[DevaMajka]

Can symptoms still come and go during the first week? Or should they just gradually keep getting better?

 

[Bokonon]

Peepers got better, then worse, and then much better, which I've read is very common. Apparently as the allergens leave the system, the reactions are worse or something.

 

[DevaMajka]

Thanks! I was hoping this was the case. So I don't have to assume that every time his rash gets a little bit worse, that I'm eating something wrong. Yay!

 

[changingseasons]

Eh... I think that you might sometimes see an initial flare as the body kind of detoxes, but then it should continue to gradually get better if you have all the foods out.

imo, it shouldn't get better, worse, better, worse, etc. if you've gotten all the right foods out. Sorry.

 

[DevaMajka]

Ok, so an initial flare- that could still be ok. I could still be on the right track. As long as it doesn't get worse, I won't worry about it too much. I've only been on my current diet- very low sals- for a few days.

It has gotten better and worse, and I've tweaked my diet a lot. I'm now doing failsafe minus a lot. This just HAS to be it.

If it gets worse, and that means it IS something I'm eating, sigh. I don't know what to do. Make an appt for muscle testing I guess.

If there is only one symptom, does that say anything about how many sensitivities there are? ie, if his eczema is his only symptom, could he be sensitive to sals plus, say, dairy, or eggs, etc?

 

[mamafish9]

If it gets worse, post a list of what you ate in the prior 24 hours (your son seems to react in that timeframe). We'll help you guess what it was

... You're getting really close, mama - hang in there!

 

[DevaMajka]

I'm so happy- it's better today

Not completely gone, but so light that it's not noticable from a few feet away.
As long as it doesn't flare up again, I'll figure that I finally found a good ED! yay! It's basically the failsafe diet, plus carrots, bananas, and flax, minus gluten and dairy and lots of stuff I haven't trialed yet.

ds is eating bananas and rice.

If it worsens again today, I guess maybe I'll take out the non-failsafe foods.

Thanks for the support- it at least kept me from going to bed feeling totally hopeless.

 

[mamafish9]

Yay!! It's soooo nice to get to baseline - hopefully you'll be there in the next few days. Then you can start the two steps forward, one step back process of food trials

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[DevaMajka]

So it's a tiny bit worse. Still better than it has been in weeks, though. It's just a tiny change- not sure if that means there's something he's sensitive to or not.

Here's what I ate yesterday:
egg on rice bread
quinoa, maple syrup
rice, lentils, and beef with homemade chicken stock (this was my meal a couple times)
banana, flax
rice bread
brussels sprouts

day before yesterday:
rice, lentils, chicken, chicken stock (had this a few times)
very small amount of sweet potato- like 2 bites
egg on rice bread
banana, flax
carrot
1 tiny slice of kiwi
quinoa, maple syrup
brussels sprouts with lemon juice (which I later noticed has sulphites in it)

That's it- the only oil is canola, and the only seasonings are salt and white sugar. I've been putting canola oil on his rash, and giving him epsom salt baths with no soap.

I'm taking the calcium/magnesium supplements until I can get out to get some plain mag supps. I have a prenatal vitamin that has all the B's and molybdenum in it, but I've been waiting to try it- I'm pretty sure it has soy in it (at least it doesn't say it doesn't).

 

[mamafish9]

For sals, you might be seeing a slight delayed, slight reaction to the carrots, sulfites, and kiwi from two days ago. But I wouldn't read too much into very small changes right now. How is sleep going?

 

[DevaMajka]

The last night he did his hour long wake session

The night before, he didn't, and actually soothed himself back to sleep a couple times, without nursing.

It might be worth mentioning that his rash is on the front of his diaper area, and occasionally he's wet and I don't catch it immediately. So he's wet for maybe 15 minutes.
His nighttime diaper is staydry.
Changing immediately hasn't seemed to make any difference in his rash in the past, but perhaps his rash was so bad that the difference wouldn't have been very noticable, and now that it's much much better, we can tell the subtle differences.

 

[kjbrown92]

Did you have egg the day before too?
That's a big eczema trigger.

 

[mamafish9]

Egg could be an issue - but, it can also help with processing sals (high sulfur) - so I'd personally wait a few days to see if the rash subsides (while being really strict on sals) - then if not, try pulling eggs. Some people who can't do sals can't do high sulfur foods either, some really need high sulfur foods.

 

[DevaMajka]

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Originally Posted by kjbrown92 Did you have egg the day before too? That's a big eczema trigger.

