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http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2016/01/how-identify-bad-vaccine-reaction-it-happens

People who reported higher levels of side effects had higher levels of expression of genes affiliated with B cells, which make antibodies, both before and after receiving the vaccine. The findings, reported online today in Nature Immunology, are “wholly unexpected,” says immunologist Adrian Hayday of King’s College London, who led the study. As Hayday explains, his team looked at myriad genes expressed in blood samples, most of which were not related to B cells. The researchers also found different gene expression patterns after the flu vaccination in younger and older people. That may be because people over 40 were more likely to have had been exposed to a related swine flu virus, which altered their immune responses.
 

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I like the "wholly unexpected" part. Once again, we've got evidence that there are huge areas of the human immune system and how it responds to vaccinations that are still mysteries to the people in charge. But we should trust them. They know what they are doing and how it works.
 

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I like the "wholly unexpected" part. Once again, we've got evidence that there are huge areas of the human immune system and how it responds to vaccinations that are still mysteries to the people in charge. But we should trust them. They know what they are doing and how it works.
and that the vaccination program is a 'one-size-fits-all' program, too. Why bother with those pesky reactions people might have? it's all just coincidence anyway, or their body is defective.
 

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This part was interesting:


"A closer analysis of people who had more side effects revealed that they had larger numbers of a type of a B cell that is linked to autoimmune reactions. (Although B cells typically produce antibodies that thwart invaders, some lineages produce antibodies that attack body tissues.) The team was not able to unravel the mechanism that tied these B cells to vaccine side effects. But they stress that vaccination did not actually boost the number of these potentially harmful B cells—contrary to the fears of some people who denounce vaccines and claim that they cause immunological mayhem."


So, people that had a reaction have more of this certain type of B cell. They don't know why these people have more side effects. But, it DEFINITELY doesn't cause ANY problems..... Definitely. Trust us.
 

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Considering the significant increase in auto-immune conditions alarm bells ought to be going off. But there is a permanent dimmer switch in some people's brains when it comes to vaccines, which is rather sad.

http://www.aarda.org/autoimmune-information/autoimmune-statistics/
• A close genetic relationship exists among autoimmune disease, explaining clustering in individuals and families as well as a common pathway of disease.
Yes, some people are more vulnerable. Spotting these vulnerabilities could save lives. And health.

Major clue just spotted.

Must be disregarded to the extent that it points as vaccines as a possible trigger for problems...
 

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and still more!

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016...oteins-may-predict-adverse-vaccine-responses/ Remember boys & girls vaccines are GOOD!

I did find these interesting - maybe others will too!

But sometimes some people have adverse reactions to them—no, not autism, but things like diarrhea, nausea, fatigue, maybe a sore arm.
- has anyone been told of these reactions prior???




Researchers treated 178 healthy adult volunteers with a vaccine against the H1N1 "swine flu" that circulated in 2009. They took blood and urine from the volunteers one week before their shots, the day of their shots, and then one day, one week, two weeks, and again 63 days afterward.

Twenty percent of the volunteers were classified as nonresponders, as they did not mount the requisite immunological response. Roughly 20 percent of male volunteers and 25 percent of females reported adverse events, primarily one day after the injection. These weren't the same groups of people; there was no correlation between adverse reaction and vaccine responsiveness.
20% didn't count (non responders) and another 20-25% had an adverse reaction - why is this always missing from the ads for getting your flu vaccine??? Odd this get left out! :eyesroll


Remember, all of the subjects were healthy.
 

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Medscape has this too (some reason copy and paste of their stuff is an issue) http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/856851

the title if anyone should search is - Molecular Signatures Explain Unique Responses to Vaccination
Lara C. Pullen, PhD
January 07, 2016

I LOVED the comment! :love Doctors listening to their patients???? :laugh
 
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