My son recently asked me if he was circumcised and I said Yes. I had no idea how much this would affect him mentally. He must have read it on the internet or something because all he can say is I mutilated him. There's nothing I can do to relieve his anger towards me and I accept that. I had asked several people I knew who had young sons and they all did it. All the men I knew had it done and I knew of a friend's baby who wasn't done at birth but got a bad infection and had to do it when he was around 6 months old. She said it was horrible. Also, my husband is from Europe and wasn't done at birth. He is now deformed on the back side of his penis. He told me when he was a teenager he got a horrible, painful infection and had surgery. Well, either too much skin was infected or they botched it. I thought at the time I made the right decision. Now, knowing how my son feels, I deeply regret it. I can't un-do it and he reminds me that's why he's so bitter and "pissed off". He's 13 and I hope will someday forgive me because living a life full of anger is not good. He also is a very lazy kid, defiant, often angry (even before this) and a loner. I have to nag him to even take a shower and his hair often smells bad, which means he doesn't use the best hygiene. I can't imagine how bad it would be if he got an infection at this age and had to have it cut. I guess if I had known the original method was different than what they do in America, then I wouldn't have done it. This will be one of my biggest regrets in life:frown: I've scarred him physically and emotionally and probably ruined our mother-son relationship for life!
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He's thirteen snd just grappling with becoming a teenager so I'm sure a lot is going on in his mind and body. Finding out about circumcision can be emotionally confusing snd with the internet so convenient ...... It is a more common occurrence these days. Parents will need to be ready to answer some questions. Tell him your story...... We're you lied to about benefits of it? We're you pressured into doing it? Did you really know how serious of a decision it was? Everyone has a story snd they need to tell it snd apologize to their sons. Heartfelt apologies can be very healing. Let him do his processing of this in his own way..... Just let him know you will be there when he wants to talk about it. I'm sure the minute he likes a girl...... His hygiene will greatly improve! It's part of growing up. Good luck.
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Konakai, I am so sorry that you find yourself in this totally unexpected and uncomfortable situation. At least you gave the decision some thought before going ahead and having your son circumcised. So many people get sucked in by the prevalence of it in North American society. Every male they know is cut, so it must be O.K. Right? The other side of it is all the stories of men and boys who had to have it done. This is a result of the extreme ignorance in our medical profession about normal intact male genitalia. All the doctors know about a foreskin is to whack it off. The question needs to be asked - "What would you do for a girl?" In Finland the statistic is that only one man in over 16,600 will die without his foreskin. And yet here they treat it like a ticking bomb. I am puzzled as to what happened to your husband because in Europe an infection would be treated with antibiotics, not surgery.
The bottom line to this is that you were fed a whole lot of erroneous information. I think Mare54's post above is perfect - once your son knows that you felt you were making the best decision based on the information that you had; that it was not a malicious act, hopefully he will understand.
I, too am a circumcised guy who is pissed that it was done to me, but I don't blame my parents, other than to say that I wish they had given it more thought and stepped back to see just what a bizarre custom it is. I do blame an unethical medical system that perpetuates it.
The bottom line to this is that you were fed a whole lot of erroneous information. I think Mare54's post above is perfect - once your son knows that you felt you were making the best decision based on the information that you had; that it was not a malicious act, hopefully he will understand.
I, too am a circumcised guy who is pissed that it was done to me, but I don't blame my parents, other than to say that I wish they had given it more thought and stepped back to see just what a bizarre custom it is. I do blame an unethical medical system that perpetuates it.
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Konakai, I've been thinking about you and wondering how you are making out? There is video on Utube of a mother apologizing to her son. Maybe there are some pointers in it that could help you. You sound like a very concerned and loving mother, and I can tell that your heart is in the right place.
When our son was born 8 years ago, I was leaning towards not circumcising. My husband wasn't adamant, but he was leaning towards doing it, so we did. We both deeply regret it. He has had many issues with pain, and adhesions. Once it's done, it can't be undone!