The day before, I had rice bread with egg in it BUT I noticed his rash was worse before I even nursed him after eating it. So if it is eggs, there has to be something else too. Since it's better today than yesterday, hopefully that means that eggs aren't a problem. Man, I hope so. Eggs have been out for almost 3 weeks, I think, and his rash kept changing during that time.

I'll be strict with sals and see what happens. I really need to add my vitamins in too. I need to increase my calories too- I've kept track of a few days, and I'm kinda low, esp for bf'ing.

And I'm a doofus- I just realized I'd washed ds's diapers in Tide a couple times (I do this when they don't smell clean from the hypo-allergenic stuff).

I try to rinse well, but maybe it was still enough to bother him. Again, it didn't seem to make any difference when his rash was worse, but maybe it did and it just wasn't enough to tell.

 

[kjbrown92]

what's in the rice bread?

 

[DevaMajka]

I really wish I were better about this, and more patient. I keep adding stuff because I need more variety (or at least something other than meat). sigh. I feel less dedicated than others here seem

But I really really want to figure this out! My willpower just sucks sometimes.

Here are the ingredients for the rice bread:
Ingredients
Water, White Rice Flour, Whole Eggs, Tapioca Starch, Potato Starch, Cellulose, Sugar, Sunflower and/or Canola Oil, Yeast, Dextrose, Glucono Delta Lactone, Sodium Carboxy Methylcellulose, Salt, Pea Protein, Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Bicarbonate, Vitamin Blend(Thiamine, Vitamin B2, Niacin, Folic Acid, Iron), Sodium Stearayl Lactylate

Quote:

Kinnikinnick Products are produced in dedicated Gluten/Wheat/Nut free facilities that use Soy, Eggs and Sesame Seeds.

 

[Sandrine]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevaMajka I really wish I were better about this, and more patient. I keep adding stuff because I need more variety (or at least something other than meat). sigh. I feel less dedicated than others here seem But I really really want to figure this out! My willpower just sucks sometimes.

Don`t beat yourself up because you have a hard time. We all do, i`m sure. I know I did and still do. When I was nursing dd2, I had no prob with being df and cf for her but when I was nursing dd3, I had the hardest time being df. I often cheated. I feel quilty at times but I can't let that get me down. Now i'm really consistent with dd3 and because she's taking it soooo well, it makes it easier for me to help her out and give her safe foods.

We do what we can with what we have. Take a breath and start again.

((hugs))

 

[DevaMajka]

Thanks - you're right. It doesn't do any good to feel guilty- just vow to do better next time (that's my GD motto anyway

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I was just reading somewhere that body products etc might matter MORE than food, as far as sals. hmmm...I'm not using any sals stuff on ds, but I wonder if using sals stuff on me is causing a problem.

 

[mamafish9]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevaMajka I was just reading somewhere that body products etc might matter MORE than food, as far as sals. hmmm...I'm not using any sals stuff on ds, but I wonder if using sals stuff on me is causing a problem.

YES. Particularly lotion, because it stays on your body (vs. soap or something else that just gets washed off). Toothpaste too - it's always mint, or cinnamon, or something like that which is high sals (so rinse REALLY well).

Once you empty his sals bucket a little, he'll tolerate stuff better, but right now, chase any source you can.

What supps do you want to add back in - I can look at them for sals content if you like. I think getting supps in is really important on a restricted diet. And it can help with sals sensitivity. I find it hard to find what I need at the local hfs/grocery, so I order online from iherb - fast shipping, and really big selection.

 

[DevaMajka]

gah. I don't use lotion except face lotion, and it's loaded with aloe, plant oils, etc. And all my hair care stuff is "natural" because I can't use regular brands (they make my scalp itch). kinda a conundrum there. lol. I don't mind doing the baking soda and vinegar thing, but vinegar has sals, so...
And toothpaste-yep, what I'm using now is minty.

The vitamins I have are just regular old store brand prenatal vitamins. Nothing about "all natural" on them or anything. Is there any chance those are ok?
They have magnesium (but not much, I'll buy a plain mag supp), lots of B's, and molybdenum.

What do you think of this QUICK SALICYLATE CHECK?

I know it's not really related to sals sensitivity, but I thought it might be helpful info. They don't seem concerned at all about sals in foods, but are quite strict about sals in products. Though they seem to think that dyes etc aren't enough to matter.

The vitamins have HVP chelate in the medicinal ingredients.
non-medicinal ingredients are:
microcrystalline cellulose, coating (hypomellose, polyethylene glycol, titanium dioxide, allura red, polysorbate 80, brilliant blue), croscarmellose sodium, vegetable grade magnesium stearate

gah, that sounds appetizing