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I'm curious. As a bfar mom, I've had unsuccessful bf'ing attempts with my two older boys, and I'm hopeful to get farther with Baby due in July. From reading and reading and reading, on this forum, Kellymom and bfar.org, I'm realizing where some of my failure stems from.<br><br>
How often do your newborns actually eat? Since I FF'd my oldest exclusively from 10 days old, I only know the FF 3-4 hour routine. My current toddler wanted to eat every 10 minutes, and our before/after weight checks showed him only getting about 1/2 oz of milk, so I know he really was hungry. But, for a baby getting "adequate" milk from a mom with no supply or latch or other feeding issues, how often do your newborns/young infants eat? Every hour? Every 2 hours? I have no idea what to expect!
 

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My first son: every 30min-2hours<br>
My 2nd son: every 1-3hours<br>
My 1st dd: a premie & still too new to gauge, but so far it's every 1-4hrs.
 

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I would say my newborn went 2 hours, he had weight loss in the beginning and jaundice but we never supplemented and no other problems during the newborn stage. And that isn't 2 hours from the time he finished, it is two hours from when he started. So, say he started at 1 and nursed for 30 minutes. The next feeding would be at 3. If you are concerned about supply I would never go longer than 2 hours during the day and 4 hours at night during the newborn stage (6-8 weeks). Good luck with this one!
 

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Wow. Ok, and then when do they start to increase the time between eating? I've never gone past 4 weeks of bf'ing - I would give a formula bottle after nursing, so after just a few weeks my milk was gone. I'm planning to use a lactaid supplementer this time, so hopefully I won't have to use any bottle supps. Gotta say - every 30 minutes will be a lot for me to handle!
 

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All the time.<br><br>
Dd was well over 2 before she regularly went longer than 3 hours between nursing when awake and at home (she'd go longer SOMETIMEs when out and about)<br><br>
-Angela
 

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Generally I would say they increase between 6-8 weeks, after supply is established. And there are alot of growth spurts in the beginning, usually 6-10 days, 2 weeks, 4-6 weeks, 3 months, etc. This varies, of course.<br><br>
Yes, the bottles would pose a big problem. I know it will be hard in your situation but doing all you can to not use them will help. I would get set up with your supplementary system before the baby is born, make sure you know how to use it, etc. That will make a big difference.
 

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I went back and looked at his baby calendar, cause I can't remember. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> He did nurse abotu every 2 hours in the beginning, but around 6 months or so, went to a consistent every 3 hours. He was/is a fast nurser at that point, so it's only like 15 minutes to feed him, at the most.<br><br>
Now, at 8.5 months, he is eating more like every 3.5 hours. If I offer at 3 hours, he turns his head and tries to get down. He's also recently gone to 4-5 hours at night (heavenly!!!).
 

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Totally depends on the baby - there are guidelines that you should loosely have in your head, like, a newborn shouldn't go longer than 3 hours during the day and 4 hours at night (and that's from beginning to beginning) - cause sometimes babies are sleepy and you need to wake them....but other babies like to be latched on all the time. I've had a mixture of both with both kids, depending on the age and stage they were/are in.<br><br>
My son nursed about every 2 hours (sometimes 1-1/2 in the early days), and then spread out to about every 4 hours around 7 months, and stopped night nursing on his own around 9 months. He was down to about 3 times a day when he turned 1 - I'd offer, he wasn't interested. And he's a very healthy, thriving boy at 3 yrs 3 months old, so he clearly knew what he was doing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">.<br><br>
My daughter is currently 10 months old and nurses about every 4 hours during the day, and about 3-4 times overnight. She's a super efficient nurser (has been since birth), so I don't think I've ever nursed her for more than 10 minutes at a time, for both sides (which actually caused me concern in the beginning, but she was clearly thriving by all signs - and she's still 95th percentile in heigth and weight).<br><br>
DS on the other hand liked to take his time in the first few months and I'd be there sometimes for 45 min....and then he'd be ready again an hour and a half later. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">.<br><br>
I guess I'd say just be sure they're nursing at least every 3 during the day and 4 during the night in the beginning, and be sure you're not <i>withholding</i> nursing because "it's not time yet" or, "they just ate 10 minutes ago", and you'll be fine.<br><br>
Good luck and congratulations!<br><br>
ETA: D'oh! I forgot about cluster feeding! Both DS and DD around 6 weeks until about 12 weeks did the cluster feed thing anywhere from about 6:30-9:30pm, wanting to basically be latched on constantly for 2-3 hours..but then would sleep for a few hours, so it was cool with me, too.
 

