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I thought we usually have one starch in our dinner meal, but I forgot about all the bread! If we have pizza we often have garlic bread with it, if we have indian rice and curry meal we often have naan bread with it, with a salad meal it's often a roll or slices of french bread as one of the sides, even with casserole over mashed potato we sometimes have bread to soak up any leftover gravy.<br><br>
There's really not many meals where you <b>can't</b> have bread with it. But I guess that doesn't mean you always <b>should</b> have it.<br><br>
Then there's a big salad meal which will contain 3 starch foods! -baked jacket potato, rice side dish, rolls.<br><br>
So how many starch foods are in your dinner meals? And what is the right amount- not enough/too many?
 

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I've recently noticed some odd programming in me that doesn't quite add up with regards to starches! I was raised by a mom who served, a meat, a veg and a starch. I have to really strain to create a meal that does not fit this plan. Not that it's bad, but is it necessary? Do I really have to have a starch at every meal? Probably not! The other day I made pasta and then I started to conjure up some garlic bread, and then a light bulb went off, like WHY would I do that? All that pasta and then bread on the side? It really doesn't add up. Same with your bread with the pizza. Believe me, I am not criticizing you! It's just like we've all been programmed this way. Now, I am really trying to make a conscious effort to have 0-1 starch per meal. And when I say starch, I'm talking about the relatively low nutrient starches, like pasta, french bread, even potatoes. Now, if you're talking really hearty whole grains, that's a different story. But I'm not quite there yet!
 

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We usually have one, but maybe more depending on the meal.<br><br>
I do sometimes serve garlic bread or some type of bread with pasta, but don't always. Meals like potato soup, I always serve bread with. Sometimes we'll have meat, rice and potatoes. It really depends on the meal.
 

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We usually have one. With a few specific meals, we have more than one (eg. a potato curry with rice, a curry over rice with naan...or sometimes homemade burgers with fries), but mostly it's one. I do a very occasional meal with no starch at all, but I <i>love</i> potatoes and rice and bread, so not very many. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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USUALLY one..but there's always exceptions to the rule like<br><br>
veggie soup(w diced potatoes) served with bread<br>
potato chickpea curry w rice<br><br>
But we don't do that often..or tummies wouldn't be happy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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0-1. We have many meals without any starch at all. We only eat starches maybe 2 or 3x week.
 

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We usually have one as well.<br><br>
Although, where I come from, mac & cheese is totally a vegetable, not a starch, so I don't count that one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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1 starch if any for us normally.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We usually have one as well.<br><br>
Although, where I come from, mac & cheese is totally a vegetable, not a starch, so I don't count that one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"></div>
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When I have mac and cheese, the pasta is the only starch...but quantity-wise, I should probably say "two". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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Generally just one. If we have pasta, rice, etc. that's it. And a lot of time our starch is winter squash or yams so we're not actually having any grains.<br>
If we have corn I definitely consider that our starch. If we do a clambake we might have both corn and potatoes, but pretty small servings of each.<br>
Sometimes DH will have an additional slice or two of bread on nights when we have no grains.<br><br>
If I make a soup with potatoes in it (beef stew, fish chowder) we won't have anything else besides a garden salad or other non-starchy veggies.<br><br>
I do often make a bean soup from a dry mix that has barley in it and sometimes put rice in lentil soup, etc. I usually try to have a grain-free/low starch breakfast and/or lunch on those days.<br>
I do believe that whole grains have nutritional benefits, but I also know I can't lose weight if I they make up to large a part of my diet.
 

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I usually eat just one, if that, but my dh and kids all like to have a couple. I have a teen, two pre-teens and a dh who runs so I figure they need the energy. We always have homemade protein enriched whole grain bread at the table so they are getting some good nutrition with that extra starch serving.
 

