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Ok, so I have read and heard lots about making the decision to not vax. However, I am wondering about what comes after you make the decision to not vax (granted there is as lot of relief and happiness etc. etc.), but what do I need to do to prepare for any of these diseases? Maybe these are basic questions, I'd assume there is a handy-dandy book out there for someone with such questions... anyone have a recommendation?<br><br>
But really, I'm also wanting to hear from moms who haven't vaxed... are you more careful about hygiene? More careful to stay home if you or child has the sniffles... Is there a certain age you would be more comfortable for your child to contract a certain disease? And how do you identify and treat these diseases?<br><br>
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I don't think I'm more careful about hygiene. I'm not generally all that obsessive about cleanliness, I don't have a little liner for the grocery cart seat, we don't always wash our hands when we should... I'm the mama that the other moms look at because I don't have my five year old wash the *gasp* dirt off her hand before she eats a bite of sandwich.<br><br>
We stay at home when we're sick but not because of vax or no vax... I first feel that if I can avoid spreading it to others, I should, and then I think that our bodies need rest if we're fighting something, and that generally most places we would go would stress the body, and not contribute to rest.<br><br>
I would prefer my kids be old enough to understand at least a bit about why they itch before they get chicken pox, but ds is there/nearly there, so I'm an eager beaver for it now. Most of them it's not an issue except that of course I'd rather a babe under six months or so not get sick, period.
 

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I am interested to hear what others have to say.<br><br>
I do avoid going anywhere when dd is sick with a cold it is fine though if family comes to visit. I am concerned about her getting something else on top of a cold when her immune system is down.<br><br>
I am still bf'ing. 20 months.<br><br>
My dd has very little sweet stuff. No sugar. No juice. Just fruit and home made baking with honey and/or stevia.<br><br>
I would say that at around 12 months I wasn't concerned about dd getting anything like say chicken pox.
 

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Hmm...we don't do anything special really.<br><br>
I try to feed them as healthy as I possibly can, and as healthy as they will let me...trying to make sure they are getting all they need nutritionally to keep their immune system strong.<br><br>
We have immune boosting regimens we use whenever they do get sick, and that's about it.<br><br>
IMO, just stuff parents should do period.
 

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I try to make sure my kids eat healthy. I stay home when we're sick, unless we have to go to the grocery or something. I don't do anything out of the ordinary though. I don't let my son have the Purell at pre-school when everyone else is getting their squirt before snack time. I don't freak out when my oldest picks his french fry off the floor and eats it (for the most part, there are a few places where I won't let him do that). I let my 9.5 mo play in the dirt and he likes to crawl off the sidewalk and get into the gutter/street with the big kids. (we live on the end of a cul-de-sac, hardly any traffic) I don't mind if he gets down into the playground bark and play in it. My kids have a blast getting dirty and it's nothing a quick wash in the sink or tub can't take care of. I really don't mind if they're filthy messes, to me it's a mark of a good day. I plan on getting "How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Dr", can't remember the author, and I'm currently reading "Vaccinations" by Aviva Jill Romm. That's about it. We live our life and have fun.
 

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I don't do anything special. I think some germs are good. If it's just a cold, we don't stay home if dd feels up to going out. We eat better than some, but not perfect by any stretch. I have a good feel for the diseases I think there's a chance of catching... and have some idea how I would deal with them.<br><br>
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Everything all the mama's said and I also read a few books on vaccine's and the different childhood illnesses, my favorite so far is "Raising a vaccine free child" By Wendy Lydall...<br>
It tell's you about all the illnesses, the vaccine's and how to care for your child when they get one of the illnesses.<br><br>
Hope this helps!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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I'm supposed to do something different? I don't think my kid not being vaxed puts her at any kind of disadvantage. I consider her immune system and overall health way better off than the average vaxed kid. They should probably be the ones doing "extra" imo.<br><br>
I live life with out worrying about germs/dirt/ick. My daughter is allowed to touch and explore things all she wants for the most part. I'm actually pretty bad about remembering to wash her hands everytime we come home. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
I feed her well, keep her well rested, limit her exposure to tv, minimize the stress in her life, tend to her as naturally as possible when she's ill, provide her with a couple good supplements, I breastfeed her, keep her generally clean, her enviroment healthy, ect.<br><br>
But I would do these exact same things for a vaxed child.
 

