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It seems you all have much experience traveling with youngsters long distances. What can I do to make a ten hour flight more tolerable. He will sleep for some...but not all...I hope at least for half. I have the following set up: dvd player and dvds (several brand new never watched), thomas the train color and sticker book, bring some trains/cars, couple cans of play dough. I dont know if I should do anything else. I have a VERY ACTIVE, healthy, almost five year old. He is ALL BOY ALL THE TIME. So....any and all suggestions will be welcomed! Upon landing...we then have a two hour drive!! UGh.
 

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Oh I almost forgot....I checked (just for knowledge) how much business class is...and I thought I had made a grave error! I am shocked by the vast price difference!! I had thought that this may be a good option...not anymore though.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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Oh how I wish I could afford business class as well!<br><br>
Be sure to bring lots of snacks. Of course you will get meals on the plane but my kids are usually les than thrilled with what is offered, and when they get bored a surprise cookie or two helps!<br><br>
Generally, I just let my kids watch the films the whle time. They rarely sleep on those trans-atlantic flights. (I don't know how they do it).<br><br>
I don't know if I would bring playdough. I know in my case that would entail scraping up smashed playdough from the seats and floor.
 

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My kids are younger but some things we did (and are doing next week <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">)<br><br>
Play dough (they played it on the tray, didn't get in the seat at all, I took a few cookie cutters to cut it)<br>
Travel games are good for that age; chess, checkers, etc.<br>
Magnetic play set / games. The kind where all the magnets are stored inside a book type thign and you can make scenes.<br>
Sticker books / colorforms<br>
If you cut a bunch of shapes from different colored pieces of construction paper (I do circles, triangles, rectangles, squares) and give him a blank paper. He can arrange the shapes to make pictures and glue w/ a glue stick.<br>
Etch a scetch / magnadoodle<br><br>
Of course depending on the movies and if they have a "kid channel" he might just be happy to watch the supplied movie the whole time.<br><br>
I second bringing lots of snacks, and some "real food" too if you can. Plane food is iffy at best and not all kids will eat it, even the kid meals. Also bring at least 1 full change of clothes for everyone. Nothing like flying when a child spills a drink all over himself & you.
 

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Are you flying suring the day or at night? Hopefully he will get bored part way through and sleep a little. You have a lot of great suggestions. The only thing I didn't see mentioned was books. Now I realize reading aloud for 10 hours isn't appealing but can you find a longer chapter book that would capture his interest and every hour read a chapter or so? Lots and lots of snacks too. Also see what you can brong as far as liquids because going on pop for 10 hours isn't great. Can you bring his own water bottle? What about books on tape that he can listen to with headphones? A journal to write in? Hope you have a smooth flight.
 

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dvd playuer and new movies<br><br>
leapfrog learning game and new cards for it<br><br>
--- my sis has to travel from VA to MO with her two, now from Penn to Mo with them -- the only time they ge the DVD player is on the tirps back and forth -- be it car or plane.<br><br>
laceing cards<br><br>
books on cd or tape -- where they can turn the pages at teh bell (so you don't have to read for 10 hours).<br><br>
i would not haul too much -- you want new stuff but you do not want a situation where he is digging for new stuff all the time.... YK?and you know ther eis limites space too.<br><br>
books with flaps. new ones he has never seen.
 

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sounds like you are pretty set up. Color wonder books are great too....they only mark on the page.<br><br>
And snacks! Just accept that he might not eat great that day....but happiness is more important. Also, for some reason, my dd always throws up if she has milk while traveling long distances, so make sure you have pretty mild foods....just in case.<br><br>
To cut down on ear ache pain, I actually got dd a lollypop to suck on. She actually didn't love it the way I thought she would, but it did the job during takeoff and landing.<br><br>
Its hard for them to stay still that long, but he might do better then you think. DD is always so interested in the plane and looking outside, that just looking takes up a good amount of her time and I had to use dvds less then I thought.<br><br>
Good luck! It can be done and will be over before you know it!<br><br>
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My ds is younger (3.5) but we've flown a lot, incl. those 10 hour flights, and it's never as bad as I expect. The plane itself always provides some excitement -- walking around, looking out of the windows, asking the cabin staff what all those buttons and levers do (they're usually very friendly). Then there's almost always other kids, who have different toys or are interested in talking with us.<br><br>
I also flew a lot as a kid (grew up in England, my dad moved to the US when I was 3) and my mother would make me and my sister "treasure bags" -- cloth bags filled with various cheap, distracting toys, a couple of new books, a letter from her if she wasn't flying with us, some candy (it's a good time to relax rules). The idea was every half hour or so we would "dip" into the bag and see what we got.
 

