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relaztion was my MAJIOR downfall with birth one. i got so wound up, and so tense and so stressed out............<br><br>
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I got the book and the CD.<br><br>
this one -- <a href="http://www.hypnobirthing.com/" target="_blank">http://www.hypnobirthing.com/</a><br><br>
I have not yet read the book <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> DS will play and climb on me if i type -- but when i read a book he pulls it away and won't share.<br><br>
I love the track 2 on the rainbow cd the realxtion part.<br><br>
have not listened to the cd that come IN the book.<br><br>
ok here are a bunch of questions<br><br>
1. how do you intergrate it with other labor stuff -- it seems like the HB relaxion dictates you be laying down... sinking into the rainbow -- well what about walking to speed up labor, move baby, increase dilation? or do you "save" it till later when it is harder to cope -- wlaking and moving and so on early?<br><br>
2. did you literally listen to the CD the whole labor?<br><br>
3. if you get upset -- and loose the relaxtion -- do you just go back to where you are -- or do you start the CD over and start over?<br><br>
4. are you / were you really out of it for the whole labor -- it seems like you are not supposed to talk to people, interact, just lay there and melt <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> -- was it this way the whole time --<br><br>
5. how did "other" relation things fit in -- or other coping -- shower, massage, walking, etc?<br><br>
I will think of more -- but am very intrest to hear what you have to say -- kinda oa "reality" story.<br><br>
Aimee
 

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heyla!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
There's a yahoo group (<a href="http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hypnobabies/" target="_blank">http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hypnobabies/</a>) open to all mamas interested in learning about or using hypnosis for birth...it's a wonderful resource and the mamas there are familiar with all sorts of different hypnosis for birth programs. A lot of mdc mamas are also on that list and the yahoo group also has a wonderful archive/faq section so please come over and check it out!<br><br>
One thing I'd like to point out is that while the Mongan Method (the one book/one cd method that includes the rainbow relaxation technique) is a great resource, it was designed to be used along with a hypnosis class. Some mamas who are just using the book (and not taking a Mongan Method class as well) find that the book/cd just isn't enough to prepare them for birth. So some of your questions are things that would be covered in a class setting with a trained instructor.<br><br>
Programs like HypnoBabies (<a href="http://www.hypnobabies.com/home.php" target="_blank">http://www.hypnobabies.com/home.php</a>) and HypBirth (<a href="http://hypbirth.com/" target="_blank">http://hypbirth.com/</a>) are designed as stand alone home study programs and go into MUCH more detail regarding how to use hypnosis during birth and how to maintain focus/relaxation while moving about or making use of other support techniques.<br><br>
I started with the Mongan Method but moved pretty quickly to the HypnoBabies program since I wanted a "complete" course...and the two workbooks and 6 cds provided the sort of ongoing instruction and support I felt I needed.<br><br>
Anyway, I'm sure mamas here will have some great feedback on the different birth hypnosis programs, but check out that yahoo group too...there are lots of mamas there who have used all sorts of different programs and no matter which one you choose it's great to have a forum where you can ask anything and know that SOMEONE will have BTDT!
 

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I chose Hypbirth. I preferred it, because I didn't have to do it all in one sitting. Oh, yes, in one <i>sitting</i> - lying down is not recommended. Some of the segments were as short as five minutes, some as long as twenty. As a UC'er, I appreciated a program that I could do all by myself.<br><br>
I never felt my contractions, so I never used the contraction cd. I did use the relaxation cd during part of my labor. I never went into a hypnotic state during labor, because I never felt my contractions (and thus never had the cue of when to start.) Or, I practiced it so very well, that I never felt my contractions without having to consciously enter a hypnotic state. I had a painless labor and birth. Regardless, I was really pleased with the program. I did look into the others, but I preferred Lori Dorman's method over the Mongan Method.
 

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I would love that -- but nothng within 3+ hours.<br><br>
I will be sure to look at the other programs -- but i do not have the money to "start over" DH would freak. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:<br><br>
and I will look into the yahoo group too.<br><br>
Thanks
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"> I'm left handed...? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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We couldn't afford a "real live in person" class, which is why we went with HypnoBabies. I felt like it had the support and sturcture but was a bit more affordable and would work around my schedule (DH and I WOH on opposite shifts so we can have "family" care for our two year old as much as possible).<br><br>
I do know that the HypnoBabies website sometimes has "discounted" packages (used but in great shape) and the yahoo group is one place to look for used HypBirth and HypnoBabies material. I think the HypnoBabies program also has a few "supplemental" cds that are designed for mamas using a less in-depth program to sort of "round things out".<br><br>
Happy birthing! I'm really looking forward to my birth experience...
 

