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I've been up late doing some heavy duty study work on VAXing and this is making me sick what I have found. Basicly I went to the truth of the matter... The ingredients they list for the immunizations, and here is what I've found.<br><br>
Hep B immunization:<br><a href="http://www.appco.com.au/appguide/drug.asp?drug_id=00098654&t=cmi" target="_blank">http://www.appco.com.au/appguide/dru...00098654&t=cmi</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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The active ingredients of Infanrix HepB are non-infectious substances from tetanus, diphtheria bacteria, purified proteins of pertussis bacteria, and the surface protein of the hepatitis B virus (HBsAg, derived from genetically engineered yeast cells). The vaccine cannot cause these diseases. Each 0.5mL dose contains:<br><br>
• 25Lf U of diphtheria toxoid<br>
• 10Lf U of tetanus toxoid<br>
• 25mcg of pertussis toxoid, 25mcg of filamentous haemagglutinin and 8mcg of 69 kilodalton outer membrane protein (pertactin)<br>
• 10mcg of recombinant HBsAg protein.<br><br>
The inactive ingredients in the vaccine are: aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate, 2-phenoxyethanol, polysorbate 80, sodium chloride (salt) and water.<br><br>
The manufacture of this product includes exposure to bovine derived materials. No evidence exists that any case of vCJD (considered to be the human form of bovine spongiform encephalopathy) has resulted from the administration of any vaccine product.<br></td>
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DTaP immunization:<br><a href="http://www.daptacel.com/support_files/protect/pertussis/MKT%2013128-1R%20DAPTACEL%20PI.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.daptacel.com/support_file...TACEL%20PI.pdf</a><br><br>
The ingredients are at the bottom right hand side.<br><br>
Rota immunization:<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/rotateq/rotateq_ppi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...otateq_ppi.pdf</a><br><br>
The ingredients are at the bottom.<br><br>
IPV immunization:<br><a href="http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/polio.htm" target="_blank">http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/polio.htm</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Each dose (0.5 mL) of trivalent vaccine is formulated to contain 40 D antigen units of Type 1, 8 D antigen units of Type 2, and 32 D antigen units of Type 3 poliovirus. For each lot of IPOL vaccine, D-antigen content is determined in vitro using the D-antigen ELISA assay and immunogenicity is determined by in vivo testing in animals. IPOL vaccine is produced from vaccine concentrates diluted with M-199 medium. Also present are 0.5% of 2-phenoxyethanol and a maximum of 0.02% of formaldehyde per dose as preservatives. Neomycin, streptomycin and polymyxin B are used in vaccine production, and although purification procedures eliminate measurable amounts, less than 5 ng neomycin, 200 ng streptomycin and 25 ng polymyxin B per dose may still be present. The residual calf serum protein is less than 1 ppm in the final vaccine.<br></td>
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Ok so looking at the ingredients, just seeing bovine in the ingredient list makes me sick... But here is the real kickers.<br><br>
Polysorbate 80:<br><a href="http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/t7683.htm" target="_blank">http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/t7683.htm</a><br><br>
Down at the bottom under "16. Other Information"<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Laboratory Reagent. NOT INTENDED FOR INJECTABLE DRUG USE.</td>
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2-phenoxyethanol:<br><a href="http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/PH/2-phenoxyethanol.html" target="_blank">http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/PH/2-phenoxyethanol.html</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Harmful if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. May cause reproductive defects. Severe eye and skin irritant.</td>
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aluminium hydroxide:<br><a href="http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/AL/aluminium_hydroxide.html" target="_blank">http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/AL/alu...hydroxide.html</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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May act as a skin, respiratory or eye irritant.</td>
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neomycin:<br><a href="http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d00312A1#d00312a1-important" target="_blank">http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d00312A...12a1-important</a><br><br>
This one is an antibiotic<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">What is the most important information I should know about neomycin?<br><br>
Neomycin may cause damage to the kidneys and/or nerves. Kidney function and drug levels in the blood may be monitored with blood tests during treatment. Tell your doctor if you experience decreased urination, hearing loss, ringing in the ears, feeling of fullness in the ears, dizziness, numbness, skin tingling, muscle twitching, or seizures which may be signs of kidney or nerve damage.<br></td>
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Polymyxin B:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymyxin_B" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymyxin_B</a><br><br>
Another antibiotic<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Streptomycin:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptomycin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptomycin</a><br><br>
Yet another antibiotic<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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formaldehyde:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde</a><br><br>
Of course we all know about this one...<br><br>
Now what about the ones they don't list? I mean if they will list these and full well knowing that they can be toxic, especially since the person recieving them is so small that even these little amounts can seriously harm them. Why would they be doing this to children?<br><br>
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Very good question!<br><br>
Do you mind if I copy and paste your post into an email to my sister(she's on the fence about vaxing her ds2)?