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oh and how much has DS flown?<br><br>
My Dn fly abot 3X a year, maybe 2X -- but it is far enough apart that they are always excited by the plane and the windows and watching people, and the general process.<br><br>
I flew with a atime or two and even with the two of them -- if is alwasya a lot better than we plan for, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
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Both my girls like bubble wrap during takeoffs and landings. They'll play happily for hours with foam toys and animals in a tube. The night before we flew we expanded a bunch of sponge toys in capsules (the kind you put into hot water to dissolve the capsule and expand the sponge). The girls couldn't play with them because they "had to dry," so there was a bit of anticipation built up for the next day. <a href="http://www.playfoam.com/" target="_blank">Playfoam</a> is also a hit.<br><br>
I concur about the food. We found boiled eggs to be the best bang for the buck. The girls helped peel them and then got to crush the shells in the bag afterwards.
 

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Absolutely bring extra clothes! My dd spilled italian salad dressing on herself on a plane once~ yuck!<br><br>
How about a hand-held Leapster and some head phones?
 

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Dd is 5. We've flown about 12 trans-atlantic flights with her.<br><br>
I have to disagree with a previous poster about not sleeping. Going East, I've never seen kids *not* sleep for a good portion on the red-eye flights. Coming back West, it's a whole other ball of wax.<br><br>
What airline are you flying and will it be an international flight?
 

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For a flight that long, find out if the plane has plugs for the DVD player. If not, be sure to buy and charge an extra battery. Nothing like losing the battery 1/2 way through a movie to dampen everyone's fun. Also, if you are changing planes, try to find a plug in the airport to recharge things.<br><br>
Definitely on the extra clothes -- for BOTH of you. Also one of the big ziplock bags just in case you have really yucky clothes to store. Sitting in clothes that a child has been sick in (seems to happen with my kids and travel) is bad. Sitting next to a pile of icky clothes is bad too.<br><br>
Other small things that we've had success with: Pipe cleaners, foam stickers and construction paper, kids card games and travel versions of easy kid games (my DS loves checkers), little plastic dinosaurs.<br><br>
Do not take sissors -- even little kid ones.<br><br>
Bring new things out slowly.<br><br>
Don't wrap surprise presents because if anything in your hand luggage raises interest at security they will make you stand there and unwrap everything, while your child watches and howls because the security guy is getting HIS goodies. Ask me how I know this :)
 

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Hit the dollar store and load up on little surprises.<br><br>
Get a book from the library about travel games... there are some excellent ones out there and these don't usually cost anything.<br><br>
If you can't bring a dvd player, then you could try audio books. My ds (5) hasn't been able to get into audio books, though.<br><br>
Snacks galore! They don't have to necessarily be unhealthy (although some of these make great treats and can kill 10-15 mins at a desperate time). My ds thinks anything packaged is a treat. so, those crackers and cheese whiz packages are a hit. Health food stores have tons of healthier packaged snacks.<br><br>
Those magic marker books (the ones with invisible pictures that appear when you color with the magic marker) and sticker activity books. My ds loves mazes and I know they make activity books of just mazes.<br><br>
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Have a good trip!<br><br>
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Stickers stickers stickers and more stickers.<br><br>
We fly long distances every year with our two kids. My oldest is a super-active, high energy girl. Yes, we do a DVD or two, but stickers are really the way to go with our two.<br><br>
Last year, dd1 (then 3 1/2) spent 5 straight hours putting 20 sheets of stickers on paper, then peeling them off and rearranging their order, then doing that again...and again...and again....
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> We have a sticker fiend over here too. My parents found some cute 2-4 pages sticker booklets by Dover that dd just loves for traveling (i.e. forest scene and animals, birthday party scene, etc)<br><br>
I've done the 10 hr trip with 2.... I wouldn't call it easy but it was easier than I anticipated.<br><br>
We also like activity books-- dot to dots, mazes, matching pictures... a lot of different choices in one small book. I also like the "I Spy" books. Last time we had a book of pipe-cleaner art... not sure if your ds would go for it but it was creative, and quiet and not messy. How about some paperback early reader-type books with very few words per page? Or make him a book where he's the "star"-- maybe a story about the trip, people and sights you will see?<br><br>
I wouldn't bring too many small things like cars-- they'll probably end up under the seats.
 

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I thought that the invisible ink coloring books would be a big hit with my daughter, but they totally were not. Since she is used to coloring with real markers, the delay between the drawing of the clear ink until it turns a color really threw her off. She didn't "get" it. But then, she was only 2 and 1/4.<br><br>
We're preparing for a flight to London and I just ordered a whole bunch of colorforms. Check out "My Play Kitchen Sticker Activity Book":<br><br><br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FKitchen-Sticker-Activity-Dover-Little%2Fdp%2F0486409813%2Fref%3Dpd_sim_b_3%2F103-3354687-1719868%3Fie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1177647040%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Sticke...7647040&sr=8-1</a>
 

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You can read my post about this topic <a href="http://happyjetbaby.blogspot.com/2007/04/entertaining-babies-toddlers-and-kids.html" target="_blank">here</a> (and there are other good links on there as well). But I love, love, love the travel stuff put out by <a href="http://www.klutz.com/catalog/category/1004" target="_blank">Klutz</a>.<br><br>
We also called the airline to find out if seatback TV was available with multiple channel choices. We're normally a low-TV family, but having tv option was a very nice fallback on the flights. They usually play a G-rated children's film and a few cartoons on at least one station.
 
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