[BCmamaof6]

Last night I was awake constantly with tons of movement at my cervix & bladder (really annoying cause I felt like I was going to pee myself every time she kicked me there)

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I suppose it could be her hands...but it really feels like feet.

I know she's been head down, with her back to my left (LOP) for several weeks. All the movement & kicking I've felt has been in the (mostly upper) right side of my belly.

I've never had a baby in a breech position before. I know they can turn...but I can't help feeling a little concerned because I've heard before that women who have had multiple babies have less uterine muscle tone which can contribute to the possibility of a breech baby. My midwives will NOT do a breech birth...at home or in the hospital. It's an automatic transfer to an OB. There is apparantly only one OB who will even consider a vaginal breech birth. Most of them prefer to do sections.

 

[ladybugchild77]

I thought Kiera was breech and it turned out to be her big ol' head pusing down there...Do you have an appointment coming up soon? You MW should be able to tell the position from touch - at least mine can. And jump on over to the MW forum - there are various ways for Mama to turn a baby I just don't know what they are. A good friend of mine successfully turned hers and had the homebirth she wanted. Good luck and HTH!

 

[Twice as nice]

Hope its a false alarm. If not, there are several things you can try. Here's a website that was suggested to me in case mine are breech... http://www.spinningbabies.com/ . Also, I've heard many people get great results through Webster's technique used by chiropractors (make sure the chiro is certified in Webster's). Good luck mama & let us know what you find out

 

[BCmamaof6]

Yeah...I have an apt on Wednesday. Hopefully my midwife will be able to tell for sure.

 

[boscopup]

Can you palpate your tummy and see whether you feel a hard round lump or a soft round lump down there? I get ALL my movement in the bladder/cervix area, but it's hands. I can feel his head right there above my pubic bone. It's definitely a head (and it's been like that since the 20 week u/s where we saw he was head down, facing my back). I'm 24.5 weeks, and I've been able to feel that head from the outside for a good week or so now (and I started out 50 lbs overweight, so there is some maternal cushioning there).

But if baby is breech, head over to spinningbabies.com and start doing the techniques over there, and I'm sure your baby will still turn, since it was hanging out vertex before.

 

[niki_73]

Gabrielle,

If they do transfer you, which of course would suck. Insist on Dr. Lampen, he is a fantastic South African dr who did my emer. c/s Hope she turns for you.

 

[Lovinmy2babies+1]

At my 26 week appointment, baby was head up. At my 29 week appointment, baby was head down. 3 days later, the baby is head up again. This baby turns around all the time, so I'm sure your baby has plenty of time. Good luck!!

 

[chaibaby]

Hi,
There is a technique in chiropractic called Webster Technique that helps to turn the baby naturally. Its a chiropractic adjustment that specifically focuses on the pelvic alignment and pelvic ligaments. It has over a 90% success rate and it doesn't require manual manipulation of your baby at all! Sometimes it can take up to 3 visits or so to have the baby turn, but definitely worth it if you ask me.

You have to find a chiro who is certified in the Webster Technique in order to have it done....there will probably be one in your area. If you would like, I can help you find one by doing a search - I'm a chiropractor who is certified in it.

Let me know if I can be of any help!

cheers,
andrea

 

[chaibaby]

Oh, and just to let you know that there is still time for your baby to turn naturally on his or her own- so, don't stress too much about it, as your baby could just be taking his or her time (our baby is the same way still....not wanting to turn yet but we'll wait patiently for a couple of more weeks until we utilize Webster).

Its best to start the Webster technique in month 7 or 8 but I've actually worked on pregnant moms in their ninth month and its worked, but it gets harder and harder the closer to the due date.

I'll hope the baby turns naturally but if you do choose Webster, it just feels like a normal pelvic adjustment (if you've ever experienced chiropractic adjustments) - nothing to be worried about at all!

 

[citizenfong]

Took four visits for me, but my second, who was transverse and nothing but *did* turn because of the Webster Technique.

It is very non-invasive and has a tremendous success rate.

 

[littleteapot]

Please don't worry about this now! Your baby has SO LONG to turn around, many do even in labour! It's really counterproductive to stress out and already start not trusting your body and your baby when you're so many weeks from birth!

 

[MidnightCommando]

Echoing some advice already posted..I wouldn't be too concerned just yet and I was actually speaking with my OB about this last week. Your baby does not settle into a position until around week 32-33, until then the position is labeled as 'aqueous' because of the constant movement and turning they can do while they have the room. Even at 33+ weeks it is still possible for he/she to turn so do not stress!! This is most important of all

 

[jule924]

This has been an issue on my mind as well as mine has been transverse for at least a few weeks now. I'm trying not to stress about it, because like the pp said above I know I still have time (I'm 31 weeks now). I spoke to my CMN this morning about turning the baby, delivery breech, etc. and she told me not to worry yet. She did say that if I come in in labour and am 8-9 cm that they would deliver breech - huh??? I would definitely look into turning him before that point - either from transverse or breech. That Webster Technique sounds interesting. I guess I'll have to see where he is next month and go from there.