 

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Yeah anyone that wants to copy this to show someone be my guest. People really need to know what the ingredients are in these vaxs.<br><br>
Another note is that I realize people don't know they have a choice. My friend just saw in a local free paper that she gets an ad about vaxing saying it is madatory for kids going into school. Mandatory???? Since when? I'm almost wondering if the person who placed the ad could get in trouble for lying, but then again I'm sure there is some clause. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
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well it is mandatory...unless you have an exemption....and that is not something that they share with people.
 

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Alright I've done more studying and found more exact info on the vaccines themselves. These are the most used vax companies in the USA.<br><br>
GlaxoSmithKline makes several vaccines for children all of their ingredients are listed at the begining of their PDF files. For reference and other vaccines here is their specific vaccine website.<br><a href="http://www.gsk.com/products/vaccines/us/vaccines-us.htm" target="_blank">http://www.gsk.com/products/vaccines/us/vaccines-us.htm</a><br><br>
Boostrix: TDaP<br><a href="http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_boostrix.pdf" target="_blank">http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_boostrix.pdf</a><br><br>
Engerix-B: Hepatitis B (Recombinant)<br><a href="http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_engerixb.pdf" target="_blank">http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_engerixb.pdf</a><br><br>
Infanrix: DTaP<br><a href="http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf" target="_blank">http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf</a><br><br>
Pediarix: DTaP with Hepatitis B (Recombinant) and IPV<br><a href="http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_pediarix.pdf" target="_blank">http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_pediarix.pdf</a><br><br><br><br>
Another company that makes vaccines is Merck and here is their vaccine/medicine webpage.<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/patients_caregivers/home.html" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/patient...vers/home.html</a><br><br>
RotaTeq: Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Pentavalent (ingredient list at the bottom)<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/rotateq/rotateq_ppi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...otateq_ppi.pdf</a><br><br>
Guardasil: Human Papillomavirus Quadrivalent (Type 6, 11, 16, and 18) Vaccine, Recombinant (ingredient list at the bottom of page 2 and continues into page 3)<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_ppi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...rdasil_ppi.pdf</a><br><br><br>
More comming soon...<br><br>
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Ok I'm updating as I find this info online...<br><br>
Wyeth, another company that makes vaccines. Here is there product list.<br><a href="http://www.wyeth.com/products" target="_blank">http://www.wyeth.com/products</a><br><br>
HibTITER®: Haemophilus b Conjugate Vaccine (Diphtheria CRM197 Protein Conjugate) (Note: I could not find a complete defined ingredients list, although if it is complete it's at the top of the page from what I could tell.)<br><a href="http://www.wyeth.com/content/showlabeling.asp?id=105" target="_blank">http://www.wyeth.com/content/showlabeling.asp?id=105</a><br><br>
Prevnar®: Pneumococcal 7-valent Conjugate Vaccine (Diphtheria CRM197 Protein) (Note: Yet again it seems it's not completely defined, but may be the entire ingredient list at the top of the first page.)<br><a href="http://www.wyeth.com/content/showlabeling.asp?id=134" target="_blank">http://www.wyeth.com/content/showlabeling.asp?id=134</a><br><br><br>
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Ugh... The more I learn the more mad I get at how bad vaxing really is and how unknowingly parents just lead their kids to a proverbial slaughter.<br><br>
This is the CDC site on Prevention and Control of Influenza<br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5208a1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5208a1.htm</a><br><br>
If you go down a bit to "Inactivated Influenza Vaccine Composition" that is the list of main ingredients used in this vaccine according to the CDC. Which may prove that if you read the ingredient list by pharma companies they may be leaving things out.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">The vaccine is made from highly purified, egg-grown viruses that have been made noninfectious (i.e., inactivated or killed) (58). Subvirion and purified surface antigen preparations are available. Because the vaccine viruses are initially grown in embryonated hens' eggs, the vaccine might contain limited amounts of residual egg protein.</td>
