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I need night time help!

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(I need day time help, too, but that's a different story)


OK, I am trying to figure out the best night time solution. My baby pees on average 4-6 times at night. I don't think it's a food sensitivity, but I am going to experiment with that anyway.

She hates being put on the potty, she hates being taken to the potty, she hates it when I clean up the pee if she's naked bottom, she hates diaper change, and any of those typically cause her (and me) to become fully awake. I don't know what else there is. She doesn't like sleeping in a wet diaper, either, so I can't just leave her in the diaper. (A few nights that has worked, but it's rare.) She typically wakes up, is dry, nurses, and then pees right as she's falling asleep. That will most often wake her back up, sometimes it won't if she has a diaper on. The other night I tried disposable diapers, and that worked great for two nights.

When she sleeps naked, she moves and pees to the side of wherever she is sleeping, which is a neat sign of her awareness, to me, but also leads to bigger messes. If she's clothed, her clothes generally get wet. Some nights I get wet but she doesn't.

Any suggestions welcome! Or maybe the MDC magic will kick in and this will be solved for good! Or maybe I resign myself to crappy interrupted sleep for awhile. Easy to say in the light of day, hard to do at night!
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Oh man, that sounds brutal!
I don't have the magic bullet I'm afraid, but here's what worked for us. I did the tie-yourself-in-a-pretzel-to-nurse-while-pottying-the-baby maneuver for a long time until she finally started holding it at night. I would clamp (important to clamp, otherwise bucket of pee all over the bed) our potty bowl between my thighs (I stored potty bowl in the co-sleeper since Lord knows my dd wasn't sleeping in there!), hold dd in a cradle hold with right arm under her neck and shoulders and left arm under her near leg and left hand holding her outside leg just above the knee. Latch her on and tuck that bootie deep down inside the potty bowl. Make noise and hope. After pee, wipe baby butt without unlatching, CAREFULLY put the potty bowl back into the co-sleeper (if you're super organized and baby is peeing multiple times a night it might be worth having a bucket to dump pee bowl into...I did this at my parents house when spilling the potty bowl would have been a BIG no no), and lie down without unlatching. Whew! It was a bit complicated but worked for us... Good luck!!!
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Thanks for the hug and suggestion. I might try something like that. The other thing she does once in awhile is pee before waking me up! But she only seems to do that when nakey, oh gosh, I don't know!!!! I don't have a potty bowl, but I think it might work to plop her on the potty and start nursing. Maybe. Thank you for the lovely pretzel description!
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Thanks for the hug and suggestion. I might try something like that. The other thing she does once in awhile is pee before waking me up! But she only seems to do that when nakey, oh gosh, I don't know!!!! I don't have a potty bowl, but I think it might work to plop her on the potty and start nursing. Maybe. Thank you for the lovely pretzel description!

We didn't have an official potty bowl or anything. We just used a plastic salad bowl (not metal 'cause it's too cold)...
It's still encrusted with nastiness despite multiple times through the dishwasher and soaking in vinegar water! Ah well, it was worth sacrificing!
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Ah, I was wondering about that. Worth a try! I was thinking when I posted this that I hadn't yet tried anything like what you were describing. I'm glad you mentioned this idea of nursing and pottying. I didn't really need to do this when she was tiny. Well, I had diapers on her in the beginning, and very early on she squirmed instead of nursing and let me know she had to pee. Those were the days!
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Ah, I was wondering about that. Worth a try! I was thinking when I posted this that I hadn't yet tried anything like what you were describing. I'm glad you mentioned this idea of nursing and pottying. I didn't really need to do this when she was tiny. Well, I had diapers on her in the beginning, and very early on she squirmed instead of nursing and let me know she had to pee. Those were the days!
Yeah, my dd used to allow herself to be pottied without a boob in her mouth at night. Back in the days of the "pop on and off nursing" being a huge cue at night. But then one day she decided that she wasn't into pottying at night without a boob. And then one day she randomly decided to hold it all night (i.e. she fought me tooth and nail even WITH the boob in her mouth!). So it will happen! Good luck!

ETA: And happy BIRTHDAY mama!
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Oh, it's nice to hear that things change over time!

She has held it all night two times in the last six months or so. I had a friend here visiting. Makes me want to get a roommate!

Thanks for the birthday wishes! It's been lovely thinking about this time last year! What an amazing time! I can't believe I have a one year old daughter!!
OK, first just have to say that i LOL 'd about your parenthetical comment. we've started walking this week. need i say more?

i was going to also suggest peeing at the boob - but i thought it might be easier with just a prefold held under her nakey butt? then just remove it when she's done?

though honestly i personally wouldn't hesitate to diaper at night if that works. have you tried a pocket style diaper? that might be more comfortable for her. though if she's peeing that many times you'll probably still need to change her at least once i'd guess.

hopefully you'll get it straightened out soon!
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I'm glad you got a good laugh, pixiepunk! You can relate!!! It's crazy that your daughter is walking, when I joined here my babe was three months old and yours was only two months old!!!!

I think we're just at a funky place night-time-wise. It doesn't help that she most definitely could be considered on a potty-strike. (Not sure what the formal definition is, but as of 4:15 today we haven't caught a single pee! Morning poop, yes, pees, no.)

I went to be a little early last night, so I wasn't quite so unsettled and grumpy when she woke me up the first time.

Thanks for the ideas!
Hi! Sleeping time was never easy with my DS (generally woke up every 1.5-2 hours for about 2 years), so we always had to try different things. One thing that worked the best and gave me the best sleep was to have him sleep totally naked on top of a Nekkie Blankie. Because a Nekkie Blankie has a stay dry top layer (fleece like but different), absorption layer in the middle and a waterproof PUL layer underneath, DS could pee on it and the wetness would just go through and he wouldn't feel it. I would not have to move him or change anything. Since he was naked his clothing did not get wet. Of course this only works in real nice warm weather...But since he did not wake up for pees this way, it did not wake him enough to want to nurse. Less nursing=less peeing in general=better sleeping!! This was the best sleep I ever had with him. Ahhh, I remember the days....

If your baby is too squirmy to stay on a Nekkie Blankie, I know they used to make custom bigger sizes and/or make them so 2 of them could attach together. Tribal baby also has a list of pp pads, but I would make sure you get one with a stay dry top.
http://www.tribalbaby.org/ECClothing.html#ecmats
But maybe you tried this already....

We also did diapers with a fleece stay dry inside and that worked here and there, because he couldn't feel the wetness so much.

But mostly, I had crappy sleep for 2 years, and still do. But now he only wakes up about 1-3 times a night which doesn't feel so bad! My other non-EC's child was like this too though, so I don't blame EC for the bad, bad sleep babies!

Hope some of that helps. Oh, and maybe fleece or soft wool jammies? At least clothing wouldn't get wet that way. Sometimes we use fleece open crotch pants (baby chaps) with a diaper or drop flap trainer on top.

PS I want your socks! I'll email ya
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What kind of potty are you putting her on at night? I would really encourage using a bowl or something between your legs that she doesnt even realize shes touching. Make the cue, possibly while nursing.

For night time, the least you can disrupt them the better I have found.
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