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I have read the first few pages but just wish to say this:
I am one of those sons that some have claimed will forgive you because you "did what you thought was best" and because "you are my mother I will love you no matter what". Let me state this clearly....I DO NOT FORGIVE MY MOTHER. I HATE HER GUTS WITH A PASSION. and I know of others that think this way.
one point that isnt touched on about circumcision(rape and mutilation) topics, is the bond between mother and child. you
see that child is looking very much forward to seeing you. Like all mammals babies that are new born wish to snuggle up to mom and suck on her breasts. in the case of humans they also really want dad to deliever them as well and share a special bonding moment with the two parents before sucking on mom, burping, and passing out. It may not sound like much, but to the newborn infant they are indeed thinking "This is sweet, sweet, heaven on earth. I am in bliss."
this bond however gets shattered when we break from God's(nature's if you prefer), naturally designed system. instead the love the child feels for you because mother and newborn son naturally love each other, is broken. THe baby when mutilated and raped screams "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME????". the bond is then forever broken. you will never in a million years ever love and be loved back by your son the way God and nature intended. you are no longer the guardian angel, you are a guardian devil. You know longer hold your child as he thinks "This is sweet, sweet, heaven on earth. I am in bliss.". no you hold a child that screams up to heaven and cries to a just God "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME???". indeed if there be a just God that rules over all creation, your infant's screams do damn you.
the new bond is one out of a need for survival. you see despite the horrific injury of rape and mutilation....the new born still has a desire to survive. so survive the newborn will at least those that dont die during the raping and mutilating. the ones that survive this monsterous act, will go on to want to survive. they rather than naturally looking forward to mommy and daddy, they will learn to love them to survive. rather than seeing you as the ones that gave me life, i see you as the ones i used to survive. to that end I will coo and ahh with you. I will use you to learn to talk, to walk, and all the other things needed to live. rather than a beacon of love, you are a beacon of a neccessary evil needed to survive.
I do not think you taught me these things because you loved me after all i cried "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME???" to
which you shrugged your shoulders. Even worse, you whispered in my ear, "I do this because I love you" O foolish fool, I
hate to see your enemies. THe one you claim was born perfect and precious, you say that to me daily, yet I was only perfect after you paid a pedophile to have sex with me and scar my manhood for life. So no I stole these things so I could survive because I am a survivor and I will live on, and that sick freak that raped me, will get his due justice, and mother you deserve to rot with him. BUt I cannot be blamed, I never knew a guardian angel as spoken of in all these mother's day cards and songs, no, I only know my guardian devil.
to those sons that do forgive, I merely think they havent completely embraced the evil that was done to them. I Dont think they see it as getting raped and mutilated. I dont think they see it as total betrayal of the sacred bond between mother and child. I think they still see it as society sees it, a choice to be made by the parents. they dont think theyve been raped, they dont think their virginity was taken at a day old, they dont think their first sexual experience was that of a sick perverted baby and doctor bondage scene, but no they still see it innocently as a choice. no there was no choice nor was there ever....unless you consider this a choice "Ma'am and sir, may I take your baby and rape and mutilate him, later on get off on this experience because I am a pedophile? and afterwards Im going to sell his foreskin for a lot of profit too. Oh and Please stick around and buy some lovely anti-aging cream, It is made from your baby's blood, tears, and screams. You see it is a much better use of his forskin." if you consider that a choice, then its a choice. but instead we ask "Are you circumcusing your son?" see how much nicer that sounds? so these forgiving sons still call it circumcision, but I call it the work of a sick pedophile who enjoyed having sex with me as a new born. and I now know when asked by bishops was I abstaining from premarital sex and I said yes....I was lieing for I had already had sex once before a very long time ago.
so no I do not forgive, nor does she deserve it.
and now I know when I do watch porn, why i find bondage so erotic and hot....I am merely reenacting my infancy.
the ones in this thread that deserve it, are those that are truly repentent of it, they have been brought to tears with
Godly sorrow, they seek to change this barbaric act. they learned and are indeed wiser. to you I thank, and your stories have been heart wrenching.
know this...I am that anger that cries out against you for betraying your sons. Even those that are too docile to cry out in anger....For the same reason we cut the balls off of dogs to make them calmer....so the same effect is with humans that lose a part of their manhood. I am that anger that that poor dog who did become tamer and more docile is expressing. I represent it. I am a part of it. I did not become tamer or more docile. I came in touch with an anger that would blow this planet to parts if given the chance. I am wroth with anger. 99% of men that get raped and mutilated and nearly castrated become tame and docile like a good little doggy, I however became feral and wild. I became worse, a thing that is to be feared, much more so than had I been left alone. the world will know my wrath. so yes just because your son forgives, know he is acting no more forgiving than the poor dog who's balls you cut off, he acts docile and tame out of fear for if you cut off his balls he fears what else you may do to him. so it is with your forgiving sons. but I fear you not, and you will know my wrath.