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The only thing I do differently is to keep an eye/ear out for VPDs in our state/area. If something is in the area, I want to know so that if DD shows sx of illness I can look to something as the cause.<br><br>
Otherwise, we do nothing different.<br><br>
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I read up on the VPDs since many doctors don't know what to look for anymore.<br><br>
We eat healthy food (we strive for balanced as well!).<br><br>
We keep vitamins and such at home for when dd, dh, or I are sick (since dh and I aren't planning on ever getting another vax we're "unprotected" as well - and so are you unless you've had boosters lately...).<br><br>
We only stay at home if one of us doesn't feel up to going out.<br><br>
Germs help strengthen the immune system and don't scare me as long as we keep healthy and don't go living in any sewers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
I don't worry about much (I don't let dd chew on cigarette butts, but dirt is fair game!) and am really comfortable about our decision not to vaccinate our dd and future children. It also helps that I have at least one friend my own age who was never vaccinated, her mother never did anything special other than make sure she ate well, and my friend is just fine! I also know a family with 13 (yes, 13) children and they don't vaccinate. They're all alive and well too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">:<br><br>
love and peace. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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We also dont really do anything special, although I guess when I made the decision not to vax it was supported by our already healthy lifestyle which includes a really good diet, breastfeeding and also not being in daycare. I am home with my dd, and we plan to homeschool so daycare isn't a part of our lives anyway, its not that we chose not to go to daycare because we didn't vax, but this way she is certainly less exposed to disease....seems like kids in day care are often sick. As for cleanliness, I let her get into everything. She still eats the dirt at the playground, and while i do, like pp, stop her with the cigaret butts, i think the germs in her daily environment help to build her immune system. We limit her sugar intake to only home made things and fruits, and we dont use sugar in our house as a rule....its either date syrup or honey, and then very little. But this is something that we've been accustomed to long before children.<br><br>
I do have a really good (IMO) book on how to treat childhood illnesses (with sections on the vax related ones) called "Smart Medicine for a Healthier Child" (sorry dont recal the authors right now, but do a google search) that has good desciptions of illnesses and many different approaches to treating them, including allopathic, natural, homeopathic etc. I refere to this book often, which often means avoiding a trip to a doctor to confirm disease. But , thank God and our own choices, our daughter has been very healthy to date.<br><br>
I think fostering an atitude of health is also very important. Research in cells shows that our bodies' cells respond to our thoughts. Teaching your children that they are strong and healthy and have the natural ability to heal will promote this as a truth in their subconcious and their cells will respond.<br><br>
My midwife also told me about one research that said that children who were not vaxinated showed better natural immunity to illnesses that their mothers were concerned to prevent....in that the concern on behalf of the mother stimulated her cells to produce resistance to these illnesses which was of course passed in the breastmilk.<br><br>
Anyway, I dont think there is anything "special" to be done, although being aware of what is going around could help in identifying it earlier, as one pp mentioned, it seems doctors may not been as sharp on this as these illnesses are seen less and less. For this matter I think it is important that your doctor knows that your child is unvax so nothing will be ruled out...<br><br>
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My oldest unvaxed child is nine (my 16 year old is partically vaxed) and honestly I don't even think about it. I strive to ensure they have a healthy diet with clean water (ie no fluoride/chlorine), get plenty of excercise and fresh air, live stress-free lives full of love and joy. We stay away from allopathic doctors and chemical pharmaceuticals. I don't vaccinate so I don't use chemical pharaceuticals either. As for supplements I give them high vitamin cod liver oil, butter oil, a liquid mineral and sodium ascorbate (on an as need basis).<br><br>
As for vaccine available diseases, I had most of the self-limiting childhood ones and know how to treat them. I don't think twice about diphtheria, tetanus, Hib (used to!) or polio. I second reading "Raising a Vaccine Free Child" by Wendi Lydall.
 

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I take my kids out anywere just like I would if they were vaxed. I dont think about them getting sick any more than I would if they were vaxed. It just dosnt concern me any more than it would if they got sick with the flu or a cold.
 

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I guess I could have read up on vdp's and what to do if she catches one. But I always figure I have the internet right here at my finger tips should she get sick. It's not like it would be possible for me to memorize all the differen't vpd's, their symptoms, treatments, when to get concerned, ect. I'd have to get back online for a refresher anyway.<br><br>
Not like studying any of the vpd's would have helped me at all when my baby had really bad croup or scarlet fever. They don't have vaxes for either of those illnesses (yet).
 

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I don't do anything differently.<br><br>
We are very healthful, organic eaters and take supplements, but we don't live the way we do because we don't vax.
 

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Hey, that's me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I don't use bleach or antibacterial cleaners in my house, either.<br><br>
Under two is a good age for mumps, because it's usually asymptomatic under 2, but over 2 you have a 70% chance of having symptoms. (DD was exposed twice before age 2, both times on accident, so hopefully she's immune.)<br><br>
Measles I'd want to wait until 4 or 5, because prior to the introduction of the vaccine, most kids didn't get it until then.<br><br>
Rubella I wouldn't care about at any age.<br><br>
Chickenpox I wouldn't be concerned about at any age, but we'll start looking when I know she's old enough to understand why she shouldn't scratch. I had it at age 3 and I knew not to scratch, so I'm assuming she should be good to go in the next 6 to 12 months. (She's 2.5)<br><br>
I don't do anything I wouldn't do if she was vaccinated. We don't go out when she's sick just because it's rude to other people, not because she's not vaccinated. We eat right, have certain alternative treatments on hand for illnesses, supplement daily with vitamin C and cod liver oil....all things we'd still do if we vaxed.
 

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Aviva Jill Romm has a book called "Naturally Healthy Babies and Children" you should check out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">: .
 
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