I need some information about why it can be good to delay

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acrathbun

Discussion Starter · Apr 8, 2006

teaching reading. You know, like Waldorf doesn't until 8 or so & Finland doesn't until 7.

Links would be great.

I'm specifically looking for information about *when* most children are developmentally able to read (esp. boys)

My ped & I were at a Medical Home Conference yesterday. He's just turned 4 and is at a church pre-school. The ladies there are *drilling* these 4yr olds on the alphabet, reading, states, etc. & she wants to be able to take some concrete information to the director. She's said it makes her feel sick to think that these kids are being drilled at such an early age.

Thanks!

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momofcutie

· #2 · Apr 8, 2006

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I'm interested in this too-for my own homeschooling purposes. I didn't push potty training. It was so much easier, less stressful, and quicker because I waited until my son was ready. I'm thinking other "skill-based" things will be like that too. So I'm looking forward to hearing what others have to say. Thanks for asking this question!

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CrazyRED

· #3 · Apr 9, 2006

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First, don't subject your children to formal, scheduled study before age 8 to 10 or 12, whether they can read or not. To any who differ, as their evidence let them read Better Late Than Early (BLTE) or School Can Wait (SCW). In addition to our basic research at Stanford and the University of Colorado Medical School, we analyzed over 8000 studies of children's senses, brain, cognition, socialization, etc., and are certain that no replicable evidence exists for rushing children into formal study at home or school before 8 or 10.

Dorothy & Raymond Moore have written a lot about this.

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Lillian J

· #4 · Apr 9, 2006

I'm on the run, but I've collected a lot of good articles on this subject that you can find on this page - be sure to read the Call to Action on the Education of Young Children, a statement signed by over 150 educators and researchers calling for the reversal of the pushing down of the curriculum into younger and younger grades.

preschool/kindergarten

And I noticed the suggestion of the Moore books

- there's a lot of research cited in those. They do try to promote their own ideas about raising children - things like not picking them up so much, as I remember, not making food particularly tasty because they need to learn that we eat to live not live to eat, etc. - but you can easily ignore those thngs.

- Lillian

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acrathbun

Discussion Starter · #5 · Apr 9, 2006

Thank you all so much. I remembered as I read your post, Lillian, that I have your website bookmarked. I have sent her a link to a couple of articles on there.

To be honest, the Moore's creep me out a bit. I appreciate all of their hard work, years of pioneering the hsing effort, but they just give me the willies. I'm sure it's my issue.

Anyway, thanks again!

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rumi

· #6 · Apr 9, 2006

literacy opens windows but also draws us away from other ways of receiving, perceiving and communicating .... if you live among nonliterate societies you will be amazed at their clear thinking and incredible memory. i would be happy if my dd waited a few more years so that she had more of a chance to develop these other skills. but she is surrounded by book addicts and seems to be picking up the habit early. which just means that we have to take care to get outside and do other things and not just hole up with books all day.

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Alenushka

· #7 · Apr 10, 2006

there was not way I woul be able to dleay my kid;s reading untill 7....he jsut started readin at 4. we never dirlle. He adsked us baout sign ont he streets, we read it said it why is what "Shop is Sh is soun that come together than Sh are nearvy etc
He acutlly started writing firt, he kep askin us how the words are splled. Evey kid is diffrent.

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rumi

· #8 · Apr 10, 2006

for example, the other day she heard someone singing "on the ning nang nong ..." it was the first time either of us had heard this. an hour later, as I was looking up this poem to get the words, I could hear her already reciting several lines of it. good thing she can't read!!

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guest^

· #9 · Apr 10, 2006

Thanks for the links! My ds will be 5 in early July. I will then begin preschool with him....at a *really* relaxed pace. KInder can wait till next year. Why? He is simply not ready. We don't drill. Most of his day is spent on free play. I will bring out puzzles, paper,crayons,paste,scissors,etc. But he will sit with those for maybe 15-20 mins. He is sooo into athletics and pretend play.

My dh is in the art computer world, and he has sat at conference where the speqakers are from major computer game companies,etc...they all say the same thing. There is nothing new. College kids are copying then tweaking games,ads,etc...and the reason they give is that these kids were exposed to academics too early. They weren't given ample time to have fun and just play,play ,play! Therefore, their minds were only absorbing what they saw on tv, and not things they *discovered* from playing on their own. Sad.

As a rule(not always!), boys just develop later-in every area. Academics for sure.

Each kid is different. I will say, that I have a friend who just gushed over her highly gifted ds who *only* wanted to read, and never go outside. As he was the exception, it has taken a toll(sp?) on his social skills and health, as he is now overweight,and has no desire to exercise.

JMH.02

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