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<p>I'm not sure what I'm going to do, my kids are fully vaxed, but I'm suddenly feeling anxiety about all of it being pregnant with another.  My 4 year old hasn't gone for her "well visit" yet which will inevitably also be a vax visit.  If I did stop vaccinating them (4 years old and 2 years old), would the previous vacinnations have any immunity effect on them if they haven't received all of the doses?  I see DTAP, Polio, MMR, and Varicella are what my 4 year old would be getting if I kept vaxing, as she as gotten these shots right on schedule and the next doses are for ages 4-6...so how does it effect her if I don't give her these future doses?  I'm very new to the whole not vaccinating thing.  I've been living in a state of ignorance is bliss.  Thanks. </p>
 

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<p>My understanding is that they do, the reason multiple doses are given is because it give immunity to more people. Let's say 50% receive immunity from one dose, 70% from two, and 90% from three. Vaccine manufacturers are quick to point this out and not push for immunity testing before extra doses are given because it sells lots of vaccines to lots of people. If you are concerned about full immunity you could ask for blood tests. The vaccine effectiveness does not disappear because the full series was not given.</p>
 

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<p>The repeat doses do not give lifetime immunity. Some vaccinations just wear off, regardless. So even if she got the 4 yr old doses, they will still wear off eventually.</p>
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<p>I did no vaccinations while pregnant. I also have another rule. If I am not willing to get the shot myself, I won't get it for my children. So my child would not have something like the DTP unless I had it. The shots they do today are not the same they did when you were born, so you did not have these shots as a baby. (except Polio and DTP, and then possibly more depending on when you were born, the DTP wears off anyway so you would need to redo it).</p>
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<p>Here is what I would do if I were you....wait until the baby is born. Then, when you go in for the 6 week checkup, decide what shots you want your baby and daughter to have. Then get those shots for yourself before you take your baby or your daughter to have them. There are no shots for a 4 yr old that are not for adults either.</p>
 

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<p>The 4 year shots can be given at age 4-6, so waiting a year or 2 is what I would do if you are unsure about it now. You would still be considered up to date now if that is a concern.</p>
 

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<p>that's true.  I'll probably wait for a while with this baby, after reading the mothering article on the front page I'm totally freaked out, not at vaccines in general but at given vaccines so early when their brain is rapidly is developing.</p>
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<p>about getting vaccines myself, are you saying that everything I was vaxed for as a kid (I'm 24), doesn't effect me now?  Although I know I had chicken pox...did they not vax for that back then?  I would never get any type of vax now unless I was traveling.  I know it sounds kind of hypocritical but I just don't want that for myself..yet with my kids I feel this big burden to keep them safe and I'm not really sure what the safest thing to do is.  Gotta wait for The Vaccine Book to come to get a better perspective.</p>
 

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<p>OP - wait until you do your research. Would you run out and but a car seat or other baby safety item without looking into it first? I hope not. The decisions you make in terms of vaccines should not be taken lightly. Don't trust what docs tell you just because they are docs. Please please do your due diligence and then whatever you decide, you can feel you are making an informed choice. Also don't just read 1 book, read everything you can get your hands on. Good luck!</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Marnica</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1289571/if-i-stop-vaccinating-at-age-3-do-the-previous-vaccines-given-mean-anything#post_16164609"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>OP - wait until you do your research. Would you run out and but a car seat or other baby safety item without looking into it first? I hope not. The decisions you make in terms of vaccines should not be taken lightly. Don't trust what docs tell you just because they are docs. Please please do your due diligence and then whatever you decide, you can feel you are making an informed choice. Also don't just read 1 book, read everything you can get your hands on. Good luck!</p>
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<br><br><p>To this I would add... doctors are good people who know a lot about medicine. The MD means they are a doctor of medicine. They went into that field because they believe in (and were further taught to believe in) the benefits of medicine. There are many ways to keep your family healthy without the use of pharmaceutical drugs. But you probably won't have much luck finding information on those methods from and MD (at least, that was my experience). Research and read everything you can! Not just from one MD or from one source.</p>
 

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<p>what other books do you recommend?  I didn't know of any until someone recommended The Vaccine Book so that's what I ordered.  My gut tells me injecting kids with virus's when they're healthy doesn't make sense...but I need to get the full perspective before deciding, so I really want some good un-biased books, just factual evidence to make my decision.  I'm just going to look at the risks vs. benefits.  I don't take this lightly at all, it's really important to me now.  After going against the grain and deciding on homebirth it has opened my eyes to so many different parenting decisions that I never bothered to think about. </p>
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<p>Something I've been thinking about, my kids got the flu last year (they were 1&3 at the time), and it was the first year we stopped giving them the flu shot.  They got through it fine, just two days of being lethargic with fever...I'm interested to learn about my kids immune systems and how getting illness's and recovering effects the body, positively or negatively... vs. never getting the illness because of a vaccine...any books like this or will this information be in The Vaccine Book?</p>
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<p>edit: "Evidence of Harm" is that worth reading, is it much different than The Vaccine Book?</p>
 

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<p>try and look up books by Dr. Mendelson ..I think he has a couple of books and one has a title Raising your kids inspite of your doctor..</p>
<p>there are many more now..also look up and research books where they tell you alternative methods of caring for your children when not vaccinating, this way you feel you have a plan..there is a lot in homeopathy</p>
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<p>I just got that book, and although it's very out of date (Varicella didn't exist when he wrote it), it has been very helpful!  Just got through croup with less medication. </p>
 
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