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Ok so someone allergic to eggs this can be bad, right? Well this made me think of other ingredients that are listed in vaxs that have been "purified" out. If egg protein can slip through "purifying" then those toxic ones can slip through too!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Inactivated influenza vaccine distributed in the United States might also contain thimerosal, a mercury-containing compound, as the preservative (59,60). Thimerosal has been used as a preservative in vaccines since the 1930s. Although no evidence of harm caused by low levels of thimerosal in vaccines has been reported, in 1999, the U.S. Public Health Service and other organizations recommended that efforts be made to reduce the thimerosal content in vaccines to decrease total mercury exposure, chiefly among infants and pregnant woman (59,61). Since mid-2001, routinely administered, noninfluenza childhood vaccines for the U.S. market have been manufactured either without or with only trace amounts of thimerosal to provide a substantial reduction in the total mercury exposure from vaccines for children (62).</td>
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Ok so the word might doesn't reasure me very much... So there is a chance that they're putting Thimerosal in the vax, but because it's so "low" the pharma companies don't have to tell us?<br>
I've heard our president actually passed something that allows them to do this, but then again it might be the rumor mill... But if anyone can clear that up by posting a link that would be great.<br><br>
Well off to do more research. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: So I may be posting more... I really hope this helps someone who doesn't have time to research this stuff.<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ok so someone allergic to eggs this can be bad, right? Well this made me think of other ingredients that are listed in vaxs that have been "purified" out. If egg protein can slip through "purifying" then those toxic ones can slip through too!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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Not to defend vaxing, just want to defend the peds I've known and liked. I was allergic to chicken growing up and thus my ped as a child never recommended the flu vaccine. Even specifically spelling out to my parents and in my chart to not get it. This continued even after I was no longer allergic to chickens. Most peds <b>I've encountered</b> are aware of possible allergy problems with vaxes such as this one.
 

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Well I just found that Merck kinda hides stuff on there pages by making things for "doctors only" and they actually have more vaxs than I thought... They just don't have a "patient product pdf file" on them.<br><br>
Here is the doctor's list of medicines on Merck's webpage. (hope this link works because it was giving me a hard time copying the web address ???)<br><a href="http://www.merckservices.com/portal/site/merckproductservices/productpopup/zQzabczEzabc&viewBy=NAV_BY_BRAND" target="_blank">http://www.merckservices.com/portal/...y=NAV_BY_BRAND</a><br><br>
Note: they tend to have there ingredient list at the top of their pdf pages, if not I'll say something about it.<br><br>
Varivax: Varicella Virus Vaccine Live (Oka/Merck)<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/v/varivax/varivax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...varivax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
Attenuvax: Measles Virus Vaccine Live<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/a/attenuvax/attenuvax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...tenuvax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
COMVAX® : Haemophilus b Conjugate (Meningococcal Protein Conjugate) and Hepatitis B (Recombinant) Vaccine<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/c/comvax/comvax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_.../comvax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
M-M-R® II : Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_.../mmr_ii_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
M-M-VAX™ : measles and mumps virus vaccine live<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmvax/mmvax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...x/mmvax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
MERUVAX® II : rubella virus vaccine live<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/meruvax_ii/meruvax_ii_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...uvax_ii_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
MUMPSVAX® : mumps virus vaccine live<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mumpsvax/mumpsvax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...umpsvax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
PedvaxHIB® : Haemophilus b Conjugate Vaccine (Meningococcal Protein Conjugate)<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pedvax_hib/pedvax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_.../pedvax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
PNEUMOVAX® 23 : Pneumococcal Vaccine Polyvalent (note: this one does not seem to be clear on the ingredients at the begining of the pdf and I did not find anything else constituting as ingredients in a quick overview of the pdf.)<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pneumovax_23/pneumovax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...eumovax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
