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I had an ultrasound on Aug 20 when I was almost 8 weeks including those two weeks when you're not really pregnant.<br>
I have a unicornuate uterus and they were just checking to make sure the baby had implanted in my uterus not a tube.<br>
I got the results today and the radiologist requested a follow-up because he did not find any matter in the area where there should be intestines. He was very vague and just said that there was an empty space where there might be intestines or kidneys.<br>
Now, I am pretty sure that kidneys aren't noticeable at this early of a date but what could this mean? The amniotic fluid was normal which leads me to beleive the baby has a fully functioning body. I know that sometimes the intestines are outside the abdominal cavity or various other anomolies. Has there ever been a baby who just didn't have them period? It seems as though my body would miscarry (as it has done a couple other times) if the baby wasn't functioning properly. I know that babies swallow and pee their fluid. I would think that a baby without intestines wouldn't be able to do this.<br>
If anyone has any insight, let me know.<br>
Thanks so much.<br>
Tiffany
 

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OK, I can't really say anything except go back in a few weeks. I thought they only did u/s that early for dating purposes; when I had a routine u/s to actually check on the fetus it wasn't until 16 weeks.<br><br>
If your baby has a birth defect that causes internal organs not to develop, it might be picked up by a triple marker blood test, but I think 8 weeks is too early for that as well.
 

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Tiffany -- so sorry the report was vague. I don't know a lot about US, but I would think a 6 week fetus wouldn't be all that easy to see. I would think that it might be rather usual to not see everything at that point.<br><br>
Hugs to you. I hope you can get an answer soon. And, that you see a beautiful heathy baby! Best wishes!
 

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I have to agree, i wouldn't make any assumptions at only 8 weeks... how can they see anything then? I also think you are right about the kidneys too... I would wait till at least 12-14 weeks and go back...(if you are planning on making any decisions)... otherwise wait til 16 weeks...
 

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This seems to be one of those cases where technology causes stress from too much information (or really, lack thereof).<br>
There is no way to determine all the organs in a fetus that young, we had an ultrasound (didn't really want one, but had one anyway) too early at week 16 and they couldn't see the kidneys, so it caused us undue stress and a lot of $ to repeat it at week 20!<br><br>
If the baby has no intestines, your body will probably naturally miscarry and that can happen up until week 12 (it can obviously happen later, but up until week 12 is the biggest percentage, that is why we never tell anyone we are expecting until we are past that week 12 mark).<br><br>
Don't worry, wayyyy too early, tons of women don't even know they are pregnant at that early of gestation, so just hang in there and repeat, if you want (don't let them pressure you), at week 18 at least, 19-20 is better.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I had an u/s with my first at 9 wks (7 wks from conception) and with this third one at 11 1/2 wks (9 1/2 from conception) and there was no way on either one of them that they could have seen anything other than the beating of the heart. Heck, neither one of them looked much like a baby on that screen. I think your tech overreacted.
 

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I agree that it sounds like an overreaction. I can't believe they scared you like that with such a vague report! I know it is really hard but try to relax and go back in a couple of months for another ultrasound. I just can't see how they can see something like that in such a teeny baby. I'm sure everything's fine.
 

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I'm sorry they told you that! I had an ultrasound at 10 weeks to confirm the HB and there is no way anything that detailed could be seen. The baby is soooo tiny still, especially at 6 weeks. At 18 weeks it was clear as day. As hard as it is, I would try not to worry. Most likely everything is fine. I really still can't believe they told you that! I'm sure your baby is fine and you will get to see it and all of it's perfectly formed and working parts in a few weeks.
 

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I had an u/s at 20 weeks with my first, and they couldn't see all the organs well enough, I think the kidneys. I ended up having to go back a few weeks later to have another one, and everything was clear.
 

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Thanks, I am not super worried. I just have a hard time understanding why this radiologist would even mention it if he had any experience with these, like I know he does. I just needed to hear how stupid it was of him to put this information in the report.
 