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Hi -- I'll try to answer some of your questions by telling you how it worked out for me. I did the "Mongan Method" with a class and CD. The CD was amazing, zoned me out for like 3-4 hours at a time every day during my pregnancy. One of the affirmations, though, stuck with me, and I think it was a good thing it did -- "I am prepared for any turn my birth might take." Mine didn't take an unusual turn, but it didn't turn out to be the zen experience the ladies had in the videos we watched in class. I had ideas about how labor would go, but I ended up having to drop those and wing it along the way.<br><br>
So. When my water broke contractions came on rather quickly. I went to the bedroom to lie down and listen to the CD's, and they helped a little for maybe half an hour, but then stopped helping. Once I stood up, then tried to lie down again, lying down was excruciating, so I went into the bathroom. I had a different CD playing, a Bengali lullaby that I had in the CD changer after the Hypnobirthing CD, and I could hear it in the bathroom, but I was kind of over it. I discovered just quietly breathing was not enough, so I had to moan through the breathing, which changed the way the breathing worked, but it was okay, it did what I needed it to do. I tried lots of different positions -- bathtub, sitting on the toilet, standing, marching in place, birthball. Eventually I got into a pattern where I stood hanging my arms on the shower track during contractions, breathing and moaning, then sitting on the birth ball between contractions. When I was on the birth ball I did the breathing and was able to relax into the hypnobirthing zone, even though it was only for a couple minutes (contractions were every 3-5 minutes through almost the whole time). By the time my midwife arrived and checked I was almost fully dialated, so I ran downstairs and got in the birth pool. At that point, I was getting into transition and pushing contractions, and those were so crazy I just had to scream my way through them, but again, I was able to relax in between. I think the most important part was that hypnobirthing helped me be emotionally calm, even when I couldn't be physically calm.<br><br>
So, for me, I didn't get the painless birth experience, and I don't think it's because I did it wrong. It just wasn't in the cards for me, the way labor came on so fast. I didn't have a chance to ease into it. However, the preparation I did helped me handle the pain very calmly, so that the whole experience went smoothly and quickly -- 4 hours of labor start to finish! I really think it's excellent to use hypnobirthing as tools during labor, but that it's a mistake to expect it to define your labor in any particular way.
 

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wonderful story<br><br>
were you listening to the CD the whole time ? I don't think you were, but want to be sure.<br><br>
were you "activly" thinking about the rainbow relaxtion?<br><br>
thus were you actually USEING the stuff in labor -- or was it just that it had taught you so well tt relax that it was now a skill you had?<br><br>
Aimee
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">wonderful story<br><br>
were you listening to the CD the whole time ? I don't think you were, but want to be sure.<br><br>
were you "activly" thinking about the rainbow relaxtion?<br><br>
thus were you actually USEING the stuff in labor -- or was it just that it had taught you so well tt relax that it was now a skill you had?<br>
Aimee</div>
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I wasn't... I gave up on the CD about half an hour or an hour into labor. For a while, I did move on to the other CD I had attached into my mind in hypnobirthing -- I had it in the CD changer for most of my pregnancy for when the hypnobirthing CD ended. But after a while, I really preferred silence and shut them all off. I also didn't think about the rainbow stuff much, really... you're right, I just was so used to the relaxation that I did it without the CD. Also, I really went inside my head and was able to stay there, if that makes any sense. The CD helped teach me to do that, but wasn't required in labor.<br><br>
Also, I thought of something else you asked -- I mostly zoned out my Dh and midwives, though they were pretty quiet through most of it. But when I did need to interact, I just did. It didn't take me out of hypnobirthing. However, with a homebirth and a very dark, calm enviroment, this was easy. I don't know if it would have been as easy in, say, a hospital.
 

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I forgot to mention...the yaoo group has lots and lots of birth stories divided up by where the birth took place, whether or not medication was used, how mama felt during the birth, etc. So if you know where you'll be delivering then you can look at birth stories from mamas using different techniques in a similar birth setting.<br><br>
HTH!
 

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I did use the Hypnobirthing CDs during my 68.5 hour labor, but the contractions kept pulling me out of my trance, and my labor did not progress unless I was up and moving around (contrary to what Mongan states in her book). The breathing and visualization did help me during contractions, but I also needed to moan through each one. I loved the birthing affirmations, they became part of my subconscious and gave me strength when I really needed it!
 
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