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Dd (17 weeks) is now going on day 5 of near constant screaming, not crying, not fussing, full out screaching. I've given her homeopathics for her teething, I've given her a homeopathic for colic, I've given her her zantac for her reflux, I've given her rescue remedy and I even broke down and have given her a couple doses of infant motrin because she seems to be in pain.<br>
Nothing will calm her, holding her, rocking her, walking her, singing to her, sitting calmly with her, changing her diaper, NOTHING.<br>
She is however still sleeping through the night-as a matter of fact last night she slept from 11 to 7:30 this morning. However, I can't sleep, both because by then end of the day I'm so frazzled and stressed i can't calm down and secondly I guess I'm worried something is wrong with her.<br><br>
I even called my chiro in for an emergency adjustment on her on Saturday because she does have a slight neck problem and usually after she's adjusted she is very calm for a good few days. Not this time.<br><br>
This is unusual for her, she is normally such a relaxed baby, yeah she cries, but even if it takes a bit we can usually figure out why she's crying and solve it for her.<br><br>
I am at the end of my rope and I'm not coping well, I'm crying while I'm typing this because right now dd is in her co-sleeper with her mobile on and the bedroom door closed because I was honestly really getting mad at her. I've been close before to leaving her alone but I've never done it and part of me can't believe I've done it now, but I really think she's safer in there for the moment.<br><br>
Please don't flame me, I know this is not a good parenting choice but I've never actually been angry at her before and the fact that I am scares me.
 

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Maybe she has a hidden ailment- like an earache or something? Have you checked her out with the ped, just in case?<br><br>
I know it's hard. Anyone who can help with her- spend a little time so you can clear your head? Hang in there mama!
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> hang in there mama.
 

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oh, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
I think the biggest thing you need is a hug, this is SO hard. I've been there. It is sooo hard to think, "where has my mothering instinct gone?" It's still there... I promise. It's just sooo hard.<br><br>
If I were you I'd take her to the doc to rule out any ear infections, etc...<br><br>
Please forgive yourself for leaving her alone for a little bit. I agree that if you feel she is better off for a few minutes not feeling your anger (I do think they can sense that), then that IS a good parenting choice. It IS the right thing to do.<br><br>
If you breastfeed, can you nurse her everytime she gets upset?? Does that calm her down? She's still very little, maybe she's having a growth spurt and needs the extra nutrition. When my little one was teething, around this age, I literally wore her in the sling with my shirt up and boob available all day long if possible. She was so much more calm that way.<br><br>
Hugs, hugs and more hugs to you... you're doing a great job, hopefully you'll get some encouragement here.
 

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Hugs momma - I don't know what to tell you. You might get her checked my a ped.<br><br>
DS went through a similar phase at that age for about 3 weeks. No matter how many cuddles I gave him he just wouldn't stop. Then one day it did.<br><br>
That much crying to me indicates an underlying factor. I would definitely get her checked if you haven't already.
 

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Thanks mamas, I have an otoscope here and have looked in her ears and her throat and can't see any signs of a problem. I have an appt to take her to the doctor tomorrow, but I'm sort of worried I'll be told that babies cry sometimes.<br>
She is bottle fed, I couldn't breast feed, I've been trying to offer her a bottle more often but she just flips out and slams the bottle away with her hands.<br>
She's asleep now, I went in and got her, she cried for about 10 more minutes (crying is a total understatement) and then fell asleep on my shoulder. I don't think she's sleeping because she's comforted, I think she just finally tired herself out with the screaming.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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No advice, just wanted to give you a <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Shannon!<br><br>
And no flames here for leaving her alone while you regroup. That's NOT CIO, that's just a smart move.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Shannon! Poor things, both of you!<br><br>
Could it be a vax reaction?
 

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I don't think it could be a vax reaction, she's only had one vaccine and it was almost 8 weeks ago.<br>
I've got an appt for her with the chiro again tomorrow and then an appointment with our family doc on Thursday, on top of that she's due to see the ped about her reflux on Monday. Hopefully this "stage" will be over by then. She's been fairly settled tonight so far, she slept from 4:00 until 7:30 and she seems to be in a good mood now. Dh suggested I take a sleeping pill tonight so I can finally get some decent rest and he would take care of her if she wakes in the night.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Shannon<br><br>
Good question Chrissy!!! Has she been vaxed?
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> i've been through some hard days with my GERD-y daughter and needed a short "time out" here and there, i believe the baby is far better off with a calm mama than an upset mama! it's not CIO if you're just taking a quick breather.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">She is bottle fed, I couldn't breast feed, I've been trying to offer her a bottle more often but she just flips out and slams the bottle away with her hands.</div>
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have you considered "silent reflux" as well (i.e. not just spitting up reflux)? my daughter has GERD but is a silent refluxer most of the time, we went through the same screaming-crying, hitting the bottle, fearing the bottle, getting hungry but then fearing hunger and screaming-crying. and crying really hard causes the reflux to worsen, which worsens the crying, and so on in a vicious cycle.<br><br>
you can detect silent reflux if you hold your baby up against your shoulder after she's eaten, when she's not crying. put your hand on her upper back, and your ear to her mouth. you'd hear and feel little inner "burps," about two or three a minute, if she's refluxing. it's almost a hiccup, but you can tell the difference. Willow needed different formula and a different med to cure the silent stuff, it was trial and error for a while. i hope this helps!
 