maybe it wont be me personally that gets to you, and though i write it from comfort of the annouymous internet. I swear before I die, the world will hear my scream. Even the scream of all those that like me became feral and wild. FOr I am the
demon that was created in innocence of circumcision, I am now longer human. I am a demon in a huamn's body. I am a half
demon half human monster. I cast off my humanity, I embrace my darkness. I am your precious little baby boy. I am the demon you held in your arms. I stare back at you and reflect your dark heart. I am the eternal wrath and horror and I come for you all.
yet I still have a memory....for but 9-10 months in my mothers womb, and for maybe one or two hours....I was indeed a human. Foolish child, thought his birth was done when he breathed his first breathe of life and cried, o foolish child of two humans, ye did not want a human baby, thus my birth was not done until i met my dear friend Doctor Pedophile. In that moment my humanity died. I became the eternal anger and horror. I became a demon. I became a monster and I am your precious little boy, and I do come at you with the wrath of the souls of the damned. Dear mother, you were my world, and you shattered it. And now your precious little boy is all grown up and can speak unto himself. O wo is you mother for you are the object of my wrath. Wo is you dear mother, You are and always will be my world, and my world knows nothing but evil and now that evil is returned unto you. I return to you now mother with the wrath of hell, of anger, of evil, of demons, it is yours and I am yours and we shall be one.
I am your creation. I am your son. I am your flesh and blood. All that I am is because of you dear mother. All that i will ever be is because of you. I am the very thing your son is to scared to show you, for this is the darkness that lies at his heart.
All men who confront circumcision uncensored, will find this darkness. They will find me, Satan for I am pleased with your actions, and I do wait for them, and you have made them ripe for me. I Satan, did whisper into your ears, and you did give them to me and I have made them my own. Thus saith me, the Devil.
Signed,
your precious little baby boy.
I am one of those sons that some have claimed will forgive you because you "did what you thought was best" and because "you are my mother I will love you no matter what". Let me state this clearly....I DO NOT FORGIVE MY MOTHER. I HATE HER GUTS WITH A PASSION. and I know of others that think this way.
one point that isnt touched on about circumcision(rape and mutilation) topics, is the bond between mother and child. you
see that child is looking very much forward to seeing you. Like all mammals babies that are new born wish to snuggle up to mom and suck on her breasts. in the case of humans they also really want dad to deliever them as well and share a special bonding moment with the two parents before sucking on mom, burping, and passing out. It may not sound like much, but to the newborn infant they are indeed thinking "This is sweet, sweet, heaven on earth. I am in bliss."
this bond however gets shattered when we break from God's(nature's if you prefer), naturally designed system. instead the love the child feels for you because mother and newborn son naturally love each other, is broken. THe baby when mutilated and raped screams "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME????". the bond is then forever broken. you will never in a million years ever love and be loved back by your son the way God and nature intended. you are no longer the guardian angel, you are a guardian devil. You know longer hold your child as he thinks "This is sweet, sweet, heaven on earth. I am in bliss.". no you hold a child that screams up to heaven and cries to a just God "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME???". indeed if there be a just God that rules over all creation, your infant's screams do damn you.
the new bond is one out of a need for survival. you see despite the horrific injury of rape and mutilation....the new born still has a desire to survive. so survive the newborn will at least those that dont die during the raping and mutilating. the ones that survive this monsterous act, will go on to want to survive. they rather than naturally looking forward to mommy and daddy, they will learn to love them to survive. rather than seeing you as the ones that gave me life, i see you as the ones i used to survive. to that end I will coo and ahh with you. I will use you to learn to talk, to walk, and all the other things needed to live. rather than a beacon of love, you are a beacon of a neccessary evil needed to survive.
I do not think you taught me these things because you loved me after all i cried "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME???" to
which you shrugged your shoulders. Even worse, you whispered in my ear, "I do this because I love you" O foolish fool, I
hate to see your enemies. THe one you claim was born perfect and precious, you say that to me daily, yet I was only perfect after you paid a pedophile to have sex with me and scar my manhood for life. So no I stole these things so I could survive because I am a survivor and I will live on, and that sick freak that raped me, will get his due justice, and mother you deserve to rot with him. BUt I cannot be blamed, I never knew a guardian angel as spoken of in all these mother's day cards and songs, no, I only know my guardian devil.