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"Starch" isn't in my food categories any longer. We have "whole grains" and "vegetables" as two separate categories (plus others, of course). We eat 3-5 veggies nearly every single night at dinner. (I probably eat more that that, though, because I like more raw veggies in my salads than my family does.) Potatoes and corn are not that common here and when we eat potatoes, the boring Russet isn't the potato of choice. We don't always have a whole grain at dinner....maybe half our dinners (or less) contain a whole grain. (We get our whole grains at other times of the day.)<br><br>
"Other" items include the less nutritious grains and those are even rarer. Actual bread is the rarest of "starches" eaten in our house. When we have pizza, DH gets his veggies with a large salad while I like my veggies on the pizza and DD will do a little of both. Pizza isn't that common for us for dinner, though. (Although DD and I are attending a party tonight where that's dinner.) We do have a couple pasta meals that we eat garlic bread with, but we don't eat those meals very often. When we plan one, we buy the French bread rolls and then have several meals in a week or so that use those rolls. So, when we do eat bread, it is frequent for a period of time (about a week) and then it is none for a longer period of time (like months, lol). Mac & cheese around here has veggies in it and is served with salad along with some chicken (if dinner; no chicken if lunch).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">"Starch" isn't in my food categories any longer. We have "whole grains" and "vegetables" as two separate categories (plus others, of course). We eat 3-5 veggies nearly every single night at dinner. (I probably eat more that that, though, because I like more raw veggies in my salads than my family does.) Potatoes and corn are not that common here and when we eat potatoes, the boring Russet isn't the potato of choice. We don't always have a whole grain at dinner....maybe half our dinners (or less) contain a whole grain. (We get our whole grains at other times of the day.)<br><br>
"Other" items include the less nutritious grains and those are even rarer. Actual bread is the rarest of "starches" eaten in our house. When we have pizza, DH gets his veggies with a large salad while I like my veggies on the pizza and DD will do a little of both. Pizza isn't that common for us for dinner, though. (Although DD and I are attending a party tonight where that's dinner.) We do have a couple pasta meals that we eat garlic bread with, but we don't eat those meals very often. When we plan one, we buy the French bread rolls and then have several meals in a week or so that use those rolls. So, when we do eat bread, it is frequent for a period of time (about a week) and then it is none for a longer period of time (like months, lol). Mac & cheese around here has veggies in it and is served with salad along with some chicken (if dinner; no chicken if lunch).</div>
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This sounds like the diet of my dreams! I would love to hear more about what you feed your family, if you're open to sharing! A few ideas for each meal of the day? PM me if you'd prefer!
 

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We're in the ususually 1 starch/meal category. I also grew up where the 'veggies' in a meal might be corn and potatoes...with some kind of bread as another side! Like many PPs, we have occaissional meals w/ 2 (e.g. pasta/garlic bread combos), but not often. Also, most of our starches are whole grain - brown rice, whole grain breads (when eaten), etc.
 

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we eat at least one starch at each meal- we eat a ton of starch compared to what most have posted during out day<br><br>
a typical week includes at least one meal with rice, one with barley, breads/rolls/biscuits thru out the week made with sourdough, sweet potatoes (2-3 times a week), mung beans, peas (once a week) bananas (several times a week), two serving of porridge (two different grains a week) corn meal, millet, lentils, tapioca AND red potatoes & pasta about two times a month<br><br>
our breads are all whole grains and all starches are organic
 