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She's a puker, she's been on Zantac for her reflux for about a month now, we noticed a big improvement at first, but maybe her dose needs to be upped.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">She's a puker, she's been on Zantac for her reflux for about a month now, we noticed a big improvement at first, but maybe her dose needs to be upped.</div>
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ahh, ok. go check out <a href="http://refluxinchildren.com" target="_blank">http://refluxinchildren.com</a>, the message board for GERD/reflux is a great place to ask the same questions you've asked here. my daughter and most of the reflux kids i hear about have to go through a merry-go-round of different combos of formula and meds before something really works, but then it'll stop working a month or two later! it's because the gut is still developing and its needs are changing. breastmilk keeps up a little better, but doesn't cure it. anyway, my daughter started on Zantac, it stopped working ... we switched to Nutramigen formula because she was showing allergy symptoms ... then she got worse again ... switched to Prevacid and she got much better ... worse again ... added Zantac back in a small dose to the Prevacid, much better ... got worse again <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> finally switched from Nutramigen back to regular formula, kept the same meds and voila! 2 whole months of very mild reflux <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> *whew!*<br><br>
every baby is different so your roller coaster will vary <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
have you tried laying her tummy down across your knees? with her arms out on one side and her legs free on the other? some days, this is the only position Willow would tolerate when she was awake. which baffled me because she hated tummy time on the bed or floor!
 

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I couldn't read without offering a great big <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">... you are doing all that you can and you really are doing a great job with a tough situation. I *know* you love your little girl and it must hurt you to know she's hurting - you will both get through this!<br><br>
I thought this was such sound advice, it brought tears to my eyes, thinking back on some rough times when I could have used such loving words.<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think the biggest thing you need is a hug, this is SO hard. I've been there. It is sooo hard to think, "where has my mothering instinct gone?" It's still there... I promise. It's just sooo hard.<br><br>
Please forgive yourself for leaving her alone for a little bit. I agree that if you feel she is better off for a few minutes not feeling your anger (I do think they can sense that), then that IS a good parenting choice. It IS the right thing to do.</div>
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shannon - i just wanted to send hugs too. mia also has been crying inconsolably for hours each day. we have to hand her off to eachother (me and dh) and then just constantly change her environment (walking outside, walking inside, rocking inside, on tummy, sitting on knee, tiger in tree, etc etc etc) and always always always be standing. where is dh? can't he take a shift? i know what you mean (from one of your other posts) about just being so exhausted and i can only imagine the physical discomfort. i don't have arthritis, but i hurt from standing and walking and rocking and patting and bouncing. i have one suggestion that will probably get me flamed. when all else failed, dh put mia in front of a baby einstein video (the mozart one) that a friend had given us. that has been something that sometimes works. i don't know why and the vids are definitely kind of freaky but it has worked and right now i don't turn my nose up at anything that works. but put her down if you have to. get some rest.
 

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I think she was aligned properly if for no other reason than that she wasn't particularily any worse after being adjusted. I'm having trouble remembering just how bad she's been on specific days (they're all running together right now) but she had to be bad for me to call my chiro in on a saturday.<br>
I am kinda wondering if it's her reflux changing, we noticed a few days ago there has been less spitting up--except at night and that's when she's happy. It just doesn't make sense, she screams like someone is stabbing her during the day and then she'll sleep soundly all night with no issues whatsoever. Last night she went to bed with us at midnight, I didn't take the sleeping pill because she wanted to sleep cuddled and she woke up for the first time at 7:00 dh fed her and she fell right back to sleep.<br><br>
Ok, while I was typing this the pediatrician called me back (he's such a sweetie, I left a message on his machine last night at like 8:00) He says it sounds to him like her reflux is worsening or changing. He's had me up her Zantac from 1 ml twice a day to 1.5 ml twice a day. He said if that doesn't show improvement he'll try 1 ml 3 x a day. (15 mg/ml) He's also going to call in a script for carafate to use when she's fussy. He said if the carafate settles her it's definitely reflux as about all the carafate does is put a coating on her throat adn tummy. He said he likes to avoid Prevacid if he can but that if she needs it he'll go there.<br>
Tug, I bought a baby einstein dvd and she hates it. She's facinated by the TV but she absolutely hates B.E. she'll turn her head away and start crying. (and that's when she wasn't crying in the first place!) For the first couple days of this walking did help, but now you could hang her upside down by the toes and she wouldn't notice you'd done anything different (no I haven't done that!!)<br>
Anyway, the ped is going to call my family doc as he wants her to order a couple tests so he can have the results on Monday when we see him. He told me he'd call me tomorrow afternoon after we've seen the family doc.<br>
Right now she's very happily swinging in her swing (happy because one of the dogs is stanging in front of her so she can kick at him every time she swings that way--with every kick comes a squeel of delight--good dogs, always willing to sacrifice to keep the baby happy :LOL
 

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Shannon: I had to stop bfing because I needed breast surgery (everything turned out OK). I had a few weeks before the procedure where I could nurse on one side and try out different forms of supplementation to see what my baby best tolerated.<br><br>
Goat milk. It's the only thing that didn't make him pukey and miserable. I put six different brands of cow-milk-based formula in him and had no luck, but his body doesn't even seem to notice that the goat milk is not human milk. A friend of mine whose dad is a ped in Israel says that gost milk is the substitute of choice in many parts of the world, considered way better than any formula because of its similarity to human milk, but here is the US there's the lobbyists and the FDA yadda yadda and it's not officially endorsed. I did consult with a nutritionist though, who said it was just fine in conjuction with vitamin drops.<br><br>
If that is too weird for you :LOL, another friend of mine whose baby had reflux and indigestion even with breastmilk solved the problem 100% just by switching formula brands until she found one that her daughter tolerated.<br><br>
Big <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> to you, mama. Get cried at all day is psychological torture. I think your dh is right on with you taking a pill and him taking the night shift so you can get yourself back on track.
 
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