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Ok, nothing drastic is going to happen, but I might start crying.<br><br>
I recently switched to FB because pfs and doublers weren't working and were way too bulky. But every other night it seems his FB are leaking. I've been putting one or two micro-fiber towels and a thick-n-thirsty doubler in the pocket. The towels are a mix: I've got 4 of the nice yellow ones Dina is giving away with all pocket diaper purchases, and I went to Walmart and got a 5-pack of slightly smaller, not quite as thick ones. I try to use those in conjunction with a yellow one. Last night I put in two joey-bunz and a white micro-fiber towel (the kind Dina sells that are 2 or 3 layers thick). it leaked before 1 am and the stuffings were barely damp!!!! Now, i only washed the joey-bunz and white towels once, so maybe they just weren't up to the job, but like I said they were barely damp in front and the back was dry still. The diaper didn't even try!!! I'm so frustrated. what am i doing wrong?
 

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You may be over stuffing it. I have never been a big fan of FB anyway. Does any fleece get turned out? Do you need to go up a size? I think Bummies are better at night.
 

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Are you using a cover with these? If not, I would try wool. The diaper may be soaked, but the wool will keep the moisture from getting your DC's clothes and/or the bed soaked. I use a cover at nighttime w/my pockets b/c my DS is a heavy wetter (especially at night) and we haven't had any leaks that way.<br><br>
Also, what kinds of additives (if any) are you adding to your laundry? Maybe something is making your fleece repel?<br><br>
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Definately wash your inserts a bunch more times. And a cover is a sanity-saver if nothing else. Wool is nice over a pockets - I get leery of more than one layer of PUL on the bum.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/sulkoff.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="tiptoe"> i will wash the new inserts more <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"><br><br>
BUT i hafta say i was having probs before the new inserts. *sigh* wool really isn't an option right now. if i spend any more money on cding dh might divorce me. i just want a dipe that does what it says it's gonna do. thanks for the ideas though.<br><br>
off to wash those inserts more. bleh.<br><br>
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I agree with the sizing. You might need to size up to stuff enough. But, mostly it sounds to me like your fleece is repelling since your stuffing isn't totally wet. Try washing the FBs on hot with a squirt of Dawn dishwashing liquid to try to strip the fleece. Also make sure that there are no bubbles left in the rinse water when you wash so you know you don't have detergent build-up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Yup, another mama thinking that overstuffing may be causing your leaks! We had the same trouble. . I can't use pockets at night as I can't stuff enough to get the absorbtion I need without overstuffing and getting leaks!
 

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Too much stuffing will cause gaps at the legs, it doesn't allow the diaper to close tight enough.
 

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Wool could still be an option for you. You could make your own wool soaker out of a wool sweater. I got sweaters for $2 and less at thrift shops to make soakers out of. There is a sight on how to make them that some one may be able to get you the url for.
 

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<a href="http://www.babyluv.net/store/" target="_blank">http://www.babyluv.net/store/</a><br><br>
Thats the site I used for making longies. I sewed them by hand though. Just remember to use something like wooly nylon to sew with. If you use cotton, the moisture from the diaper will wick to the outside of the cover through the sewing.<br><br>
Just to also save a little sanity, you can have the baby sleep on a wool blanket-- something from the thrift store would be fine, washing/felting and maybe even lanolizing would really up the sheet-saving-power. Or have the baby sleep on a fleece blanket (doubled up even better).<br><br>
I can't really speak to the pockets-leaking issue b/c I didn't have good luck with pockets on C as a bitty boy and gave up.
 

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Thats the site I used for making longies. I sewed them by hand though. Just remember to use something like wooly nylon to sew with. If you use cotton, the moisture from the diaper will wick to the outside of the cover through the sewing.<br><br>
Just to also save a little sanity, you can have the baby sleep on a wool blanket-- something from the thrift store would be fine, washing/felting and maybe even lanolizing would really up the sheet-saving-power. Or have the baby sleep on a fleece blanket (doubled up even better).<br><br>
I can't really speak to the pockets-leaking issue b/c I didn't have good luck with pockets on C as a bitty boy and gave up.</div>
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I've made several of my own as well! They work great! Also..if you use an old heavyweight fleece sweatshirt, that might work too! ITA the wool blanket or fleece blanket in bed, too...that way you don't have to worry about wet sheets!<br><br>
Wash the inserts a bunch more (wash and dry) will make a huge difference, I think. Hemp typically takes a lot of washings to reach full absorbancy.<br><br>
Also...place the inserts so the microfiber is right under the fleece then the jb's. The microfiber soaks up faster, so if your DC is a flooder...he may be going too much too fast for the hemp to soak up. You also might try a wool doubler in there...maybe microfiber, jb, wool doubler. The wool will force the jb to absorb all the way across (not just in the wet zone) and then absorb some as well.<br><br>
Hope you get it figured out! Nighttime diapering can be pretty tricky!
 

