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Okay... so I looked at some of the other bf posts and learned that there is a mom who can pump about 9oz in one sitting! At first I wasn't concerned about how much milk I was producing... until I read that!! Ds is 3 mo and weighs 15lbs... I know he's doing great but I really would like to make more milk... just so I feel better about his feedings! What can I do (besides feed, feed, feed)? I am a sahm and I nurse on demand but it hasn't done much for the supply. I guess what I want the most (knowing ds is healthy) is to fill a 4oz bottle at my pump session with no problem! Currently, I'm lucky to get 3oz after having pumped both sides!!<br><br>
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How often does your DC have a bottle? Are you pumping to relieve engorgement and build a freezer stash, or do you just want quantitave proof for the grandparents of how much baby is eating? Even the highest quality breastpump isn't nearly as effective at removing milk as your baby is, so comparing the amount you can pump to the amount DC is taking in is comparing apples and oranges.<br><br>
Having said that, the mommas here have a wealth of knowledge about how to increase supply... Make sure you're well nourished and very well hydrated, eat oatmeal, drink Mother's Milk tea, nurse on demand without pacifiers or supplemental bottles.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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if he's doing great, there's no need to feel better about his feedings. if he has six wet diapers per day, you're making enough milk. if you pump 3 oz, that's great! some people can't pump ANYTHING, and they still make tons of milk for their baby.<br><br>
people who happen to respond really well to a pump are going to jump at the chance to answer with their amount, while people who do just average-like you- or who don't make much at all- aren't going to want to come in and post "just one ounce" after all these huge suppliers gave their amount! so don't take that to be accurate.<br><br>
my baby can't nurse. I've had to pump for her since day one. first thing in the morning, I can make 10-13 oz. The whole rest of the day, I make about 4, 4.5 each time. And I've never had to give her formula once. Don't worry.
 

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from the kellymom.com website<br><br><i>What is normal when it comes to pumping output and changes in pumping output?<br></i><br>
Most moms who are nursing full-time are able to pump around 1/2 to 2 ounces total (for both breasts) per pumping session. Moms who pump more milk per session may have an oversupply of milk, or may respond better than average to the pump, or may have been able to increase pump output with practice. Many moms think that they should be able to pump 4-8 ounces per pumping session, but even 4 ounces is an unusually large pumping output.<br><br>
It is quite normal to need to pump 2-3 times to get enough milk for one feeding for baby (remember that the pump cannot get as much milk as a baby who nurses effectively).<br><br>
Many moms are able to pump more milk per session when they are separated from baby. Milk pumped when you are nursing full-time is "extra" milk -- over and beyond what baby needs. Don't get discouraged if you are trying to build up a freezer stash when nursing full time and don't get much milk per pumping session -- this is perfectly normal and expected.<br><br>
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I personally think 3 oz is pretty darn good, but then again, I could only pump about 1.5 oz with my first baby and about 2 oz with my second baby and I had a hospital quality double pump and I worked out of the home. I had truly ached when I couldn't stay at home to work on the milk supply. I just could not quit work (dh got laid off in my 6th month of pregnancy), and I could not produce enough to even keep my babies fed without formula supplementing.<br><br>
Forgive me for asking, I'm just wondering about why you need to worry about pumping if baby is gaining with your nursing? Yes, in the early months you are a bit velcroed to the baby - but that is normal and expected if your milk containers (ie your breasts) don't have the same storage capacity as a mom who can pump more than 4 oz at one session. Over a 24 hour period, you most likely can produce a similar amount as that person,in just less volume more frequently.<br><br>
The baby does much better at removing milk than your pump does if all else is going well. Why worry about what you can pump at this point (unless you really had a weight gain/hydration issue?).<br><br>
If you have a true supply problem, take a look at the breastfeeding challenges section for some great advice.
 

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hee hee - I guess I'm the 9-ouncer you're talking about! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush"><br><br>
I got this from a mom who donates breast milk. I tried it and it really works. The first time took a little bit of time - like 15 minutes for the 2nd letdown but I did pump 5+ ounces that session! Now I get the 2nd letdown within 5-8 minutes of the 1st ending.<br><br>
"Start pumping on fast speed, low suction. When a letdown starts, switch to slow speed and the highest suction that you can tolerate. When the letdown ends, switch back to fast/low, and so on."<br><br>
I also took Motherlove More Milk Plus Veg. Capsules to boost my production in the beginning to get a pumping schedule started but now I don't take it anymore bc I've got a rythm going. I'll take 1 capsule once in a while when I feel I need it but for the most part the girls are working on their own.<br><br><br>
ETA: When I first started pumping I was only pumping 2-3 ounces if I was lucky. That was fine bc that was what DD needed. But that took away from a feeding so that really screwed up our feeding schedule. I had to leave her for about 5 hours one day so I needed to suddenly have enough for G'ma to feed her - hence the whole pumping routine. Plus I wanted to introduce a bottle so I could have some wiggle room to go on dates with DH without a 2 hour curfew! DD was 5lbs,7oz at birth - at her 2 month appointment she was 9lbs,10oz. and that was when I was pumping only 2-3oz a session! If your DS is gaining steadily then you're doing great! I fattened up DD by feeding her CONSTANTLY - even at 2am when she didn't cry to be fed. I'd do a dream feed and I really think that helped in packing on the pounds.
 