 

[LionTigerBear]

Another way to get a baby to turn is with hypnotherapy/ guided meditation. I don't know much about it but I've heard of it being done. Hope baby turns on her own!

 

[BCmamaof6]

I'm pretty sure she's flipped back to her usual position!

I'll know for sure tomorrow @ the midwife appt.
Good to know about all the possible "solutions" to getting a breech baby to turn, though. Hopefully it won't be an issue...

I wonder if there are things one can do to help ensure that a baby STAYS in the correct position...I seem to remember something about optimal fetal positioning in previous pregnancies...I should try to find that info & see if it applies...

 

[Earthy~Mama]

I think it is called a pelvic thrust?!?! You get down on all fours and then bring you pelvis towards your belly button. Does that make sense? That is what my midwife had me doing when I was pregnant with #2

 

[littleteapot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earthy~Mama I think it is called a pelvic thrust?!?!

And it'll drive you insa-a-a-a-a-a-a-ne!

Sorry, I had to.

 

[OMama]

BCmamaof5 - just wondering if indeed your baby flipped back to a vertex position? What did your caregiver say? I had my midwives appointment today too and they think my babe is currently breech (maybe). I kind of wondered about this before -- just because I don't feel a clear head down there. But really I can't figure it out. Most all the movement is concentrated in my mid- section near my belly botton and on my sides, but it really doesn't look like he is laying transverse. I'm just not that wide! I really stick out like a torpedo this time instead. Often I feel little wiggles near my pubic area and kept hoping those were hands and not feet, but I just don't know. I rarely -- like never -- feel action at the top of my fundus. I can't imgaine if he was really head down that I wouldn't feel anything there. Wouldn't he kick me up there sometimes? Sometimes however I do "feel" like he is head down, but maybe that is just wishful thinking on my part.

Anyone have any other suggestions for figuring out position? I read everything on the spinningbabies website and honestly I didn't find it that helpful. I thought the mapping stuff was interesting but I needed more of an explanation about how to figure out baby's position once you chart where the movement is. Also, I am still a little unclear about if I should be "doing" anything (besides worrying, which I know y'all will tell me not to be doing) about it at this point. I'm 30 weeks today. According to the site it said most babes should be vertex at 30 - 32 weeks, but then I hear others say to not worry about it until later. My midwife said that if we still couldn't tell or he seemed breech at 34 weeks, we'd do an U/S. I'd like to do something now if I can, before it's too late. I read too as BCmamaof5 said earlier that with subsequent pregnancies the increased elasticity of the uterus can make it harder because it doesn't hold muscle tone as well anymore.

With all that said, is there anything I can do at home now? Should I lay on a board with my feet up? Hold cold veggies on my belly where I think the head is? (But that's the problem I can't often tell head from back or butt and he moves around so much!) Any thoughts on determining position? My placenta is posterior so I definitely feel him close to the surface often. I feel like I should be able to figure this out.

 

[erikaa]

i just visited with my accupuncturist today and she used to be a midwife. she palpated my little guy and he was definitely breech at the time.

her theory is that unless it's a short cord type issue, babies usually go breech or transverse when your uterus is situated assymetrically. she reccomends the chiro and accupuncture to help get things lined up better.

she also added that she's seen babies turn when mom was on the table ready for a c-section!!! so i am trying not to worry yet!

 

[OMama]

I wanted to bump this. And to share another website I found that honestly seemed more helpful than the spinningbabies stuff. Would love to hear others thoughts on this.

http://falcao.best.vwh.net/archives/breech.html#Breech

One question is, when I feel the baby really moving and want to encourage him to move head down, should I get myself into a position when my pubic region is elevated or lowered? I guess I am confused because I want to work with gravity, right, and his head is heavy so one would think if he is really moving about and I was upright that he would just slip into a vertex position. But most all the suggestions about turning a breech baby tell you to have your pubic region higher and that the babe would move in that direction -- which is against gravity. Right now I'm pretty sure he is in some kind of transverse situation so I feel like if I have the chance I want to know how to encourage him to go the "right" way. I was up most of the night with bad dreams, insomnia, and a lot of movement on his part. And of course I was worrying about this too. Anyone else have experience with a baby being breech or transverse at this point?