ProQuad® : Measles, Mumps, Rubella and Varicella (Oka/Merck) Virus Vaccine Live<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/proquad/proquad_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...proquad_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
RECOMBIVAX HB® : Hepatitis B Vaccine (Recombinant)<br><a href="http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/recombivax_hb/recombivax_pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...ombivax_pi.pdf</a><br><br>
VAQTA® : Hepatitis A Vaccine, Inactivated<br><a href="http://www.merckservices.com/portal/site/merckproductservices/productpopup/zQzabczEzabc&viewBy=NAV_BY_BRAND" target="_blank">http://www.merckservices.com/portal/...y=NAV_BY_BRAND</a><br><br><br>
Well that's all for now... I think I may take a break for a bit, but I will be doing more research if I can.<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not to defend vaxing, just want to defend the peds I've known and liked. I was allergic to chicken growing up and thus my ped as a child never recommended the flu vaccine. Even specifically spelling out to my parents and in my chart to not get it. This continued even after I was no longer allergic to chickens. Most peds <b>I've encountered</b> are aware of possible allergy problems with vaxes such as this one.</div>
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Thanks for the info, although I am aware that for the most part peds do know this and will inform their patients. I was just making reference to the fact that if egg protein can slip through so can those toxic chemicals they use to make the vaccine. Sorry if I didn't seem clear on my intention with the comment.<br><br>
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That is one sickening toxic cocktail of crap that sooo many children get.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Why would they be doing this to children?</div>
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Because children don't have a "voice". And most parents don't know any better.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Another note is that I realize people don't know they have a choice. My friend just saw in a local free paper that she gets an ad about vaxing saying it is madatory for kids going into school. Mandatory???? Since when? I'm almost wondering if the person who placed the ad could get in trouble for lying, but then again I'm sure there is some clause. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br></div>
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Yep. That word "mandatory" is fudged a little... because exemptions are available in most states. Funny isn't it? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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Thank you for the info!
 

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More stuff...<br><br>
Company: Roche<br>
Tamiflu<br><a href="http://www.rocheusa.com/products/tamiflu/pi.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.rocheusa.com/products/tamiflu/pi.pdf</a><br><br><br>
Company: Novartis<br>
Pediatric Vaccines List (note: if you copy and paste a vax into a search engine most of the time you can come up with the vaxs specific webpage)<br><a href="http://www.novartisvaccines.com/products/pediatric.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.novartisvaccines.com/prod...ediatric.shtml</a><br><br><br>
Company: Schering-Pough<br>
Their Hepatitis vaxs<br><a href="http://www.schering-plough.com/schering_plough/pc/hepatitis.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.schering-plough.com/scher.../hepatitis.jsp</a><br><br><br>
Well I think I'm at the end of my resources for finding info on the ingredients. I hope to continue with more info on the effects of the ingredients.<br><br>
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FYI,<br>
The concentration of antibiotics in vaccines are in the ng range with is 1/1,000,000,000 of a gram. The typical dose of these antibiotics to treat an ear infection in a child is then several billion times the amount in a vaccine.<br>
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angel_miette,<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Polysorbate 80:<br><a href="http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/t7683.htm" target="_blank">http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/t7683.htm</a><br>
Down at the bottom under "16. Other Information"<br>
Product Use:<br>
Laboratory Reagent. NOT INTENDED FOR INJECTABLE DRUG USE.</td>
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There is laboratory-grade and pharmaceutical-grade. This disclaimer only means that the laboratory-grade should not be used for studies involving injected PBS.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Company: Schering-Pough<br>
Their Hepatitis vaxs<br><a href="http://www.schering-plough.com/scher.../hepatitis.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.schering-plough.com/scher.../hepatitis.jsp</a></td>
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Schering-Plough does not make human vaccines and this is a link for their hepatitis treatments.<br><br>