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Hi Heather!<br><br>
First, I must give a lot of credit to my DH. He cooks far more meals than I do. I tend to do the research and he implements it, if I help in the transition. Now that the disclosure has been given <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> , here is a sampling of meals we eat:<br><br><b>breakfast</b><br>
~ scrambled eggs and bacon<br><br>
~ bulk oatmeal (DH eats it with milk, cinnamon, and brown sugar. DD & I eat it with cinnamon and fresh fruit, such as strawberries, blueberries, peaches, etc. She usually adds milk and I rarely do. I like raisins and cranberries, which I soak first.)<br><br>
~ fried eggs and sausage (DH & DD will eat these with a slice of cheese all wrapped up in a whole wheat tortilla. I just eat the eggs and sausage. When DH makes homemade English muffins, I'll eat a breakfast sandwich and will he. DD doesn't care for English muffins, so she'll have a wrap, if we have tortillas, or she'll eat them plain.)<br><br>
~ homemade pancakes (DH and I make a variety of pancakes with whole grain flours. My fave is banana oat pancakes. DH's fave is buttermilk with wheat germ. DD eats any and all pancakes. DD likes them plain. DH eats them with "maple" syrup. I eat them with butter and fresh fruit...sometimes I make berry sauce/syrup.)<br><br><b>dinner</b><br>
~ sausage or chicken medley (DH will chop up a variety of veggies, such as red peppers, parsnips, carrots, asparagus, Yukon gold potatoes, etc) and toss 'em on a jelly roll pan and roast them in the oven with onion and garlic and olive oil. If sausage is the choice, then it's either turkey kielbasa cut up and cooked with the veggies OR it is locally made sausage (variety) and grilled outside. If chicken is the choice, it is cooked in a pan in small pieces or sometimes grilled. Either way, it is served as one dish, all combined together. Often served after a salad of raw veggies.)<br><br>
~ protein and veggies (The most common dinner is our house is a formula: meat of some sort and I use this term loosely - fish, pork, beef, chicken - often grilled or cooked in a pan and a salad of raw veggies - as an appetizer - and 2-3 steamed veggies, such as broccoli, spinach, carrots, etc. Once in awhile, our veggies will be low and we'll eat rice as one of the side dishes. Wild/brown/long-grain combo is our favorite, but we've been enjoying basmati recently.)<br><br>
The above are our most common meals, by far, but we also eat random soups I make with my homemade bone broth. I just make up new soup recipes spur-of-the-moment with whatever we have on hand. Sometimes they have leftover rice or pasta tossed in for frugality. Mostly, though, they are veggie soups with some leftover meat bits. DH will occasionally make some type of biscuit to go along with the soup, but I usually make my soups hearty enough to stand alone as a meal.<br><br>
Last night, I made up a quiche recipe. DH fried up some bacon for it. I cooked down 4 different greens and then shredded 4-5 more veggies directly into the filling. I did make a crust, but this could have been crustless. I made two quiches at once and froze one. DH is working from home today and we all three had dinner last night and lunch today from one quiche.<br><br>
We have a CSA (farm share of local, organic, fresh produce). We share with another family and pick it up once every two weeks. We get lots of unusual veggies and have learned to cook whatever we get. There was an adjustment period, but it is really fun! Salads, soups, quiches, frying in bacon grease/butter/garlic/onion, and roasting in a medley are our favorite ways to handle the randomness of the types of veggies. We also grow some produce in our tiny backyard. All this leads to high veggie consumption.<br><br>
As for categories, I have a basic list in my head (and was on paper on the fridge for a year or two) that I encourage all of us to get each day. DD knows this by heart and is responsible for her own lunch/snack packing for school (age 9 now, but since age 6). AT LEAST one food item from each of the following groups goes to school with her every day:<br>
protein and healthy fats<br>
calcium<br>
veggies<br>
fruits<br>
whole grains<br><br>
Obviously, she eats more than one of each in an entire day, but this is the minimum for school. She is really good at doing it with a variety of foods that she likes. She is also allowed to bring one "extra" food, which is something not in one of the above categories (refined grains being an example, which is pertinent to this thread). Since she gets at least one veggie at school every day and we eat quite a few at dinner every night, we focus on fruit and non-meat protein sources for snacks. She has no issues with calcium foods even though she doesn't drink much milk. Healthy fats can be an issue for her, but we've worked through those for the most part now. Although I don't call attention to it by a specific category, I do discuss fiber with her and in our family as a general topic.<br><br>
I hope this helps! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thank you! It does help. I really do require inspiration quite frequently to stay motivated!
 

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Usually one, occasionally none if I have particularly substantial veggies. Never more than one except perhaps a holiday when I'd serve bread as well because of guests.
 

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Timely thread - we're just committing to going low-carb again for a while. We went low-carb a while back and lost weight, which I didn't notice until we got poor, started eating more carbs and gained it again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> I'm sad to do it, as I LOVE homemade bread in particular - there's a loaf of wholemeal pumpkin, herb and poppy seed bread taunting me from the freezer! - but such is life.<br><br>
I only clicked recently that peas and corn were starches. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag"> So there have definitely been meals in the past that were a meat/vegetarian dish over rice, with peas and corn as the only veggies on the side! And going even earlier into my cooking past, I'd often double up on rice and bread, pasta and bread, pasta and potato salad, bread and potato salad... Fortunately DH doesn't have much of a stomach for carbs, and has weaned me off it. I still might make chapattis with the rice for an Indian meal, but we have that rarely.<br><br>
I do use only brown rice now, after a long weaning process with half white, half brown. Cooked in chicken stock it's delicious! My bread is 2/3 wholemeal and sometimes has whole grains added - I have yet to make a 100% wholemeal bread that's as light as I like.<br><br>
I'm hoping to get into the habit of using wilted bok choy or spinach or whatever as the "bed" for a curry or stew, instead of rice. I used to hate those kinds of greens, but it turns out now my mother's not forcing me to eat them, I kinda like them!
 
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