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The amount you express is not related to the amount your baby is taking. You seem to be hapy with your baby' condition, he's growing having wet dipes etc? Some people are great pumpers. I'm not one of them. I do however make enough milk to feed half of Australia but I'm no good at getting it out with a pump. If you need more milk for leaving for your bub when you go out then you probably just need to pump more often and with practice you will get better at it, use all the tips the other mums have given. I would be concerned about 'building up supply' if you don't actually have a supply problem due to the risk of ending up engorged/mastitis.<br>
Our bodies are beautifully designed to produce milk in response to a baby suckling (even after 2 years I get a let down just thinking about bf'ing or babies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> ) but we were never designed to give milk to pumps and it takes time for your body to recognise the pump as a stimulus for milk production and letdown. Anyway, the more you do it, the easier it gets. the reason I'm no good is I couldn't be bothered perservering with the pump. If I had really needed to pump then I would have soldiered on and gotten good like all the other pumping mothers out there.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">How often does your DC have a bottle? Are you pumping to relieve engorgement and build a freezer stash, or do you just want quantitave proof for the grandparents of how much baby is eating? Even the highest quality breastpump isn't nearly as effective at removing milk as your baby is, so comparing the amount you can pump to the amount DC is taking in is comparing apples and oranges.<br><br>
Having said that, the mommas here have a wealth of knowledge about how to increase supply... Make sure you're well nourished and very well hydrated, eat oatmeal, drink Mother's Milk tea, nurse on demand without pacifiers or supplemental bottles.<br><br>
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Ds will not take any of that stuff! No pacifiers, no bottles, no nothing! wait let me fix that... In 3 months he <i>has</i> taken a bottle, but from my dh <i>only</i>, eventually he took it but it was like pulling teeth!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"> He is ebf <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br>
The reason I would like to have a secret stash is so I can get out alone and get a short break... I guess I can be back b4 the 2 hours but I would feel better knowing dh has some back up
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Okay... so I looked at some of the other bf posts and learned that there is a mom who can pump about 9oz in one sitting! At first I wasn't concerned about how much milk I was producing... until I read that!! Ds is 3 mo and weighs 15lbs... I know he's doing great but I really would like to make more milk... just so I feel better about his feedings! What can I do (besides feed, feed, feed)? I am a sahm and I nurse on demand but it hasn't done much for the supply. I guess what I want the most (knowing ds is healthy) is to fill a 4oz bottle at my pump session with no problem! Currently, I'm lucky to get 3oz after having pumped both sides!!<br><br>
Suggestions anyone??</div>
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FaithfulMommy, I am a low-supply mom <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> who truly struggles with providing my dd with bm for a number of reasons so I look for tons of ways to improve my supply. Kellymom has some wonderful information on how to increase supply, including a method of massage that is simply wonderful.<br><br>
Since fenugreek does not work for me, I've found Milk Thistle, Alfalfa, and Oatmeal to be very helpful -- just watch the alfalfa since too much give me leg cramp issues. Plus, I also find that drinking Roobios Tea in combination with Horsetail Grass Tea and Mother's Milk Tea to give me a boost. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bouncy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bouncy"> I heard that Brewers Yeast Flakes work for some moms and gave it a try but since I didn't see an immediate increase, and the taste was not enjoyable to me, I gave that up. Both the Milk Thistle and Alfalfa in capsule form really do help so they are my mainstays.<br><br>
Good Luck!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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thank you soooo much Mamas... I knew I could count on you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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You are doing fine! I am an EPer, so my body knows the pump quite well. I already got 19 oz in one sitting. (messed up the alarm clock in the middle of the night, so I went 5 hours without pumping. I usually pump every 2-3 hours) I am very small chested, too. (36B when very full) Where do my girls hold all of that milk? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Your baby sounds like he has adequate weight gain. If you want a stash, pump in the morning AFTER your babies first feed. (somewhere around 6am?) You will have the most milk then. Please be careful to not stimulate too much milk. I have an oversupply (I was making 75 oz a day, dd only takes on average 32 oz a day) and am constantly battling with plugged ducts and mastitis. It is no fun. You do not want to deal with that! (but it sure is nice to have 2.75 deep freezers full of milk!) If you get 2 oz every day, just continue freezing that. Within a week or two you should be able to get out of the house for a few hours. I wouldn't pump more than once a day though, and not even everyday or you may wind up with too much milk and have oversupply issues. Good luck!
 

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Hey, you are doing great. I have a fabulous supply (tandem nursing my two boys - and my 8 month old is 21lbs and pretty much exbf since he doesn't eat a lot of solids yet) but I am a terrible pumper. If I pump between nursings, I get maybe an ounce. If I pump when missing a nursing, I get maybe 4 oz, maybe 6 if I am lucky.<br><br>
My nipples are very short and most pumps don't stimulate them the right way - they are either too gentle or they irritate them.<br><br>
I bought a manual pump last week that was totally worthless - I had to give it away because hand expressing my milk got me more than the damned pump. My Medela PIS is okay - the industrial hospital grade pump I had at the beginning with DS1 was the best for me so far.<br><br>
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Okay, that's totally doable without pumping 9 oz. in one sitting! Just pump at the same time every day, preferably after or during a large chunk of sleep. I always got the most if I woke up in the middle of the night, but once dd started sleeping through, I just started pumping first thing in the morning. Take the 3 oz. you pump every day, which is more than I've ever gotten in one session, and freeze each one. 3 oz. is still what dd eats and she is 6 mos. So pump for 2 weeks, same time every day, and you'd have enough for almost 14 feedings! No real need to worry about boosting your supply. Maybe just boost your patience! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Thanks again ladies... you guys are grrrrreat! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 
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