The MSDS sheets should assist you with determining the lethal doses of some constituents in laboratory animals versus what are in vaccines.<br><br>
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Ingredients in Vaccines: (not all of these ingredients are in each vaccine, I just compiled all the ingredients together just for reference)<br><br>
* Formaldehyde<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde</a><br>
[ Formaldehyde can be toxic, allergenic, and carcinogenic. Formaldehyde can cause allergies, and is part of the standard patch test series. ]<br>
* Aluminum hydroxide<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_hydroxide" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_hydroxide</a><br><br>
* bovine casein (ELISA)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELISA" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELISA</a><br><br>
* Fenton<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenton%27s_reagent" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenton%27s_reagent</a><br><br>
* Glutaraldehyde<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaraldehyde" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaraldehyde</a><br>
[ it is toxic, causing severe eye, nose, throat and lung irritation, along with headaches, drowsiness and dizziness.]<br><br>
* Polysorbate 80<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysorbate_80" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysorbate_80</a><br><br>
* Aluminum<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium</a><br>
[Aluminium is a neurotoxin that alters the function of the blood-brain barrier. It is one of the few abundant elements that appears to have no beneficial function to living cells.]<br><br>
* Sodium Chloride (Salt)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaCl" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaCl</a><br><br>
* 2-Phenoxyethanol<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Phenoxyethanol" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Phenoxyethanol</a><br><br>
* VERO cells (Monkey Kidney Cells)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vero_cells" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vero_cells</a><br><br>
* Neomycin Sulfate<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomycin_sulfate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomycin_sulfate</a><br><br>
* Polymyxin B<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymyxin_B" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymyxin_B</a><br>
[Side effects include neurotoxicity and acute renal tubular necrosis.]<br><br>
* Sucrose (Sugar)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose</a><br><br>
* Sodium Citrate<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_Citrate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_Citrate</a><br><br>
* Sodium Hydroxide<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_Hydroxide" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_Hydroxide</a><br><br>
* Fetal Bovine Serum<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum</a><br><br>
* L-histidine<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-Histidine" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-Histidine</a><br><br>
* Sodium Borate (decahydrate)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_borate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_borate</a><br>
[ Boric acid, sodium borate, and sodium perborate are estimated to have a fatal dose from 0.1 to 0.5g/kg. These substances are toxic to all cells, and have a slow excretion rate through the kidneys. Kidney toxicity is the greatest, with liver fatty degeneration, cerebral edema, and gastroenteritis. Boric acid solutions used as an eye wash or on abraded skin are known to be especially toxic to infants, especially after repeated use because of its slow elimination rate. ]<br><br>
* Soy<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy</a><br><br>
* Phosphate<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate</a><br><br>
* Glutamate<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamate</a><br><br>
* Monosodium L-glutamate (MSG)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate</a><br><br>
* Potassium Phosphate Monobasic<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopotassium_phosphate" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopotassium_phosphate</a><br><br>
* Potassium Chloride<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_Chloride" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_Chloride</a><br><br>
* EDTA<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTA" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTA</a><br><br>
* Human Albumin<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_serum_albumin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_serum_albumin</a><br><br>
* Sorbitol (sweetener)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbitol" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbitol</a><br><br>
* Hydrolyzed Gelatin<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin</a><br><br>
* Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotinamide_Adenine_Dinucleotide" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotin...e_Dinucleotide</a><br><br>
