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Sign this petition! <a href="https://www2.hslda.org/Registrations/DepublishingCaliforniaCourtDecision/" target="_blank">https://www2.hslda.org/Registrations...CourtDecision/</a>
 

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already signed it through another forum, but bumping for others who click "new posts" like I do!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I was just coming here to post this, lol...here's the full e-lert, for anyone who's interested.<br><br>
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From the HSLDA E-lert Service...<br>
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Dear HSLDA Members and Friends:<br><br>
In what could be one of the most important homeschooling related<br>
broadcasts in 25 years, James Dobson interviews HSLDA Chairman Michael<br>
Farris on the developing situation in California.<br><br>
We encourage all homeschoolers to listen to this broadcast, and ask<br>
you to forward this information to anyone who is concerned about<br>
homeschool freedom, parental rights and the direction of our courts.<br><br>
Broadcast: Focus on the Family daily radio broadcast with Dr. James<br>
Dobson.<br><br>
Program Title: California's Threat to Homeschooling Families.<br><br>
Airdate: Friday, March 7, 2008.<br><br>
Since the broadcast is aired on stations across the country at<br>
different times, please visit ----<br><a href="http://listen.family.org/findastation/" target="_blank">http://listen.family.org/findastation/</a> and search for "Daily Focus on<br>
the Family Broadcast" to find the station that covers your area.<br><br>
You can help stop this threat to homeschooling by signing an online<br>
petition to depublish the Court of Appeal opinion at<br><a href="http://hslda.org/elink.asp?ID=4831" target="_blank">http://hslda.org/elink.asp?ID=4831</a><br><br>
Sincerely,<br><br>
Ian Slatter<br>
Director of Media Relations
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">How many signatures do they need?</div>
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No clue. I'm trying to pass it around online to as many as I can.
 

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I can't listen to the radio program because my company considers <a href="http://www.family.org" target="_blank">www.family.org</a> to be inappopriate:<br><br>
In order to ensure a business focus for all Internet browsing and to protect XXXXXX network, filters have been applied on the XXXXXX gateway to the World Wide Web which will prevent the browsing of certain categories of site. These include the following subjects:<br><br>
Anonymizer & Translator<br>
Games<br>
Personal<br>
Chat<br>
Gambling<br>
Politics & Religion<br>
Criminal skills<br>
Hate Speech<br>
Sex<br>
Cults & Occult<br>
Humor<br>
MP3 sites<br>
Dating<br>
Mature<br>
Usenet & News Group<br>
Drugs<br>
Nudity<br>
Entertainment<br>
Obscene & Extreme<br><br>
BTW, this restriction often stops me from visiting some breastfeeding and even secular education websites. PC that's on the verge of unconstitutional, imho.
 

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I just signed it. Make sure each adult in your household signs it, and this is NOT just for homeschoolers to sign! We're talking about families' rights to determine what is best for their children - this has so many far-reaching implications!
 

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I signed!
 

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I signed the petition. This is horrifying!<br><br>
Is signing up under an independant charter school still a viable option if this decision is not overturned? We can't move out of CA for a few years at least.
 

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Before you sign the petition, take a minute to read the take of the Homeschool Association of California.<br><a href="http://www.homeedmag.com/blogs/groupnews/?p=326" target="_blank">http://www.homeedmag.com/blogs/groupnews/?p=326</a><br><br>
HSC is NOT taking the petition approach, and is urging people not to panic. I fear HSLDA may be using this case for self-promotion, because a lot of people join HSLDA out of fear.<br><br>
ZM
 

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Signed it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/notes2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="notes right-handed">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Before you sign the petition, take a minute to read the take of the Homeschool Association of California.<br><a href="http://www.homeedmag.com/blogs/groupnews/?p=326" target="_blank">http://www.homeedmag.com/blogs/groupnews/?p=326</a><br><br>
HSC is NOT taking the petition approach, and is urging people not to panic.</div>
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<span>And, as one of my lawyer friends said today, "It's sort of irrelevant at this point whether 69,000 people sign it or 569,000 people sign it. The Supreme Court makes its decisions on <i>legal arguments</i>, not by majority rule. This isn't a popularity contest."<br><br>
-Lillian</span>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Legislation is often influenced by public opinion. I think it's important to sign this petition.</div>
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But courts don't legislate, they interpret legislation.<br><br>
ZM
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">But courts don't legislate, they interpret legislation.<br><br>
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<span>And this is strictly a court case. The lawyers can argue only about the laws and how they affect the case; the court must consider only the laws and how they affect the case. Public opinion is not part of the scenario. You can read what the HSC legal chair has to say about the whole thing on this page:<br><a href="http://www.hsc.org/appellatedecision" target="_blank">Appellate Court Case, Please Remain Calm</a> We feel that the judge made a faulty ruling, and there are a whole lot of powerful and experienced legal minds at work on how to get this stopped in its tracks. - Lillian<br></span>
 

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Judicial opinions are influenced all the time by public opinion (both for good and bad). If a judge is aware of hundreds of thousands (or more) legitimate signatures on a petition supporting homeschooling, it could well make a difference versus an issue no one seemed to care about. Also, some people in the judicial system are voted in (like district attorneys) so they always have a keen eye on public opinion.
 

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HSLDA has a long history of being rather alarmist in these situations.<br><br><a href="http://hsislegal.com/national.asp" target="_blank">What has HSLDA done on a national level?</a><br><br><a href="http://hsislegal.com/states.asp" target="_blank">What has HSLDA done on a State level?</a>
 

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<span>On a side note, Debbie Schwarzer of the HSC Legal Team made this announcement today to the email list. And yes - you many pass it on!<br></span>
<blockquote></blockquote><span><<I am thrilled to announce that we have been offered help by two of the best law firms in the state (and country). The firms will be helping us on a pro bono basis. That means they will donate (very expensive) attorney time to help us figure out the best strategies for dealing with the court issues, and they will help us prepare and file the letters and briefs that we need.<br><br>
Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich & Rosati, which is headquartered in Palo Alto, will be representing HSC. They had helped HSC back in some of the dark days of Delaine Eastin's time, and their thorough research helped us feel more comfortable that the advice we were giving the world about private homeschooling was correct. In the spirit of full disclosure, you should know that I worked there for many years, but they made the decision to go forward because they think the case presents interesting legal issues and they'd like to be on our side.<br><br>
They will be working very closely with another firm, Baker & McKenzie, which has 150 offices around the world and, conveniently, one across the street from WSGR in Palo Alto. Jerry Salcido, who has been a member of the HSC legal team for several years, is an attorney at that office, and his firm has graciously agreed to donate their services as well. Because we couldn't have two firms working for HSC, Baker and CHN have agreed that CHN will be their named client.<br><br>
We believe that HSC and CHN's interests in this case are very similar. We have similar membership profiles, we want the same results, we both think that help from professionals in dealing with the Supreme Court will be invaluable. The firms will consult with each other to make sure they are not duplicating efforts, but that they also aren't leaving any important arguments out. They will also try to coordinate their efforts with the other groups with which HSC and CHN have been working, HSLDA, CHEA and Family Protection Ministries.<br><br>
I am very excited by this development. I know we're all a smart bunch of people, and maybe we could put these papers together ourselves, but experience here can make the difference. These firms have the experience. I hope you'll continue to support what we are doing.<br><br>
Debbie Schwarzer<br>
Co-chair HSC legal team>><br></span>
<span><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Lillian<br><br></span>
 
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