to those sons that do forgive, I merely think they havent completely embraced the evil that was done to them. I Dont think they see it as getting raped and mutilated. I dont think they see it as total betrayal of the sacred bond between mother and child. I think they still see it as society sees it, a choice to be made by the parents. they dont think theyve been raped, they dont think their virginity was taken at a day old, they dont think their first sexual experience was that of a sick perverted baby and doctor bondage scene, but no they still see it innocently as a choice. no there was no choice nor was there ever....unless you consider this a choice "Ma'am and sir, may I take your baby and rape and mutilate him, later on get off on this experience because I am a pedophile? and afterwards Im going to sell his foreskin for a lot of profit too. Oh and Please stick around and buy some lovely anti-aging cream, It is made from your baby's blood, tears, and screams. You see it is a much better use of his forskin." if you consider that a choice, then its a choice. but instead we ask "Are you circumcusing your son?" see how much nicer that sounds? so these forgiving sons still call it circumcision, but I call it the work of a sick pedophile who enjoyed having sex with me as a new born. and I now know when asked by bishops was I abstaining from premarital sex and I said yes....I was lieing for I had already had sex once before a very long time ago.
so no I do not forgive, nor does she deserve it.
and now I know when I do watch porn, why i find bondage so erotic and hot....I am merely reenacting my infancy.
the ones in this thread that deserve it, are those that are truly repentent of it, they have been brought to tears with
Godly sorrow, they seek to change this barbaric act. they learned and are indeed wiser. to you I thank, and your stories have been heart wrenching.
know this...I am that anger that cries out against you for betraying your sons. Even those that are too docile to cry out in anger....For the same reason we cut the balls off of dogs to make them calmer....so the same effect is with humans that lose a part of their manhood. I am that anger that that poor dog who did become tamer and more docile is expressing. I represent it. I am a part of it. I did not become tamer or more docile. I came in touch with an anger that would blow this planet to parts if given the chance. I am wroth with anger. 99% of men that get raped and mutilated and nearly castrated become tame and docile like a good little doggy, I however became feral and wild. I became worse, a thing that is to be feared, much more so than had I been left alone. the world will know my wrath. so yes just because your son forgives, know he is acting no more forgiving than the poor dog who's balls you cut off, he acts docile and tame out of fear for if you cut off his balls he fears what else you may do to him. so it is with your forgiving sons. but I fear you not, and you will know my wrath.
maybe it wont be me personally that gets to you, and though i write it from comfort of the annouymous internet. I swear before I die, the world will hear my scream. Even the scream of all those that like me became feral and wild. FOr I am the
demon that was created in innocence of circumcision, I am now longer human. I am a demon in a huamn's body. I am a half
demon half human monster. I cast off my humanity, I embrace my darkness. I am your precious little baby boy. I am the demon you held in your arms. I stare back at you and reflect your dark heart. I am the eternal wrath and horror and I come for you all.
yet I still have a memory....for but 9-10 months in my mothers womb, and for maybe one or two hours....I was indeed a human. Foolish child, thought his birth was done when he breathed his first breathe of life and cried, o foolish child of two humans, ye did not want a human baby, thus my birth was not done until i met my dear friend Doctor Pedophile. In that moment my humanity died. I became the eternal anger and horror. I became a demon. I became a monster and I am your precious little boy, and I do come at you with the wrath of the souls of the damned. Dear mother, you were my world, and you shattered it. And now your precious little boy is all grown up and can speak unto himself. O wo is you mother for you are the object of my wrath. Wo is you dear mother, You are and always will be my world, and my world knows nothing but evil and now that evil is returned unto you. I return to you now mother with the wrath of hell, of anger, of evil, of demons, it is yours and I am yours and we shall be one.
I am your creation. I am your son. I am your flesh and blood. All that I am is because of you dear mother. All that i will ever be is because of you. I am the very thing your son is to scared to show you, for this is the darkness that lies at his heart.
All men who confront circumcision uncensored, will find this darkness. They will find me, Satan for I am pleased with your actions, and I do wait for them, and you have made them ripe for me. I Satan, did whisper into your ears, and you did give them to me and I have made them my own. Thus saith me, the Devil.
Signed,
your precious little baby boy.
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I don't know if I'm out of line here, but I think the above post is a bit inflammatory and should be removed. To me, this place is a thread where parents who regret circumcision can come and find some healing. They know better now and want to help campaign for no more circumcision for other children.