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DS and DD mostly wanted to eat about every hour and a half to two hours in the mornings, every hour in the afternoons and evenings, and every two or three hours at night. They mostly took about 40 min. to finish each time, so that I was basically nursing round the clock. Now, at three months, they nurse about 10 times a day for about 20 minutes at a time, but with no particular spacing-- more often in the mornings, less often in the evening (!), and twice during the night.
 

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DD was nursing hourly for the first month, sometimes she would stretch that to every 1.5 hours. She nursed for about 20-30 minutes each time. At night it was closer to every 3 hours.<br><br>
Around 2 months she was able to go every 2 hours; 3 months was closer to every 2.5 hours. By 4 months it was every 3 hours, and it's pretty much stayed that way since.<br><br>
I like to have a snack every 3 hours or so. If I wait any longer, I'm starving by my next meal. I figure she must be like me.
 

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I forgot to mention that she would cluster feed in the evenings for the first few months.<br><br>
Also, as she got older, the time it took for her to nurse decreased. It happened pretty gradually, but by about 9 months she was nursing for 5-7 minutes total.
 

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The supplementer will be great b/c the baby will be sucking from the breast and be able to stimulate more production from you. You might want to try using it on the breast that does not produce as much as the other. You will learn that soon enought.
 

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My twins started spacing their feedings a bit at around 7 weeks, but then around 11 weeks they started nursing more often again, and now a week later are spacing them again. They nurse more frequently when their needs start to increase, in order to boost my supply. And then once the supply is back up, they start to eat less frequently again.
 

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My memory of DD --<br>
First month: in arms all the time, not very happy elsewhere. Usually had mouth on nipple, but probably asleep a good chunk of that time.<br><br>
2 - 5 months: still wants to be in arms a lot of the time, but more awake. By this time, she's gotten into her 9p bedtime routine. Nursing happens around the clock, still in short sessions of serious feeding, but a lot of suckling. 5th month hard b/c I started back to work.<br><br>
6 months: Nursing sessions (the actual eating part) start to get longer, and a little less frequent -- though still probably every two hours or less.<br><br>
7 - now: Gradual increase in duration of nursing sessions and descrease in frequency. Dad is primary care in mornings while I work, and she is OK for 2 - 3 hour stretches now (at almost 11 months).<br><br>
There may have been ways I could have done things differently to bring about the current status quo sooner, but I don't really know. I've just been trying to follow her lead for the most part. I work at home and I don't have any other kids, so we were able to make it work out with all the nursing.<br><br>
good luck!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The supplementer will be great b/c the baby will be sucking from the breast and be able to stimulate more production from you. You might want to try using it on the breast that does not produce as much as the other. You will learn that soon enought.</div>
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My right side is less......useful.....than the left. It's bigger, but has less to offer. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I actually posted last night on Breastfeeding Challenges about using the supplementer and whether I should start with it immediately or wait until the 2 week mark, just to see how much I'm really capable of producing AND getting to the baby.<br><br>
Since both my kids have used pacifiers, I'm not sure what I'll do about that this time around. It's a norm for me, primarily b/c I didn't breastfeed I'm sure. I might forgo it at first to give baby ample time to suck and stimulate milk production. I'm also very sure I'll have my hands full, literally, with my 6 year old, my toddler (turns 2 this next weekend!) and one year old I babysit, and will continue to watch. Thankfully I'll get an 8 week reprieve from that, hopefully that will be long enough to establish a decent relationship.<br><br>
Thanks, everyone! Here's hoping I've re-grown the "ductwork" and things "flow smoothly" this time around..... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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really, really, often. At least every hour for several months. It sounds like a lot, but it's not as if you have to go and make a bottle, you just lift your shirt and your baby latches on. Have lots of bottles of water around and magazines and books to read. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I'm having such a hard time getting my head around the "every hour" concept, to be honest. My husband did "bottle duty" - he made a day's worth before I got up in the morning, and they were ready to go, sitting in the frig waiting for me for the day. All I had to do was pull one out and warm it up and we were done. I washed them all at night, in one big sinkload, which took about 15 minutes tops. So honestly, for me, formula feeding wasn't the horrible, messy, complicated pain in the a^* that it could have been. Venturing out of the house took more thought though. Something to keep it cold, something to keep it from leaking, something to hold the extra formula powder if we needed more.......<br><br>
I'm kind of freaked by the idea of handling that frequency with so much "other" responsibility, like my other two children. I go back and forth between saying "heck yes of course I can do this" and "oh my gosh I'm nuts there's now way this will ever work".
 
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