* Dextrose (sugar)<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrose" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrose</a><br><br><br><br>
Then there is Thiomersal which is said to not be in vaccines, but who knows...<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal</a><br><br><br>
Well I'm done, hope this helps someone with their research.<br><br>
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<a href="http://www.childrenoftherosary.org/alert05.htm" target="_blank">http://www.childrenoftherosary.org/alert05.htm</a><br><br>
This list of vaccine ingredients listing human diploid cells and<br>
tissue from aborted fetus unquestionably places the vaccine issue into<br>
the "religious" arena for many people:<br><br><br>
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VACCINE INGREDIENTS<br>
Source: 1997 Physicians' Desk Reference<br>
Toll Free Numbers can be called to obtain product inserts.<br>
This is a representative, not a comprehensive, list of the various<br>
types of vaccines.<br><br><br>
Acel-Immune<br>
DTaP<br>
Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine<br>
Adsorbed<br>
Lederle Laboratories<br>
1-800-934-5556<br>
produced using formaldehyde, thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide,<br>
aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, gelatin (animal parts/bovine)<br><br><br>
Act HIB<br>
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib) Tetanus Toxoid Conjugate<br>
Connaught Laboratories<br>
1-800-822-2463<br>
produced using ammonium sulfate, formalin, sucrose, thimerosal<br>
medium: semi-synthetic<br><br><br>
Attenuvax<br>
Measles Virus Vaccine Live<br>
Merck & Co, Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin<br>
medium: chick embryo<br><br><br>
DPT<br>
Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed<br>
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals<br>
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231<br>
produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate,<br>
washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal<br>
medium: porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein<br><br><br>
Energix-B<br>
Hepatitis B<br>
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals<br>
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231<br>
produced using aluminum hydroxide, thimerosal<br>
medium: yeast (possibly 5% residual)<br><br><br>
Havrix<br>
Hepatitis A<br>
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals<br>
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231<br>
produced using formalin, aluminum hydroxide, phenoxyethanol<br>
(antifreeze), polysorbate 20, residual MRC5 proteins (from medium)<br>
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br>
Biavax<br>
Rubella and Mumps Virus Vaccine Live<br>
Merck & Co, Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin<br>
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br>
HibTiter<br>
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib)<br>
Lederle Laboratories<br>
1-800-934-5556<br>
produced using polyribosylribitol, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal<br>
medium: chemically defined, yeast based<br><br><br>
Fluvirin<br>
Influenza Virus Vaccine<br>
Medeva Pharmaceuticals<br>
1-888-MEDEVA<br>
(716)274-5300<br>
produced using embryonic fluid (chicken egg), neomycin, polymyxin,<br>
thimerosal, betapropiolactone<br>
medium: embryonic fluid (chicken egg)<br><br><br>
FluShield<br>
Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A&B<br>
Wyeth-Ayerst<br>
1-800-934-5556<br>
produced using gentamicin sulfate, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, tri<br>
(n)butylphosphate, thimerosal<br>
medium: chick embryos<br><br><br>
IPOL<br>
Inactivated Polio Vaccine<br>
Connaught Laboratories<br>
1-800-822-2463<br>
produced using 3 types of polio virus, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol<br>
(antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B<br>
medium: VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells<br><br><br>
MMR<br>
Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372 produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin<br>
mediums: M&M - chick embryo<br>
Rubella - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br>
M-R-Vax<br>
Measles and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin<br>
mediums: M - chick embryo<br>
R - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)<br><br><br>
Menomune<br>
Meningococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine<br>
Connaught Laboratories<br>
1-800-822-2463<br>
produced using thimerosal, lactose<br>
medium: freeze dried polysaccharride antigens from Neisseria<br>
Meningitidis<br><br><br>
Meruvax II<br>
Rubella Virus Vaccine Live<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin<br>
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br>
Mumpsvax<br>
Mumps Virus Vaccine Live<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin<br>
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br>
Orimune<br>
Poliovirus Vaccine Live Oral Trivalent<br>
Lederle Laboratories<br>
1-800-934-5556<br>
produced using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin,<br>
neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol<br>
medium: monkey kidney cell culture<br><br><br>
Pneumovax<br>
Pneumococcal Vaccine Polyvalent<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using phenol and capsular polysaccharides from the 23 most<br>
prevalent pneumococcal types<br><br><br>
Imovax<br>
Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed<br>
Connaught Laboratories<br>
1-800-822-2463<br>
produced using human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator<br>
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br>
Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed<br>
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals<br>
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231<br>
produced using betapropiolactone, aluminum phosphate, sodium<br>
ethylmercurithiosalicylate (thimerosal), phenol red<br>
medium: fetal rhesus monkey lung cells<br><br><br>
Recombivax<br>
Hepatitis B Vaccine Recombinant<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide<br>
medium: yeast (residual < 1% yeast protein)<br><br><br>
RotaShield<br>
Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Tetravalent<br>
Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories<br>
1-800-934-5556<br>
produced using 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant<br>
viruses, sucrose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), potassium<br>
monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, fetal bovine serum, neomycin<br>
sulfate, amphotericin B<br>
medium: fetal rhesus diploid cell line<br><br><br>
Varivax<br>
Varicella Virus Vaccine Live<br>
Merck & Co., Inc.<br>
1-800-672-6372<br>
produced using sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, processed gelatin<br>
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal<br>
tissue)<br><br><br><br><br>
Chemical Profiles and Definitions<br>
visit <a href="http://www.scorecard.org/" target="_blank">http://www.scorecard.org</a> to investigate chemical profiles<br>
Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical<br>
Encyclopedia)<br><br><br>
Ammonium Sulfate: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver<br>
toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant<br><br>
Amphotericin B: MME definintion - "a drug used to treat fungus<br>
infections. Known allergy to this drug prohibits use. Side effects<br>
include blood clots, blood defects, kidney problems, nausea and<br>
fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can occur."<br><br>
Aluminum: EDF Suspected - cardiovascular, or blood toxicant,<br>
neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant.<br>
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6 ranking systems.<br>
On at least 2 federal regulatory lists.<br><br>
Beta-Propiolactone: EDF Recognized - carcinogen<br>
EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant; respiratory<br>
toxicant; skin or sense organ toxicant.<br>
More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems.<br>
On at least 5 federal regulatory lists ranked as one of the most<br>
hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to humans.<br><br>
Formaldehyde: EDF Recognized - carcinogen<br>
Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant; immunotoxicant,<br>
neurotoxicant, reproductive toxicant; respiratory toxicant; skin or<br>
sense organ toxicant.<br>
More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems.<br>
On at least 8 federal regulatory lists ranked as one of the most<br>
hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health.<br><br>
Gentamicin Sulfate: an antibiotic<br><br>
Hydrolyzed Gelatin: obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle<br>
skins, de-mineralized cattle bones (ossein) and porkskin.<br><br>
Neomycin: an antibiotic<br><br>
Phenol : EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka<br>
Carbolic Acid - developmental toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver<br>
toxicant kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant respiratory toxicant, skin<br>
or sense organ toxicant.<br>
More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems.<br>
On at least 8 federal regulatory lists.<br><br>
Phenoxyethanol: EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant, reproductive<br>
toxicant (aka: Antifreeze).<br>
Less hazardous than most chemicals in 3 ranking systems.<br><br>
Polyribosylribitol: a component of the Hib bacterium<br><br>
Polymyxin: an antibiotic<br><br>
Polysorbate: EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant<br><br>
Sorbitol: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant.<br>
Less hazardous than most chemicals in 1 ranking system.<br><br>
Streptomycin: an antibiotic<br><br>
Sucrose: refined sugar<br><br>
Thimerosal: EDF Recognized - developmental toxicant. Suspected -<br>
skin or sense organ toxicant.<br><br>
Tri(n)butylphosphate: EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant neurotoxicant.<br>
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems.<br>
On at least 1 federal regulatory list.<br><br>
Vaccine Ingredients: <a href="http://www.unlockingautism.org/vaccines/ingredients.asp" target="_blank">http://www.unlockingautism.org/vaccines/ingredients.asp</a><br><br><br>
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