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Does anybody have any links to threads or articles at MDC which discuss the qualities to look for for a good childcare arrangement.<br>
I think there is an organization which has "standards" which are usually much tougher than state standards. DOes anybody know who they are or how to link to them?<br><br>
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Hello <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I work in the field and have provided child care in the past for 10 years. It is such an important yet difficult choice. <a href="http://www.eccdc.org" target="_blank">www.eccdc.org</a> it is a candian site but has a wonderfull section on choosing quality child care. There are a list of questions a parent should ask. I highly reccomend the info on this site. Although the standards may be different a lot of the info will be the same hth
 

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Great thanks.<br>
I am mostly interested in standards for what is "good" rather than standards for what is "legal" .<br>
My state standards are abysmal. So it was time to do somemore research.
 

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Try the NAEYC website:<br><br><a href="http://www.naeyc.org/accreditation/next_era.asp" target="_blank">http://www.naeyc.org/accreditation/next_era.asp</a><br><br>
(nat'l assoc for the education of young children) NAEYC is an accrediting body that preschools and child care centers can get if they want to be above the standards.
 

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also this thread:<br><br><a href="http://69.20.14.30/discussions/showthread.php?t=335376" target="_blank">http://69.20.14.30/discussions/showthread.php?t=335376</a>
 

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I was disappointed with one NAYEC child care center I used. They had huge turnover and barely met the state regulations. They were a large chain that cleaned up enough to get certified but didn't really maintain the standards hour to hour or day to day.
 

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I totally agree that NAEYC accreditation does not mean it is a great child care. Each of us still has to go on "feel" and lots of other things.<br><br>
I was just trying to find some standards for the OP since that is what she is looking for. I also pulled up the thread which member suggestions, regardless of standards.<br><br>
I am hoping people will add to that and maybe I can make it a Sticky.
 

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Yeah that is who I was looking for.<br>
And I agree it is not whether a center actually IS accredited (because they might not really follow the suggestions all the time) but what their recommendations are.<br>
My state has a 5:1 infant/caregiver ratio and no upper limit on the # of infants in a group. I knew this was bad, but I needed to know what is reasonable to look for.<br>
Thanks for all the input
 

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Here is a link to a Power Point presentation on a longitudinal study on day care from a Harvard Researcher<br><br><a href="http://www.bcfwp.org/Conference_papers/McCartney.ppt" target="_blank">http://www.bcfwp.org/Conference_papers/McCartney.ppt</a><br><br>
Slide 36 includes the study's recommended ratios and various states:<br><br>
They recommend<br>
3:1 for infants and 7:1 for 3 year olds.<br><br>
States vary:<br>
For infants: 3:1 infants in Massachusetts and 12:1 in Idaho (can you imagine!?)
 

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Hi,<br>
I would suggest you visit several day cares/preschools. In my opinion and experience "chains" are not going to offer as low of ratios or as high of care as private centers. I think it is important in a good center that the owner is actually there on the premises. Otherwise the center will not be run as well because noone takes as much interest in a business being run well as the owner would. You can go to the licensing agency where you live and request copies of the inspections for the centers. That should give you an idea as to whether they are in compliance with at least the minimum requirements. Remember you will pay more for a center with lower ratios. Child care centers are in the business of making money and the lower the ratios the more they have to charge. You also may have to get a little out of your way as far as driving/location. You might consider in home child care as an option as well as it might offer lower ratios. Of course many centers now have video cameras in the classrooms so that is something to think about too. On the website for NAEYC they have a link to find centers in your area that are accredited or in the process of being. I have found that some centers that claim to be accredited are really not they are just in the early phase of that which means they are not following the lower ratios required by NAEYC. If you find a center you like please go more thna once before making a final decision. Choose a center that allows you to come and go whenever you want. Also however nice the center seems to be I think the actual teacher/caregiver is very important. Even in great centers there are not so good caregivers. It is a good idea to bring a clipboard with you and write down questions and notes. By the way I have worked in preschool for years.
 

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And I agree it is not whether a center actually IS accredited (because they might not really follow the suggestions all the time) but what their recommendations are.<br>
My state has a 5:1 infant/caregiver ratio and no upper limit on the # of infants in a group. I knew this was bad, but I needed to know what is reasonable to look for.<br>
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3 infants to 1 caregiver is the ratio here in Ontario in day care centres but the standard for a home day care seems to be different and more in keeping with my personal standards. They say no more than one under one, two under two, and so on up to a maximum of five per caregiver. It keeps it manageable like the natural spacing of kids in a family (I know many of you handle twins beautifully! Don't flame me!).
 

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i worked at an army child care center, and we were NAEYC accredited. the ratios we had were 6 wks-12 months, 1:4 12-24 months, 1:5, 24-36 months, 1:7, 3yrs-5 yrs 1:10, kindergarteners 1:11.<br><br>
when i did in home care, we could have 6 kids. of those 6, there could be 3 under 36 months, and out of those 3, 2 under 24 months. after age 8 a child (whether it was your own or not) didnt count against your ratio
 

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i worked at an army child care center, and we were NAEYC accredited. the ratios we had were 6 wks-12 months, 1:4 12-24 months, 1:5, 24-36 months, 1:7, 3yrs-5 yrs 1:10, kindergarteners 1:11.<br><br>
when i did in home care, we could have 6 kids. of those 6, there could be 3 under 36 months, and out of those 3, 2 under 24 months. after age 8 a child (whether it was your own or not) didnt count against your ratio
 

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Here in Texas you can also go to the department of children and family services website to see all the licensed providers (center and at home). Online you can search by location, zipcode, type of center, ages accepted, etc. I found it very helpful to read the evaulation reports of the centers. I was able to see what sorts of violations, in any, had occured. Some were minor (e.g. a form not signed) and others very serious (toddlers left unsupervised). It helped me eliminate some centers before I even contacted them for information.<br><br>
The other important/useful thing to do in finding childcare is to talk to your neighbors, friends, etc. to find out where they go and if they are happy.
 
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