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I had the same issue when I first began to use pockets and the problem was a mix of overstuffing and not prewashing the hemp inserts enough. I would try washing the Joey Bunz 4-5 times and not using the towels next time. Two JB get my toddler through the night 12+ hours in an FB.<br><br>
Also be sure you run the FB through the drier on high heat at least once to seal the PUL.
 

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Exact same thing happened to me and my fuzzibunz. It was repelling fleece and overstuffing on my part. I gave up because I can't stand stripping them every week or two.
 

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Sounds to me like your fleece is repelling, and/or you may be stuffing them too much. Like another poster, I put the microterry right up against the fleece, and then the hemp. The microterry should absorb and hold until the hemp gets wet and then it should work after that.<br><br>
Also I thought the fleece was supposed to roll out a tad at the legs? In my experience if it was "in" the pul outer would get wet and start wicking horribly.
 

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Just wanted to offer a <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> It just bites when your night time is soogy! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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My experience with the microfiber towels is that they shifted and my ds leaked. Have you tried just hemp? Or, a prefold and a joey in the pocket of the fb? That's worked for us. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Finding the right night time combo can be frustrating...
 

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Thanks guys. *sigh* last night was wet again. at midnight, only 4 hours into the diaper. the inserts were soaked in the front but dry in the back. I had put in a micro towel and a thick n thirsty, trying not to overstuff. I always put the microtowel right under the fleece. i tested my fleece last night, sqirted a little water on it. it soaked into the wipe i had underneath, but the fleece felt damp too. what does that mean? i ended up putting an absorbitall with a thick n thirsty insert on him at midnight with a stacinator so simple cover. dh said it was soaked this morning, but hadn't leaked. i'll look into the wool, but it seems the leaks are so significant will it hold? I dunno.
 

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Thanks guys. *sigh* last night was wet again. at midnight, only 4 hours into the diaper. the inserts were soaked in the front but dry in the back. I had put in a micro towel and a thick n thirsty, trying not to overstuff. I always put the microtowel right under the fleece. i tested my fleece last night, sqirted a little water on it. it soaked into the wipe i had underneath, but the fleece felt damp too. what does that mean? i ended up putting an absorbitall with a thick n thirsty insert on him at midnight with a stacinator so simple cover. dh said it was soaked this morning, but hadn't leaked. i'll look into the wool, but it seems the leaks are so significant will it hold? I dunno.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thanks guys. *sigh* last night was wet again. at midnight, only 4 hours into the diaper. the inserts were soaked in the front but dry in the back. I had put in a micro towel and a thick n thirsty, trying not to overstuff. I always put the microtowel right under the fleece. i tested my fleece last night, sqirted a little water on it. it soaked into the wipe i had underneath, but the fleece felt damp too. what does that mean? i ended up putting an absorbitall with a thick n thirsty insert on him at midnight with a stacinator so simple cover. dh said it was soaked this morning, but hadn't leaked. i'll look into the wool, but it seems the leaks are so significant will it hold? I dunno.</div>
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I don't have a stacinator so simple, so can't exactly speak to that. But we do have an old stacinator, 2x layer (flannel?) that holds the 5yo's bedwetter diaper all inside-- even when the diaper itself is saturated (a sugarpeas sz2).<br><br>
Theres an old saying that the wool is only as good as the diaper underneath, but even with that it should say "not all wool is created equally." For nighttime I do like wool felted flannel (or really thickly felted jersey). And the "magical" aristocrats. I can't use any hand-knitted soakers or even our butt-sweaters for night. They just don't have "the magic juju" to work on one of his supersoaker nights.<br><br>
An absorbital will work if you soup it up w/ thirsty doublers. You could also get a wool liner to put between the cover and the diaper and help "send" moisture back to the diaper before getting to the cover.<br><br>
The other thing is that I don't even put C in his night diaper until I go to bed (anywhere from midnight to 2am or so). So whatever he had on from his going to sleep (between 9 and 11) only has to last part of the night. And his "night diaper" really only has to last 5-7hrs. Some nights both night diapers are dry, some nights they are both very wet.<br><br>
Sorry you're having night trouble. Hope you can find a reasonable solution soon. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 
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