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We have had some snakes living under the back step (concrete) for awhile now. Until this morning, we have never seen more than one at a time, so we weren't even sure if there was more than one even.<br><br>
So, this morning, dd and I were out picking raspberries and she said, "Mom, you have to come here right now." I had put that bird netting over the raspberry bushes and didn't finish, so I just tossed the roll next to the bushes. I went to see what she was looking at and found that there is currently a PILE of snakes underneath the netting. Ewwww, ewwww, ewwww! My grandma told me a story about a couple that lives somewhere near her who's house became totally infested with snakes and they had to move out!!!! I am freaking out here. How the heck do I get rid of them? This is too much now. A snake or two eating mice is fine, but piles of snakes make my skin crawl!<br><br>
I am also worried that they might kill the dog. Laugh if you have to, but she's just shy of 3.5lbs and it really could happen.
 

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borrow a cat to defend the dog <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
my grandma kept cats to keep away snakes....<br>
its an impressive sight to see a large tom fighting a rattlesnake....
 

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There were some here when we first built the house, but then the coyotes moved into the area as well, and, well, I guess they do a better job of keeping the cats away than cats do of keeping the snakes away.
 

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Oh. My.<br><br>
The skin on the back of my neck is now all prickly. And when ds2 crawled over my foot just now I shrieked and jumped a foot. Thanks.<br><br><br>
Move. Move far, far, FAR away.
 

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Maybe its snake mating season? Or perhaps they were having a party<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> . I would leave them (as long as they aren't poisonous) because they will very likely disperse in a day or two. One area can't support too many of the same animal because the food supply will crash.
 

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Stankin' server! Let me try this again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
They are garter snakes, but, they are really big. Like 3 ft long and one of them is over 2 inches in diameter! :puke I don't know what the heck they are eating, but it's must a lot.<br><br>
I talked with a botanist at the University of Madison and he said that I need to clear away any possible places that they can keep warm under near the house. I am gonna have to dig up all the gravel around the front and back steps and then put up flashing all the way around and then push the gravel back around it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> How convienient that dh works away from home. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I have to do this before the deck guy comes in a few weeks, or we'll never be able to get rid of them.<br><br>
So, my wee little, waaaay yucky, update is this:<br>
I went out to see if by any chance they relocated out from under the bird netting. I walked as close as I could stomach and realized that they are all stuck in the netting! I don't know if they are alive or not because I just don't have the guts to poke them and see. If I do, and just one of them squirms out, I just know I will shriek. Good if they are dead, but worse if they are not. A wee bit of me feels bad if they are suffering though. Just a bit. So, now my hopes of them going away are smashed to bits. They are gonna stay there until I do something with them, dead or alive. I really don't feel well now. I was hungry, until I went outside.<br><br>
Now what the heck am I supposed to do? If I call the neighbor, he is just gonna die laughing. I am sure he'll help me, but I will never live it down. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">: I think that's a risk I am willing to take though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
What would you do now?<br><br>
Oh, and the botanist said there really isn't much you can do "control" wise for snakes outside. You just need to eliminate inviting areas for them.
 

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THERE ARE <b>MOTHER-SCARING</b> SNAKES AT YOUR <b>MOTHER-SCARY</b> HOUSE!!!!<br><br>
I will send Samuel L Jackson ASAP!<br><br><br>
Seriously... call your local humane society. At the very least they should be able to help you ID the kind of snakes and determine danger level. They may have ideas for removal, also.
 

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It is. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: So, there's gonna be more, lots more. They like to sun themselves while the "cook" their babies.
 

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Yikes.<br>
Couldn't read and not post.<br>
I feel bad to tell you to kill them...could you relocate them, or call animal control in your area? Ask them if they could check your property for infestation. My heart goes out to you.<br>
I am all goose-bumpy thinking about it. Good luck.
 

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ick ick ick. Call the neighbor and ask him to help. It would be totally worth him dealing w/ the snakes even if you are going to get teased. ick snakes.
 

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Well, we don't have a mice problem, but the UW Madison guy said that those snakes don't typically eat mice. They usually eat frogs and other things. They'll eat mice if they are really, really hungry though. Odd. I thought for sure they were eating all the mice. I see very few.<br><br>
Just wanted to add that I went out there again, and atleast one is not dead. It was squirming around like mad in the netting. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I tried calling the humane society and they are closed today. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: I called the UW Extension office in the area and got nothing but voicemails. The DNR was completely useless too. They aren't any help unless they are telling you what they want you to do with your property. I talked to the neighbor lady and she's gonna leave a message for her dh. She said they were wondering where all the snakes they had last year went. Isn't that funny? Not.
 

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Awww, thanks. That's really sweet. Especially since we are talking about snakes.
 

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Wow. Any garter snake this big around here would be considered a "giant garter snake"--protected as a federally designated threatened species. You'd be facing very expensive fines here in California if you deliberately kill a giant garter snake, or even knowingly disturb their habitat. You can even be hit with huge fines for disturbing their habitat *unknowingly*, though it's mostly developers and farmers that are targeted.<br><br>
I don't think they're found anywhere else in the world, so yours probably isn't a giant garter snake--but my advice for anybody in central CA looking at a garter snake this size is just leave it be.
 

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I wish I could come help.<br><br>
They freak me out too but, I have learned to deal. I have a suggestion but it involves extermination and some people might not want to hear it so... PM me.<br><br>
This will only work if they aren't right next to the house, if you have a hose, and, live in the country.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow. Any garter snake this big around here would be considered a "giant garter snake"--protected as a federally designated threatened species. You'd be facing very expensive fines here in California if you deliberately kill a giant garter snake, or even knowingly disturb their habitat. You can even be hit with huge fines for disturbing their habitat *unknowingly*, though it's mostly developers and farmers that are targeted.<br><br>
I don't think they're found anywhere else in the world, so yours probably isn't a giant garter snake--but my advice for anybody in central CA looking at a garter snake this size is just leave it be.</div>
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Well if it is a protected species, you can probably get someone to remove it for you
 

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One more thing: garter snakes aren't troublemakers. They don't hurt anybody. I'd explore ways to annoy them just enough that they decide to move somewhere else...it sounds like maybe that's why they left the neighbor's and came to your place.
 
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