Above poster, I'm sorry they cut off bits of your penis when you were a baby. It sucks a lot and I couldn't be more against it. I didn't do it to my own son--he is intact.
But you're going to have to find some way to live with your injury. A lot of people have some bodily deformity. My mother, for instance, has use of only one leg. It is possible to live your life anyway.
I think your issues with your mother must be bigger than the circumcision thing. My husband was cut too but otherwise had a loving relationship with his mother and has forgiven her for having him cut. She did what she thought was best, and although he would prefer to have a foreskin, he has still been able to live his life.
There are moms on this thread who will have more children, and will keep those children intact. They can't think that their relationships with their cut sons are irreparably damaged. I just don't think that's true.
Above poster, I'm sorry they cut off bits of your penis when you were a baby. It sucks a lot and I couldn't be more against it. I didn't do it to my own son--he is intact.
But you're going to have to find some way to live with your injury. A lot of people have some bodily deformity. My mother, for instance, has use of only one leg. It is possible to live your life anyway.
I think your issues with your mother must be bigger than the circumcision thing. My husband was cut too but otherwise had a loving relationship with his mother and has forgiven her for having him cut. She did what she thought was best, and although he would prefer to have a foreskin, he has still been able to live his life.
There are moms on this thread who will have more children, and will keep those children intact. They can't think that their relationships with their cut sons are irreparably damaged. I just don't think that's true.
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I agree that it is rather harsh. I am a guy who has spent most of his life feeling really pissed that I was robbed of my foreskin. I think the difference between living with a deformity and a cut penis is that the former is inevitably due to either genetics or an accident. A circumcision is done with intent. I had a great relationship with my mother. I realize that she was the victim of bad advice, and without so much as access to a library had no way to counter that advice. I do feel disappointed and wish that she had stepped back and considered the plan objectively. Maybe asked some pointed questions. When one does that, then the notion of cutting bits off the genitalia of a newborn baby suddenly seems bizarre. I find it interesting how being circumcised affects some men and not others. I have two brothers. One could not care less, while the other is also quite upset at loosing his foreskin too. However, we all loved our mother dearly.
Another regretter here. I was 16 when my son was born and there was still that theory that it was cleaner and healthier going around. And my mom was a nurse and was adament he be circ'd because of that, what did I know so I did it. All of the men in mine and dh's family are circ'd also so I figured it couldn't be that bad.
You can't go back..... Only forward....... So when we know better ... We can do better ..... And you both are! Just be sure you follow proper intact care which is not taught to American medical doctors....... In fact most of them know practically nothing about the functions of natural foreskin. Never retract your son....... It is never necessary to pull the foreskin back to clean under it in children. In fact premature retraction disturbs and often tears the natural adhesions causing pain and sometimes infection which you don't want! Average age of natural retraction is age ten so no messing with the foreskin...... Only clean what is seen. Be sure to pass on proper intact care pointers to your relatives too. Good for you for acknowledging what is wrong with circumcising children!
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Hello,
Another man who grew up with the betrayal of genital mutilation.
I cut out my entire family and have no intention of ever rejoining. Genital cutting cultures are sexually violent and corrupt.
To prey upon children and babies is unforgivable.
For all of the regret mothers: If I were you I would beg my child for forgiveness every day and act to make the world a better place for them. You violated their most sensitive parts and betrayed their trust. Anything short of repairing the harm is unacceptable imo.
Your tears and fears won't heal the damage. Act. Call out everyone who pushed for this. The medical industry, family, neighbors, friends, religious leaders, politicians. They are the sexual predators of our society.
Genital mutilation is a form of genocide. It directly impacts the sexual future and well-being of an individual.
If you weren't strong enough to stand up for your offspring before it's not too late to do it now.
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Another man who grew up with the betrayal of genital mutilation.
I cut out my entire family and have no intention of ever rejoining. Genital cutting cultures are sexually violent and corrupt.
To prey upon children and babies is unforgivable.
For all of the regret mothers: If I were you I would beg my child for forgiveness every day and act to make the world a better place for them. You violated their most sensitive parts and betrayed their trust. Anything short of repairing the harm is unacceptable imo.
Your tears and fears won't heal the damage. Act. Call out everyone who pushed for this. The medical industry, family, neighbors, friends, religious leaders, politicians. They are the sexual predators of our society.
Genital mutilation is a form of genocide. It directly impacts the sexual future and well-being of an individual.
If you weren't strong enough to stand up for your offspring before it's not too late to do it now.
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