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Even if I were the type to terminate a pregnancy, I sure wouldn't do it on the basis of any prenatal testing, since it's so frequently wrong. We all know how u/s isn't accurate at predicting a due date or fetal weight...
 

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Maybe the tech misread and thought you were 18 weeks instead of 8? Sounds like a misunderstanding to me, I don't think you could see a clear definition of organs at that age.
 

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I had an ultrasound today (41 weeks) but i told the tech about you and she said, first of all kidneys are the HARDEST little things to find, but if they weren't there at all, your body would self abort. Second of all, you can't ever see instestines until like 19 weeks, and even then they aren't devloped... she said they are hard to see even at my ultrasound today!<br><br>
she's great, i think she really knows what she's talking about, she's been doing ultrasounds for 20 years.<br><br>
Hope that make syou feel better!!<br><br>
She actually said that you probably misheard what they said just from the sounds of it.
 

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If you are going to an appointment any time in the near future (like a 12 week checkup), maybe a quick listen to the heartbeat witha doppler would ease your mind. Shoot, your prenatal care provider might be happy to do it for you without a regular appointment to put your mind to rest. Then you could decide whether or not to follow through with another U/S.<br>
I'm so sorry for the inconsiderate report you received, some people just don't think about what their words might actually mean to someone.<br>
Take care,<br>
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Thanks for the post about asking the tech. That really helped. I live in a small town and have to say that this radiologist has misdignosed me on several occasions with my other daughter.<br>
I wish I had heard wrong but my midwife and I even talked about me being scared of something being wrong with the baby. She read it to me twice and it said that in the area where intestines or kidneys should be present, there is just an empty space.<br>
I would think that he would know that a baby that isn't even an inch long is hard enough to see period and wouldn't have just put that crap in the report. He just sits around all day looking at ultrasounds and making reports about them. Probably doesn't care at all who he freaks out.<br>
Thanks again. I feel pretty confident that things are fine.<br>
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I don't think they can tell much at 8 weeks except that the heart is beating and the baby is about the size it should be. It was wrong of them to make you worry like that.<br><br>
BTW the intestines are in the cord until later in the pg. Then they migrate into the intestinal cavity.<br><br>
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Glad to help... besides, it was on my mind since i read your post... i had to know for myself!! The ultrasoundist was like "WHAT?????" so don't even listen to that wacko!!
 

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I would pay that radiologist absolutely no mind. When I had an ultrasound to confirm whether I was carrying one baby or two, the report that came back and talked about some area in the brain being larger than normal, and indicative of some neurological disorder (cannot remember what, but it requires the implantation of a shunt to relieve fluid pressure...shutter). I worried for weeks until my next pre-natal visit. My mw look one look at it and rolled her eyes. Whatever he was seeing was within normal range (maybe high end of normal, but normal). She was very irritated that they had made a prognosis without there being other risk factors.<br><br>
In other words, they can be wrong. They can also put things in the report that is routine to them (that they couldn't see intestines...doesn't mean they don't think they are there, just that they cannot see them) and doesn't mean anything "bad" to them, but can freak a mama out.<br><br>
BTW, I just carry REALLY big...one baby, was always one baby. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Hi again, I wanted to let everyone know that I finally was able to talk with the specialist I have never seen but will be seeing soon. She lives three hours away so it isn't completely convenient. She said that the intestines aren't even in the body cavity at that early of an age. So the radiologist noting "empty space" is of course going to happen. She made me feel a lot better and sounded in her voice like the doctor was completely out of his mind mentioning something like that. I start the 12th week tomorrow and am feeling much better about things. I didn't realize how much this was getting me down.<br>
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I was under the impression that radiologists weren't even doctors. Which may explain why the idiot didn't even know that the intestines weren't even supposed to be there. With our HMO the radiologists are not allowed to give you any information. They pass on what they observe to the doctors who then talk with you. And the doctors also get a chance to see the ultrasounds so they can make their own determination. This guy sounds completely incompetent at his job.
 
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