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DS is almost 6 and he is very much a 12hr a night sleeper, but the problem is that he doesn't want to go to bed at night and actively keeps himself up so that he only ends up getting 8-10hrs. He is so hard to wake up in the morning and I feel so badly because I know he is tired. How much sleep does he really need still? Should I try waking him up earlier instead of letting him sleep in? Maybe that way he will go to bed earlier. Left to his own he will always sleep 12-13hrs at night.
 

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If left to his own will he sleeps 12-13 hours, then he needs 12-13 hours.<br><br>
If he's actively keeping himself up, that means he needs an earlier bedtime than you currently have, because he's overtired. I know that from painful experience with dd. Now, we still often don't get her to bed "on time" but being aware of when her natural bedtime is does help. Try moving bedtime back about 15 minutes a day, until he's <i>asleep</i> 12 hours before he has to get up.
 

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My second child is very much like this. We do the early bedtime thing, soothing ritual, etc. Long after my first child is asleep I will check on my second, and almost always Dc is still awake-lying in bed, but STILL awake. My solution at this point is that everyone gets up at the same time in the morning-no lying in to sleep late. We've not had naps in a long time, so this means a tired end of the day, but I am hoping that it will facilitate falling asleep in the evening at a decent hour.
 

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My 5yo is out like a light the second he hits the pillow and sleep 10.5-11.5 hours.
 

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For us it depends on the season. DS follows the sun so in the summer he runs on significantly less sleep than in winter and is completely fine with that. Of course he's never been more than 7-8 hour sleeper.
 

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Ds has always needed 11-12 hours of sleep a night. Right now he's in bed by 8 and up between 7-8. If he has a night or two that he stays up until 9 he's a beast by the end of the week.<br><br>
Can you send him to bed earlier with books and then do lights out at what should be his bedtime? That works well with ds when he's "not tired".
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ds has always needed 11-12 hours of sleep a night. Right now he's in bed by 8 and up between 7-8. If he has a night or two that he stays up until 9 he's a beast by the end of the week.</div>
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My dd is this way too.<br><br>
I was actually going to come here and post about this very thing this week. My dd #1 seems to need 12 hours a night. I have an additional question for all of you: <b>do any of your children sleep for 11-12 hours and then they are still tired??</b> This happens to Kylie frequently and I'm not sure why. There's no way in heck she'll ever nap but she seems so tired (and will complain about being tired) in the afternoons.<br><br>
Jill
 
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