>
FROM LONG ISLAND: Below is the letter and it will take under five minutes! I edited it slightly b/c there's a memo attachment, but I can't put it here). At the end of this post, there's a list of email address. Just copy and paste all the address (all at one time) into your "send" line. <b>In the subject line put</b>: The _______ Family supports the Gottfried/Padavan Bill. Hit send and you've just let the Health Committee members know how you feel and hopefully it can make a difference.<br>
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Dear Senator,<br><br>
As a parent residing in New York State, I urge you in the strongest possible terms to vote out of committee the Gottfried/Padavan amendments to the exemption provisions in Public Health Law Section 2164/5:<br><br>
A8382 / S4692: The "Vaccination Physician Prevail" bill, and<br>
A8383 / S4693: The "Religious Exemption" bill<br><br>
The prime sponsors of this legislation---both Assemblyman Gottfried and Senator Padavan---have long been strong supporters of the school vaccination requirements. This legislation will not adversely affect this public health mandate in any way. (In most states, waiver applications amount to no more than 1 to 2 percent.) The only thing it will do is terminate the injustices that have acrued as a result of the way many school systems have interpreted and carried out the law.<br><br>
Respectfully Yours,<br><br><br><b>[YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE - must put this info. in there]</b><br><br>
Here are the email address to put in your "send" line:<br><br>
[email protected],[email protected] ny.us, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:mayersn[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:eek:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:p[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:p[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:eek:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:p[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a href="mailto:p[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
 
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